WIKILEAKS...

[fatma_said]

Assalam alaikum sister fatma_said,

There are many things on Israel. There are documents revealed that show that Israel has been pushing the USA to start a war with Iran. That makes Israel look very bad.
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Walykum salam brother

thats actually common knowledge and Israel pushes america to do that openly

How is Wikileaks supposed to publish information on the flotilla attacks if no one from the Israeli government or Israeli Army releases secret documents to them?
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How could you verify that brother, don't you know that America and Israel have that 'special relationship' so they must have confided in America and gotten support for many of their actions from America

The flotilla attacks occurred between Israel and a Turkish ship. A lot of the revealed documents came from an American soldier that was not happy with they were doing in Iraq. He gave about 250,000 secret documents (cables) to Wikileaks. One of the first ones that Wikileaks confirmed to be authentic and released to the world was a document showing that more than 50,000 civilians were murdered in Iraq and kept unreported. This video was also released:
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Isn't the main conflict in the middle east between Israel and Palestine, the US still interferes in this case, what would stop America from involving itself in all of the affairs of Israel? After all isn't it investing billions of dollars into this country?

i will continue to reiterate my previous statement UNTIL i see some actual information exposing the 'special relationship' in detail for all the world to see

Also ponder on this .. America shares its intelligence with Israel wouldn't it be possible for Israel to have helped a supposed lone solider (manning) download more that 250,000 cables without getting detected

everyone that has power has an agenda, don't underestimate anyone

 

[dna1987]

^ Assalam alaikum,

Even if that is true, and it could be very likely that false cables are deliberately released to Wikileaks, that does not mean that there is ANYTHING wrong with Wikileaks itself. There isn't.

They are a group of journalists that reveal information that they've received. Wait, so what did Israel help Manning download? I thought you were saying the problem was that no information is released against Israel so far about the flotilla attacks.

To date, they have revealed many information and videos about the murders of innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, the paranoid African ex-presients (e.g., Mbeki of South Africa) and other imperialist American diplomats, and drugged-up, sex-addicted Arab royalty. Wikileaks is exposing their unjustified privilege and power. But none of that matters until they release documents showing Israel in a negative light? (And in my opinion, they already have - the only thing is, most of us already know how bad Israel is)...

And the conflicts in the Middle East between Iraq and the USA, and Afghanistan in the USA are bigger than Israel and Palestine. Although, the Israel and Palestine issue has been going for longer, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has left over a million people dead (two million Muslims minimum) in both countries. Both countries are in ruins, and hundreds of billions of dollars of their resources are being stolen everyday. The USA does not like governments in the Muslim countries that do not listen to them.

Assalam alaikum.

EDIT: Example of recent Wikileaks documents:
Burma's Nuclear Ambitions exposed
http://www.news.com.au/world/burmas-nuclear-plans-exposed-by-wikileaks/story-e6frfkyi-1225969266597

Croatian Police Issue Arrest-Warrant for Ex-Prime Minister for Crimes:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/10/ap/world/main7136312.shtml

Shell (the petrol company) has infiltrated the Nigerian government
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/08/wikileaks-cables-shell-nigeria-spying

Those are just three examples. Alhamdullilah, with three positive reactions. Justice will be served inshAllah. The Muslims in Nigeria should try their best to not allow foreign non-Muslim companies use their government to take their natural resources away. ("Give the people in power 20% of the profit, take 80% outside Nigeria to sell, and the people of Nigeria get zero").

And there was a protest in Brisbane today to bring Julian Assange back to Australia safely.

 

[h4mza]

Don't forget everyone about 'Iraq War Abuse'. The Wikileaks founder has posted some of the pictures on his facebook. My net is quite slow at the moment so can't save all these, wish i could.

WARNING (Graphic content)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Julian-Assange/339976537931?v=photos

 

[fatma_said]

walyum salam

i agree suggesting Israel helping manning may just be a theory but how do you explain someone being able to download so much without being detected. the only country not being affected by these wikileaks are Israel

Israel seems actually pretty happy about the leaks, and knowing the way Israel works it always benefits from situations such as these to expand their settlements and wreak more havoc .for eg, just before obama was inaugurated didn't Israel use that distraction to bomb Palestinians

Read these article
Unexpectedly, Israel Welcomes WikiLeaks Revelations
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=53731
Netanyahu: WikiLeaks revelations were good for Israel
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/219465-Netanyahu-WikiLeaks-revelations-were-good-for-Israel

 

[arzafar]

^^^ sister that doesnt prove anything. Meaning it neither proves
that wikileaks works for israel
nor that it doesnt work for israel

anyhow, the opening poster got her answer so i think.

 

[abu'muhammad]

yes i agree with you. this conspiracy theory and most others are false.
Additionally, the incident proves that governments are still the most powerful institutions in the world. i.e. banks don't own governments or similar theories.
eg. White House has forced VISA to suspend payments to wikileaks.

That is !Those theories come into picture as so many heads involve over one investigation.yes banks don’t have power but rather align their working with the so-called govt.Their presence is felt as during economic crisis which makes them look that important, driving force or so on, or as been percepted.