What is Hamas?

Marwa17

Junior Member
Something I came across online...Don't know if to take it seriously or what? I don't know if the pictures will come out but that's why there's all the space...it's not because there are a lot of word...

Let me know what you guys think...
What Is Hamas?

(pic) (don't know why they don't work)
Sheikh Ahmed Ismail Yassin Co-Founder Of Hamas

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Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi Is The Other Co-Founder

Hamas Is An Israeli Front

It's core leadership is directed by Shin Beth. It is financed by 'mysterious foreign entities'. In reality, the money comes from the American taxpayer, financing covert Intel operations through Israeli fronts in Jordan, Syria, and Iran.

Hamas Was Founded In 1987

Sheikh Yassin was the front man. Hamas began as a charitable organization called Da'wah. Hamas. It built an impressive infrastructure catering to the social, educational, religious and cultural needs of the Palestinian people, most of them refugees living in poverty.

In the book “Devil’s Game", Dreyfuss reveals how the U.S. looked the other way when Israel’s secret service supported the creation of Hamas.

A n Old Jewish Technique

Zionists live by intrigue, and directing the opposition is one of their favorite tactics. They provide a service that someone want, and that opens the door. In this instance, Hamas funded hospitals, and medical services.

Palestinians quickly accepted Hamas, and never questioned where they got the money.

Hamas Provides The Stage For The 'Play Of Terror'

Israel couldn't slaughter these Arabs without a pretense of terror. Hamas bombs that go off in Israeli restaurants mainly kill immigrants, foreign workers, and Israeli Arabs, but the Israelis scream to the world - "Hamas is killing Jews".


An Arab restaurant, in Tel Aviv, is hit by a sophisticated bomb. Even though 90% of the injuries are non Jewish, the world is flooded with images of poor Jews being slaughtered by crazed Muslims.

Where Does Hamas Get It's Foot Soldiers?

IDF snipers often target a potential member's siblings. The IDF often kills an entire family over time, leaving the eldest. Hamas will approach the lone survivor with promises of revenge.

What Is The Point To It

The un-official CIA stand is that Israel's support for Hamas is a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative.

The Absurdity of It All

In July of 2006, the Hamas militants that kidnapped the Israeli soldier, hold a press conference in the middle of Gaza. If they were real, the Shin Beth, or Yamas (IDF undercover teams) would shoot them in a heartbeat.

Yamas:

These are counter intelligence operatives that live among the Palestinians.

"Make War By Way Of Deception"

Israel doesn't fight it's enemies, it gets it's enemies to fight each other. It had two oil rich neighbors, Iran and Iraq, who had enough money to buy fifty Russian nukes, and turn Israel into a parking lot, so Israel instigated the Iran- Iraq war. Afterwards Israel used Bush Sr with Desert Storm, and Bush Jr with Iraq 2003, to finish Iraq off.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Wa alaykum salam,

Well, I have read that they were funded by Mossad in order to Oppose the PLO. This is widely known.

A lot of my Palestinian friends actually agree to that and say its possible, even though they vote for it now.

Other things in that article I do not know, I am not agreeing with it, just saying what I know.

A few months ago, the Hamas leadership met with Putin, when journalist asked them why they dealt with Russia, when it kills thousands of Muslims in Chechnya, they said it was an "internal Russian matter". :astag:

Of course, they are miles better then those disbelieving HizbShaytan in Lebanon. Dont think so? If Muslims have any shame and honour they would agree. On Youtube there are plenty of videos of the Shiite scholars making open statements of disbelief. The craziest one was where the cleric said that Prophet Abraham was saved from the fire because he shouted ya Hussein! Astaghfirullah. . .

May Allah help the Muslims. May we all return to the Book of Allah and Sunnah of his messenger. This is the only way to success.

wasalam.
 

