Chess

Steve940

Junior Member
:salam2:

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I was looking around Islam Q&A and came across this. This is surprising news to me and something that I don't think is well known. Masha'Allah anyone that plays chess should have a look at this.



Question:
I wana ask if chess(the type played now a days)is allowed in islam or not?

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

“When chess distracts us from what we are obliged to do both inwardly and outwardly, it is haraam according to the consensus of the scholars – such as when it distracts from an obligatory duty such as prayer or anything that is necessary in the interests of oneself or one’s family, or enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, or upholding ties of kinship or honouring one’s parents, or any obligations connected to positions of authority or leadership, etc. In this case it is haraam according to the consensus of the scholars. Similarly, if it involves anything that is haraam such as telling lies, swearing false oaths, cheating, wrongdoing or helping in wrongdoing, or other forbidden things, then it is haraam according to the consensus of the Muslims.” (Adapted from Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 32/218, 240).

But if it does not distract us from our obligations or involve anything that is haraam, then there is a difference of scholarly opinion concerning the ruling. The majority of scholars (Abu Haneefah, Maalik, Ahmad and some of the companions of al-Shaafa’i) said that it is also haraam, basing that view on the evidence of the Book of Allaah and the opinions of the Sahaabah.

The evidence of the Qur’aan is the words (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab [stone altars set up for sacrifices to idols etc], and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.

Shaytaan (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from As-Salaah (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?”

[al-Maa’idah 5:90-91]

Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “This aayah indicates that it is haraam to play dice or chess, whether that involves gambling or not, because when Allaah forbade alcohol He explained the reason for that, which is ‘Shaytaan (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from As-Salaah (the prayer).’ So every kind of game in which a little leads to a lot and stirs up enmity and hatred between those who are devoted to it and prevents them from remembering Allaah and praying, is like drinking alcohol, which implies that it must be haraam like alcohol.” (al-Jaami’ li Ahkaam al-Qur’aan, 6/291).

With regard to the views of the Sahaabah:

It was narrated that ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) passed by some people who were playing chess. He said, “What are these images, to which you are devoted? [cf. al-Anbiya’ 21:52]” Imaam Ahmad said: “The soundest comment on chess what that which was said by ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him).”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) was asked about chess and he said, “It is worse than dice.”

“Dice” refers to what is used nowadays for playing backgammon, which is played on a special table. It was narrated in the ahaadeeth that it is haraam.

Abu Dawood (4938) narrated from Abu Moosa al-Ash’ari that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever plays dice has disobeyed Allaah and His Messenger.” (Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 4129)

Muslim (2260) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever plays dice is like one who has dipped his hand in the flesh and blood of a pig.” Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “This hadeeth is quoted as evidence by al-Shaafa’i and the majority of scholars to prove that playing dice is haraam. The phrase ‘dipped his hand in the flesh and blood of a pig’ refers to eating it, and this simile is used to show that this is haraam because it is haraam to eat that.”

What some of the scholars have said about the prohibition of chess:

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Chess is like dice in that it is forbidden.” (al-Mughni, 14/155),

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The evil consequences of chess are greater than the evil consequences of dice. Everything that points to the prohibition of dice points to the prohibition of chess even more so… This is the view of Maalik and his companions, of Abu Haneefah and his companions, of Ahmad and his companions, and the view of the majority of the Taabi’een… It is not known that any of the Sahaabah permitted it or played it. Allaah protected them from that. Everything that is attributed to any of them and says that he played it – such as Abu Hurayrah – is a fabrication and lie against the Sahaabah and is rejected by anyone who knows how the Sahaabah really were and by anyone who has sufficient knowledge to examine the reports critically. How could the best generation and the best of mankind after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) permit playing something that prevents people from remembering Allaah and from praying, and is worse in this regard than alcohol when the player gets immersed in it, as we see in real life? How could the Lawgiver forbid dice but permit chess, which is many times worse?…” (al-Furoosiyah, 303, 305, 311).