Marwa17

Junior Member
Salam brother,
lol...ya i've seen those videos...lol...oh well...allah guide them...
for school, i'm doing a presentation/project thing on hamas...i was wondering like how would you explain suicide bombers?...i know it's going to come up b/c whenever like we "debate" in class about that kind of stuff in the past it always comes up...yes isreal has killed hundreds and thousands of palestinians...yes this is a war zone and those who live in israel should consider it as such...but what else can one really say to justify it?...Actually, there haven't been in suicide bombers in a while...but still...first off, is it haram to be a suicide bomber? The thing about that Russian statement...I seriously think Hamas was a much better organization when yassin was alive it seems that now they are losing their value in my eyes...sadly...there's too much stuff that's going on right now for no reason...everyone needs to take a deep breath and count to ten and all that and think with an open mind...(going off topic here...lol) but the thing that started the current conflict with hamas and fatah it was the three teenage boys that died...hamas never took responsibility...for all anyone knows israel could have done it...granted they have the capabilities...it's wrong what's going on...that's all i can really say...why is it that us muslims have to ruin everything for ourselves?....allah help us help ourselves....
Anyways, something that really made me feel like we were actually doing something was this article i read while doing my research...(i don't have it on me right now but if anyone wants to read it i'll get it for them inshallah)...here it is (in my own words) (someone may have already posted it):
In Beit Hanoun, Israeli Soldiers surrounded this mosque, which was actually considered very ancient and historic. There were about fifty or so men inside...israel, duh, claimed they were militants...Anyways, israel surrounded them and would not let them out.
The women in this city heard about this...and one of the ladies that holds a position in hamas got about 2000 women together and they went to protest and walked down to the masjid...israel was helpless to stop them because there were so many...but of course they did try to scare them by shooting (2 people died and like a bunch were injured...allah guide them to jennah) of course israel claimed that they had seen some militant among the women...lol...allah curse them...
so, these women got to the masjid and surrounded it...they entered the mosque and I think they did the smartest thing a muslim has done in quite a while...they had each worn like two hijabs and two abayas...tehy gave one to every man in the masjid...the men dressed like women and escaped into the crowd of protestors...MASHALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!....and Israel was like really confused how they "got away"...lol...like when i heard this story it just idk, it sent shivers down my back to be honest...how these women had the will to keep on going and two of them were killed and stuff...allah gave them so much strength in order to be able to do this...This story it just also sent this message in a way...anyone can help...it's the little things that matter...FIFTY MEN could have been killed...but these women SAVED them...ALHAMDULILLAH...and they did it in such a smart way that israel never saw it coming...for too long we've been giving up...saying it's a "lost cause"...at least that's what i've been hearing lately from everyone...but this shows that the people themselves who are being oppressed have not given up...so how can WE?...we're not even there...we cannot possibly imagine what they gone through and they still continue to fight for it...it's not just the palestinian land...it's muslim land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
just my own two cents...or rant...lol...
 

Paki Idol

Defender of Islam
:salam2:
God knows best.Hammas and Al Fatah organizations have agreed for a truce. Hammas is actually supported by Anti American Government's.What I think is that Hammas desires to free Palestine from clutches of Israel while Al Fatah is trying to win support from Western countries in order to defeat Hammas.It is true that some of us seek help from the West while we show ourselves as true Muslims.This is indeed, wrong.It's not about the help.It's about how one actually utilise it and what are the aims?Certainly, Al Fatah's aims clash with Hammas.What Israel wants is to implement the policy of "Divide and Rule". About Hizbullah, all I know is that they are not terrorists.Israel wants to spread enmity among Muslims and Christians in Lebanon and therefore are exploiting some elements to acheive her aims.It's time when we have to realise how Israel comes up with it's tactics in order to crush Islamic resistance groups.Israel was defeated in July war against Lebanon.Thus, Israel seems determined to destroy the unity by sowing seeds of enmity and hatred among Anti Israelies!
 

Noor to shine

Junior Member
:salam2: brother and sister:
Then you think that Israiel pay for Hamas so that Hamas make Jihad against them ? call for Islam ? and build an islamic society in Palastine ...feed the hungry and support the orphans and the widows........You think that Israiel do all this wonderful things ? and support Hamas who fight them instead of the PLO who made peace with them ??I wonder from where did you get such information?:confused: :confused: :confused:
With regards
 

Paki Idol

Defender of Islam
:wasalam:
Hammas certainly is not a terrorist organization nor is Al Fatah! We need to read their history including their services and sacrifices for Islam and Palestine! May Allah grant victory to Palestinians.Basically, Hammas and Al Fatah have the same aim but there comes the Israeli propganda which makes brother an enemy of bother.We have to stand united!
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum,

Suicide bombing is haram,

Also, peolpe need to realise things are not as clear as black and white.

These people must return back to the Quran and Sunnah, you'll be suprised to hear that the Palestinian authority had agreed with the Israelis to open a Palestinian run Casino a few years ago in Palestine.

"I hate it. It's the most shameful act that the economic counselors of the Palestinian Authority did. Right across from a refugee camp, no less. We have no hospitals, no sewage, sick children, a whole sick society. But, oh, we have gambling. Great." - Suha Arafat.

People must look at Islamic Solution to this. Just because one organisation or people claim they are Islamic, does not make what they do justified, even if they are oppressed. And the Palestinians, even though they are going through a very difficult time are not the only Muslims who have been oppressed by the disbelievers. In our history we have been constantly challenged, even at the time of the Sahaba and the Mushrikeen. -

Either people act by their emotions and get sucked into ignorant rhetoric OR they stick to the Quran and Sunnah and get themselves out of this mess. -

And I know Israel and the racist ideology it is based on is Evil, but it is not the main factor in the Palestinian's problems. No matter what aljazeera or some ignorant person in the street tells you. Personally, I have been to Palestinian refugee camps, I know the problems they suffer. A lot of it is our own fault. Firstly, many do not even practise Islam properly, and also the Arabs themselves are content simply blaming Israel. - It is a good way of keeping themselves out of the limelight. For example, in Lebanon, the Palestinians are stuck in refugee camps for past 50 years and they have no rights, they can not get jobs, do not have access to clean water, do not have education or even medical services. Likewise the problem in Syria and infact EVERY Arab country except Jordan. - :( May Allah help us. - The root cause is our lack of Islam. Simply having a Muslim name is not enough, infact even praying is not enough if we do not have correct Aqeedah and belief. - In many of our countries, from Morocco, Syria, Egypt through to India our Muslims are not following Islam according to the original teachings. You will find that they go to graves and ask the dead for help, or they make dua to the various Saints and "Awliya". They commit Shirk and do Bidah.

In order to rid are selves of these problems we must return to the book of Allah and the sunnah of his messenger :saw:. This is the only way. And this is what Allah and his beloved Messenger :saw: has commanded us.

This advice will always be the same. Of course, we protect our Muslim brothers and sisters. Yes we DO fight when we have to, in order to safeguard our honour, our Deen and our lands. But, we must realise the underlying success will only be once we have a sound Islamic base.

I recommend you read the following articles and remember that Allah's Promise to the Muslims is True. We will succeed, there is no doubt about that.

“And verily Allaah will make those who aid His Cause victorious, for verily He is All-Powerful and Mighty. (They are) those who, when given power in the land, establish the prayer, pay zakaah, command what is good, and forbid what is evil, and with Allaah is the end result of all affairs.” [Surah Al-Hajj: 41]

Ummah in Conflict

The Current State of the Muslim World

Importance of Tawheed in Reviving the Ummah

Why Muslims are Weak Today

Shaikh Rabee' bin Haadee's Advice to the Ummah and the Palestinians

The Confusion on What is Suicide and Who May Be Targeted in War
 

Paki Idol

Defender of Islam
I agree with brother Mabsoot! It is our problem that we do not follow the teachings of Islam.We regard ourselves as Muslims even though some of us do not pay Zakah, pray or even thank Allah with sincerity!How can we succeed if it goes on being like this?We would have to suffer more and be humialiated to a lage extent as we are being humialiated today! Allah said that He brings another Nation to overcome us when we deny His favours and forget His message.Our only Path to success is following the true teachings of Islam! May Allah have His Mercy on Ummah of Prophet Muhammad, Ameen!
 