Al-Dhahabi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “With regard to chess, most of the scholars say that it is haraam to play it, whether that is for money or not. If it is played for money then it is indisputably gambling. Even if it is not played for money it is still gambling and haraam, according to most of the scholars… al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about playing chess, is it forbidden or permissible? He (may Allaah have mercy on him) replied that if it makes a person miss praying on time or he plays for money, then it is haraam, otherwise it is makrooh according to al-Shaafa’i and haraam according to others…” (al-Kabaa’ir, 89-90).

For more information see Tahreem al-Nard wa’l-Shatranj wa’l-Malaahi by al-Aajurri, ed. By Muhammad Sa’eed Idrees.

And Allaah knows best. We ask Allaah to help us to do that which He loves and which pleases Him, and to help us to obey Him.

May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad.

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dna1987

Muslim Guy
I was the NZ Under 14 champ at chess (in 2001/2002). I don't think there is any gambling involved; you win depending on how much you've practiced - one wrong move, and you've lost.

And for not praying? 4 hour matches - plenty of time to pray. :S Anyone ever played in a tournament? It's like when I played in football (soccer) and tennis tournaments, except it's much easier to pray when playing the first of three I just mentioned. Plus, it helps in improving spatial skills and memory. (My opinion).
Salam alaikum.
 

Steve940

Junior Member
I feel the same way I don't personally see the harm in it but I obviously didn't make this up, got it off of Islam Q&A, just thought I'd share. I am sorry to hear this as I do enjoy playing chess and windows vista came with a nice computer chess game that I like to play so ahh sadly I don't play it anymore. If anyone else has more information on this I'd like to hear it

Asalamu alaikum
 
Asalaamalikum,

I've never heard of this opinion before. I'm like the biggest chess freak, I don't gamble I just play it for fun. In my opinion, I think chess helps you with patience, strategizing. It's civlized war. It's a test of strenght. Many different things. Calculations. Calculation of the board. Seeing the geometry that exists on the board and the mathematics within the board and pieces itself. The relationship between the pieces and the many other things.

I've always loved chess. It's the best of all board games. It's the royalty. Checkers doesn't even compare. Monoply is not even in it's league. Backgammon is cool but doesn't cut it. It's a brilliant game and some of the stories about chess makes it even more of a brilliant game.

As long as you don't forget your prayers or not listen to your folks (just like anything else), in my humble opinion I don't see anything haram in it.
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
:salam2: Brothers,

The Shaikh did say that there is a difference in opinion.

Make sure there is no gambling or distraction from performing prayers in time.

Question: Is it permissible to play chess?

Answered by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah on Islamtoday website

Playing chess for money is unlawful. If it is played merely for recreation, then we cannot say it is unlawful. It is wrong to try to compare chess with intoxicants and gambling by arguing that chess, like those vices, is "an abomination of Satan’s handiwork", a cause for hatred and dispute, and a hindrance from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer.

Allah says, regarding alcohol and gambling:

"O you who believe, indeed intoxicants, gambling, stone alters, and divination are abominations of Satan's handiwork, so avoid them that you may be successful. Satan only wants to cause between you animosity and hatred through intoxicants and gambling and to avert you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. So will you not desist?" [Sûrah al=Mâ’idah: 90-91]

If this game brings about such ill affects, then it should certainly be prohibited. However, I personally know some people who play chess while strictly guarding their prayers, refraining from arguing and avoiding all bad language.

As for becoming distracted from the remembrance of Allah, this is something common to all games and activities, as most work completely occupies the minds of those engaged in it. In spite of this fact, we see that most activities are lawful, while some are preferred, and still others are obligatory. Some of these activities, like horse riding, fencing, and industrial arts and crafts, have been classified as a collective duty on society, because at one time or another societies were or still are in need of those skills.

 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
… al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about playing chess, is it forbidden or permissible? He (may Allaah have mercy on him) replied that if it makes a person miss praying on time or he plays for money, then it is haraam, otherwise it is makrooh according to al-Shaafa’i and haraam according to others…” (al-Kabaa’ir, 89-90).


With difference in opinion , i will stick with this with the above quote .jazakAllah khair akhi
 

samiha

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Staff member
:salam2:

I don't play chess, not for it being Haram or Makrooh, or being a bad player...

It just brings back too many bad memories. Not of defeat - i never got past learning how to play, and I always forget how the horse moves up 3 down 4? Or the other way around or what?

I could have been a bad player though. :D Checkers isn't bad... only probably intermediate at that though, have no idea how to play Backgammon, Monopoly has too much luck involved, what happened to good old Tic-Tac-Toe? or Dots?

Seriously... simplicity is key ;)

wasalam
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
^ I wouldn't put chess in the same category as any 'board game' that requires one to roll a dice.

There is as much luck involved in chess as there is in tennis. If one doesn't have the moves (or skills), they will lose. Certainly not your average snakes-and-ladders game. Hmmmm, anyways. Salam alaikum.
 
:salam2:

I don't play chess, not for it being Haram or Makrooh, or being a bad player...

It just brings back too many bad memories. Not of defeat - i never got past learning how to play, and I always forget how the horse moves up 3 down 4? Or the other way around or what?

I could have been a bad player though. :D Checkers isn't bad... only probably intermediate at that though, have no idea how to play Backgammon, Monopoly has too much luck involved, what happened to good old Tic-Tac-Toe? or Dots?

Seriously... simplicity is key ;)

wasalam

Asalaamalikum,

tic tac toe??? lol come on now. You really took it to the basics. That doesn't involve any kind of skill.

Here learn the chess moves on this site then let us know if you are ready for a challenge.

http://www.chesskids.com/lessons04.shtml
 

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
:salam2:

Playing chess, even if it is not for money, is udesirable as it kills time. So are other games like cards etc. The problem is that these games once started takes much longer time to finish and you dont exhaust physically. If one round is finish one has desire to start second round and so on.

If one knows of muslim inidan princely states (nawabs) about 200 years ago...one of the reasons they lost their states to british was that they were too much indulged in chess and music. While these rulers and other govt. officers were busy with chess neglecting their duties toward public, the enemy was alert and well organized.

Playing a soccer, video game for a hour or watching/playing cricket series once in a year is not same as playing chess all the year round sitting whole day for it in a mad addiction. Islam gave solution for the problems of all the time and situations.

Wassalam
 
^^ Cool. Anyone wanna challenge me? :D

:wasalam:

Asalaamalikum,

Give me the time and place bro. I don't know about websites, if you know one let me know. I have it on my computer. It's like a virtual 3D chess with real cool sound affects and real cool background stages (Deserts, ruins, forests)
 
:salam2:

Playing chess, even if it is not for money, is udesirable as it kills time. So are other games like cards etc. The problem is that these games once started takes much longer time to finish and you dont exhaust physically. If one round is finish one has desire to start second round and so on.

If one knows of muslim inidan princely states (nawabs) about 200 years ago...one of the reasons they lost their states to british was that they were too much indulged in chess and music. While these rulers and other govt. officers were busy with chess neglecting their duties toward public, the enemy was alert and well organized.

Playing a soccer, video game for a hour or watching/playing cricket series once in a year is not same as playing chess all the year round sitting whole day for it in a mad addiction. Islam gave solution for the problems of all the time and situations.

Wassalam

Asalaamalikum,

You might not exhaust physically but you do mentally. Chess is like a gym for the brain. Just like how you work your outter body, chess works your brain.