Noor to shine

Junior Member
:salam2: brothers
I agree with both of you ...our problem is that we are not following the correct path that Allah swt taught us(as a matter of fact it is the propblem of the whole humanity who is going astray) ..........but to be fair _as far as I know_ Hamas is an islamic organization who try to practise Quran and Sunna and reform societies in Palastine in accordance with islamic teachings ....and as far as I know they succeeded on a larg scale and gain the trust of people in Palastine .And we should remember their program and will to free the land of Palasine as a whole and make Islamic government. Their Leaders were killed by Israiel ....most of them are imprisoned by the israieli auothority . Hamas is not the only islamic organization in Palastine but the most influent one .

<<These people must return back to the Quran and Sunnah, you'll be suprised to hear that the Palestinian authority had agreed with the Israelis to open a Palestinian run Casino a few years ago in Palestine.>>

That was when the goverment was from the PLO not Hamas (as a matter of fact this is the cause of conflict between hamas and PLO ; Hamas has an Islamic program while PLO has oppose it). And if you look to our islamic countries you find all kind of unislamic Casinos, and some places one feel shame to speak about. We muslems are not goverend by Islam .....If the leaders are ignorant of the teaching of Islam and was raised by unislamic education how do you expect to see Islam ruling.

I think that we who have faith in Allah swt and his prophet and follow the Sunna of the prophet salla Allah alihi wa sallam should be united since all enemies of Islam is united to finish Islam (I know they can`t) but Allah said in Quran:

3:103 And hold fast, all together, unto the bond with God, and do not draw apart from one another. And remember the blessings which God has bestowed upon you: how, when you were enemies, He brought your hearts together, so that through His blessing you became brethren; and [how, when] you were on the brink of a fiery abyss. [79] He saved you from it. In this way God makes clear His messages unto you, so that you might find guidance,

وَاعْتَصِمُواْ بِحَبْلِ اللّهِ جَمِيعًا وَلاَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَاذْكُرُواْ نِعْمَةَ اللّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذْ كُنتُمْ أَعْدَاء فَأَلَّفَ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِكُمْ فَأَصْبَحْتُم بِنِعْمَتِهِ إِخْوَانًا وَكُنتُمْ عَلَىَ شَفَا حُفْرَةٍ مِّنَ النَّارِ فَأَنقَذَكُم مِّنْهَا كَذَلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللّهُ لَكُمْ آيَاتِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَهْتَدُونَ (3:103)


With regards
 

talibulislam

Junior Member
well hammas is palestinian elected organization

once u get elected by the vote bank mean no matter how good or bad u r,wahts your history people likes u,for example bush,he is consider dumb,killed many on his personal dumb vision he see by himself but he is after all elected president so why those who like freedom & democracy hates to see when palestinian elect hamas through votes,recently they have clash with plo,prime minister abbas consider modrater or liberal by who?
by west, so label by west as great primeminster mean he is really a great,just for kind information isreal recently lift ban on eygpt to bring some big supply of arms to plo so they can win against hammas,i mean things r very clear.
as for concerning by there suicide bombs or concerning its right or wrong.
just give us better idea how palestinian would suppose to react against the most leathel 5largest army in the world?
do they need to do dawah work or open up the dawah boths for jews?
if we want them to follow quran & sunnah while sitting in our houses,enjoying the best food in front of tv.
prophet muhammd saw him self expeled jews from madina not respecting the aggrement,so wahts there limits to follow quran & sunnah after seeing there loves one getting killed in front of them like nothing?jazakallah khair
 

Noor to shine

Junior Member
:salam2: brother
I agree brother ....They have no other way to face the military force of the Jews ....all the arbs and muslems left them .....no help but from Allah(AlhamduliAllah) ....we who are safe and enjoying our life can`t judge the situation for those under horrible circumstances .....They don`t consider the bombing : sucide they think it is their only way for Jihad ......I am not a scholar in this respect but I think we should help all our oppressed brothers at least by Duaa.
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marzuki mohamed