I disagree with your opinion. There are certain leisure activities some people like which you might not. Some people think video games is a waste of time and has too much violence. Islam is a religion of moderation. I don't spend hours playing chess nor do I play it every day. When I have time, I do play it. It's not my #1 priority.
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
Playing a soccer, video game for a hour or watching/playing cricket series once in a year is not same as playing chess all the year round sitting whole day for it in a mad addiction. Islam gave solution for the problems of all the time and situations.

Yup. The same goes for other activities also - playing soccer all year around, or being addicted to a video game will have the same effect.

Of course the activity examples given are not the same - one is a "mad addiction", and the other is more of a regular activity. A mad addiction to ANYTHING will result in time being wasted. Salam alaikum.


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Asalaamalikum,

Give me the time and place bro. I don't know about websites, if you know one let me know. I have it on my computer. It's like a virtual 3D chess with real cool sound affects and real cool background stages (Deserts, ruins, forests)

After exams, hopefully. Salam alaikum.
 

samiha

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Staff member
Asalaamalikum,

tic tac toe??? lol come on now. You really took it to the basics. That doesn't involve any kind of skill.

Here learn the chess moves on this site then let us know if you are ready for a challenge.

http://www.chesskids.com/lessons04.shtml

wa alaykum salam...

lol.. ok so maybe tic tac toe was a bit below my border, but it does too require some skill! but I like Spades... bet that falls in a bad category too. But there's never any gambling :astag: But that game is soo much fun, and I love winning... but i haven't played it in a while.

:SMILY129: that's so nice, you refferred me to a baby site? lol, but ok, i'll take a look. but just one. The last time I tried learning I was 11, and my uncle was trying to get me to concentrate... didn't quite work.... ended up weird for me. anyways whatever....

here's for u and DNA i guess... if any of you really have the time for such boredoms...

Multi-player chess

wasalam
 

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
:salam2:

Playing a soccer, video game for a hour or watching/playing cricket series once in a year is not same as playing chess all the year round sitting whole day for it in a mad addiction. Islam gave solution for the problems of all the time and situations.

Ok, let me modify it little bit.

Playing a soccer, video game or even chess for a hour or watching/playing cricket series once in a year is not same as wasting the time on a habit or urge that has become addiction to such an extent that it may cause us to neglect important duties e.g. prayers on time.
When one plays football for 2 hours, he may get so tired physically that if you ask him to play another 1 hour, i doubt he will. Chess does not tire you so fast and you may play it much longer time with sips of hot tea etc.

When i say mad addiction i meant the condition of those nawabs which i mentioned earlier. I am not able to draw exact pictures of those times right here in your mind. Friends use to sit in majlis, with smoking pipes and big chess borad. From morning to noon, many times wife will send servent to call husband for some important home's work and he will reply : "just coming". Thereafter food will be severed in the majlis and the game will continue. The game will still continue in evening with the tea until wife shout on husband or take another strict measure.

Since the ill effect of such wastage of time through this game that caused greater damage was well known that time, ulemas gave their opinions on the the matter of playing chess. Now we are faced with many similar subjects such as vedio game addiction, TV addiction, chilling addicton and so on....and still ulemas are advising us to be careful from such things.

In my opinion, wastage of time is not preferable, though leisure activities including playing of games (chess too) can be done within controlled time frame for relaxing mind or body or both.

Wassalam
 

hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu
Akhee DNA, I wish we could play a game. I used to like chess but interest has diminished a bit. Not a good player but it tests your thinking capacity.
wa/salam
 

Globalpeace

Banned
Chess according to Imam Shaf'ae (RA)

Asslamo Allaikum,

Chess according to Imam Shaf'ae (without the money, gambling, wasting time off course) is praise-worthy because he says that it exercises the mind and makes you think deeper.

Chess was recommended by many other Muslim scholars; I can only think of Imam Shaf'ae (RA) at the mo.

There are a lot of scholars who have taken the Hadeeth about the prohibition of BACKGAMMON and applied it to CHESS or done ijethaad to CHESS with the Hadeeth about BACKGAMMON!
 
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