Junior Member
:salam2: all :shake:

"...They have no other way to face the military force of the Jews ....all the arbs and muslems left them .....no help but from Allah(AlhamduliAllah) ....we who are safe and enjoying our life can`t judge the situation for those under horrible circumstances .....They don`t consider the bombing : sucide they think it is their only way for Jihad ......I am not a scholar in this respect but I think we should help all our oppressed brothers at least by Duaa..."


=i'll agree with bro Talibulislam & bro Noor To Shine on this issues.

as for the suicide bomber,= you can find it in memri tv.com there was a few of sholar fatwa video there including Dr Sheikh Al Qardawi from Egypt.

=i'll agreed with bro mabsoot statement which is for me -The correct Answer for current Muslim conflict country Palestinian-Bosnia-Kashmir-Afganistan-Chehnya:including all muslim ummah Today:

..."The root cause is our lack of Islam. Simply having a Muslim name is not enough, infact even praying is not enough if we do not have correct Aqeedah and belief. - In many of our countries, from Morocco, Syria, Egypt through to India our Muslims are not following Islam according to the original teachings. You will find that they go to graves and ask the dead for help, or they make dua to the various Saints and "Awliya". They commit Shirk and do Bidah.

In order to rid are selves of these problems we must return to the book of Allah and the sunnah of his messenger . This is the only way. And this is what Allah and his beloved Messenger has commanded us...."


Thanks bro MARWA17 for this threads!:ma:


wasalam.
 

Imad

Junior Member
Assalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wbaraktuh,

First of all dear brothers and sisters killing yourself is not allowed in islam. Allah says: " And don't kill yourselfes". also many scholars have spoken about the prohibition of blowing yourself up, like what some palestinians do. And dear brothers and sisters keep in mind that blowing yourself up and killing some jews gives the opportunity for the jews to kill more palestines. An example they kill 30 jews and the jews enter Gaza and kill more than 100 palestines. Please don't think in one direction and think also about the consequences.

I know i 'am not a alim ( scholar) but what i have said is based upon their fatwa's . If you want to read some fatwa's of this ulema i will provide you insha Allah with it.

And Allah knows best

Wassalmoelaikoem warahmatullahi wabaraktuh,

Imad
 

marzuki mohamed

Junior Member
bro mabsoot

Wa alaykum salam,

A few months ago, the Hamas leadership met with Putin, when journalist asked them why they dealt with Russia, when it kills thousands of Muslims in Chechnya, they said it was an "internal Russian matter". :astag:

dear bro mabsoot,

the correct answer to above statement as per below.

interview by Editor-in-chief of Kudusyolu (Quds Way) Mohammad Jihad Saatcıoglu, visited Hamas Political Bureau Leader Khaled Mashal at his home!

source:kavkaz centre today!

“Chechen people is our honour”

Kudusyolu: Especially our Chechen brothers holding the first place, some circles felt indisposed about your meeting with Russia at first. Necessary declarations have been made, of course, we have also tried to pull our weight. But what you will say is really important for our Chechen brothers at this point…

Khaled Mashal: You see the intricate issues which have become a bobble in the world. As Muslims, we have to understand each other’s circumstances. Especially, under the circumstances that we have been under siege we have to develop some relations with all the world’s countries. It is needless to say that it does not mean that we adopt the policies of the countries we have relation with. We may be allies with these countries at some points as well as being opposed to them at others.

We behave openly to any kind of aids. We are trying to obtain the support of the whole World for the Palestine ideal. Our aim is to break the influence of international Zionism on us as much as we can do. Russia is a powerful country in th region and it has a relation with the Palestine issue. Naturally we had to visit them too.

This visit does not mean that we are against the ideal of the Chechen people or that we have forgotten our brothers. The Chechen people is a Muslim people, we appreciat the Chechen people and see them as our honour. We do not ignore the ideal of the Chechen people! We are on the side of all Muslims’ issues. However we have to do our best in order to take support in the internetional arena against the tyranny we meet in the Palestinian lands.


Kudusyolu: Finally what are your advice and wishes to the Turkish people and especially to the young?

Khaled Mashal: I would like to focus especially on the point of the young. First of all, all the young together with the people should develop their sensitivity. The young should give importance to Quds, to the first Kıblah of Muslims, to the lands of Miraj. Tukish people are the part of the Islam people. These people have a direct relation with the Palestine ideal. At this point, the young can arrange press statements, panels, conferences; they can strike into the Palestine ideal by many means. Scholars and thinkers have to express their sensitivity at this point.

The young should follow the Palestine ideal process carefully, watch the news, learn about the details, read books and magazines on the issue, see what the Palestinian people suffer under the Israel occupation. They must study on how the Zionist project will affect the future of the region, how Israel threatens the Islam people’s future. The culture, consciousness and feelings at this point are very important. Not only a feeling but also knowledge-based consciousness should be created. The young should consider these studies at the dynamic ages when their minds are open.


wasalam.
 

marzuki mohamed

Junior Member
bro Imad

:salam2: bro Imad,


So in this situation or cases what do you think the best that palestinian people should do right now?

just waiting for us here in this TTI forum to give a hand to them?? when is thats going to happen ??

plus this palestinian people was in a terible situation same like our bro in chechnya-somalia-afghanistan-kashmir to name a few.


Plus the only resistance help that they received is from shiite side which in this case is hizbollah.And Iran this is the only country that voice it out loud againts any issues involving palestine (even if they just used them or not we leave it to Allah to judge).

we Support Hezbollah.. NOT Shia/shiite.

we support Saddam .. NOT his Bath party.

we support Anuar Saddat... NOT his Nationalist.

we support palestine people all party Fatah or hamas etc.. NOT Israel.

we support U.S technology (science/invention/charity organisation<UNHCR eg>good and kindness U.S.people but NOT U.S global policies on muslim world and other poor country.


Thanks agains bro imad for sharing the info.apreciated.


wasalam.

just a thread for positive discussion and exchange opinion...
 

dcsliva_27

New Member
I never agree with Israel taking Palestinian land especially by force. Its like Comanche indians telling me that they are taking my land away from me because they said it was thiers many years ago and I would resist it.
 

Noor to shine

Junior Member
:salam2:
I think the only way for muslems to rise again and face the horrible circumstances they are facing is to be united again by love of Allah swt and his prophet salla Allah alaihi wa sallam and follow his staight path with sincerity. First our hearts should be united and try to understand each other and correct each other in best manner.
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
Well, I have read that they were funded by Mossad in order to Oppose the PLO. This is widely known.

Salaam alaykum sisters and brothers;

I can see you have some strange opinions about Hamas... "funded by Mossad in order to opposite the PLO"??? It would be interesting to know the source of this kind of information too. For me it seems that both USA and the Zionist state called Israel fund Fatah (or its Abbas-Dahlan wing) to fight against Hamas and its supporters. For example by this way:

United States to send $86.4 million in aid to Palestinian President
Date: 05 / 01 / 2007 Time: 12:00

Bethlehem - Ma'an - While the United States had frozen Palestinian aides and imposed a siege on the Palestinian government for more than 9 months, American documents showed on Friday that president George Bush's administration will send $86.4 million in aid for the Abbas-affiliated security forces.

Or like this:

Israel to transfer $100 million of withheld tax revenue
Date: 17 / 01 / 2007 Time: 23:20

Bethlehem - Ma'an - A high-ranking Palestinian source told Ma'an on Wednesday that Israel would transfer $100 million of withheld Palestinian Authority taxation revenue imminently. According to reports, this money has now been transferred. Source: http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=18705

This $100 million is only part of total of those $660 million of tax moneys what Israel has stolen from Palestine during 2006.

sister Harb
 
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