DOES ANYONE KNOW...?

Summer03

3doTs2sQuares
when a Muslim lady is pregnant and she goes to the doctor to get her usual checkup and does the sonogram for the baby....is it lawful in ISlam to find out what the Gender of the baby is?

I've always heard people finding out and all, but i've never heard shiekhs or scholars say that is wasnt allowed in ISlam to do so.

does anyone know?

please do inform ...thnx
 

amina88

I live & die 4 Allah
I am no scholar, in fact, nowhere near a scholar but I don't see why it would be haram. It's not like we are playing God, we are simply using the knowledge He swt has provided us with.
 

Karima80

Junior Member
:salam2:
I dont know either what the scholars says about this but my personal believe is why do we really need to know the gender? Understand the health aspect but gender... Just be blessed that you have a health child. inshallah
:hijabi:
 

dianek

Junior Member
:salam2:
I dont know either what the scholars says about this but my personal believe is why do we really need to know the gender? Understand the health aspect but gender... Just be blessed that you have a health child. inshallah
:hijabi:


Knowing the gender helps you to prepare in advanced for the baby's room, clothes, names etc. I couldn't have imagined not knowing what my 4 kids were prior to their birth. It would have driven me crazy and I would have been extra busy AFTER the birth......
 

muslima_only

New Member
asslaam alikom

how are you all may allah bless your lifes

i wanna share with you the topic

i think my sisters idea is that it may be haram to do so(as i understand) for we may interfer gods words.
but as i see its not haram for we dont control it and we cant .we are satisfy in both cases inshallah...and indeed my lord gives home he wishs male or female or he may prevent and grant ...its alllllll his will

may allah bless you my good sisters
 

Optimist

قل هو الله أحد
warning: opinion of a non-scholar to follow

I don't see the problem as long as you are not planning to do bad things with this knowledge
 

abou haytam

Junior Member
when a Muslim lady is pregnant and she goes to the doctor to get her usual checkup and does the sonogram for the baby....is it lawful in ISlam to find out what the Gender of the baby is?

I've always heard people finding out and all, but i've never heard shiekhs or scholars say that is wasnt allowed in ISlam to do so.

does anyone know?

please do inform ...thnx

Finding out the baby’s sex before it is born​

Question:

Ruling on finding the sex of the baby in the mother's womb before its birth by doing ultrasound and other medical equipments.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

We put this question to Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen, may Allaah preserve him, who answered as follows:

There is nothing wrong with that, unless it involves great expense. It could be said that it is a waste of money because there is no need to know the sex of the baby except for the purposes of merely feeling happy because one knows whether it is a boy or a girl. If finding out could not be achieved without spending a lot of money then it is a waste of money and is not permitted. And Allaah knows best.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen

source:

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=6201&ln=eng&txt=الأشعة
 

abou haytam

Junior Member
Is knowing the sex of the baby part of the knowledge of the unseen?

Question:

How can we reconcile between the fact that doctors can find out whether the foetus is male or female, and the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “and [He] knows that which is in the wombs” [Luqmaan 31:24], and what was narrated in Tafseer Ibn Jareer from Mujaahid, that a man asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) what his wife would give birth to, and Allaah revealed this aayah, and what was narrated from Qutaadah (may Allaah have mercy on him)? Is there any aayah or hadeeth to make the general meaning of this aayah (“what is in the wombs”) more specific?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Before I discuss this matter, I would like to explain that there can never be any contradiction between an unambiguous statement of the Qur’aan and reality. If there appears to be a contradiction with reality, it is either because what we think is reality is a baseless claim, or the (text of) the Qur’aan is not opposed to this reality in a clear and definite manner. The unambiguous statements of the Qur’aan and the facts of reality are both definitive, and two definitive things can never contradict one another.

Based on the above, it may be said that now they (doctors) are able, through the use of precise machines, to discover what is in the wombs and to find out whether it is male or female. If what is said is false, then there is no point in discussing it. If it is true, then it does not contradict the aayah, because the aayah is referring to a matter of the unseen, which has to do with the knowledge of Allaah about these five matters. The matters of the unseen as far as the foetus are concerned are: how long he will remain in his mother’s womb, his life, his deeds, his provision, whether he is doomed (destined for Hell) or blessed (destined for Paradise), and – before it is fully formed – whether it will be male or female. But after it has been fully formed, knowledge of whether it is male or female is no longer the matter of the unseen, because once it has been fully formed it becomes the matter of the visible world, but it remains within the three layers of darkness which, if they were removed, it would be known what it is. It is not far-fetched to think that among the things that Allaah has created are powerful rays which can penetrate these layers of darkness so that it may become clear whether the foetus is male or female. The aayah does not clearly refer to knowledge of whether the foetus is male or female, and the Sunnah does not refer to that either.

With regard to what the questioner refers to, that Ibn Jareer quoted from Mujaahid that a man asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) what his wife would give birth to, and Allaah revealed this aayah, this narration is munqati’ (interrupted), because Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) was one of the Taabi’een.

The tafseer of Qutaadah (may Allaah have mercy on him) may be interpreted as meaning that Allaah Alone has knowledge of that so long as it has not yet been fully formed. But once the foetus is fully formed, then others may have knowledge of it. Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in his tafseer of the aayah from Soorat Luqmaan: “No one knows what Allaah wants to create in the wombs apart from Him, but once He decrees that it should be male or female, doomed or blessed, the angels who are appointed in charge of it know that, and whoever else He wills among His creation.”

With regard to your question about what may make the general meaning of this aayah (“what is in the wombs”) more specific, we say that if the aayah was speaking about being male or female after the foetus is fully formed, then that which would make it more specific would be tangible facts. The scholars have mentioned the principles of making the general meanings of the Qur’aan and Sunnah more specific, which are a text, ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus), qiyaas (analogy), tangible facts or reason. Their comments on this matter are well known.

But since the aayah does not refer to after the foetus is fully formed, but rather it refers to before that time, there is nothing in it that would contradict the idea of knowing whether the foetus is male or female.

Praise be to Allaah, there is not, and never will be, anything in reality that contradicts the unambiguous statements of the Qur’aan. The accusations made by the enemies of the Muslims against the Qur’aan, that things happen which outwardly appear to contradict the Qur’aan, arise from their misunderstanding of the Book of Allaah which stems from their bad intentions. But the committed Muslims and scholars have enough knowledge to discover the truth which will refute the specious arguments of these people. Praise and blessings be to Allaah.

With regard to this matter, people may be one of two extremes, or a middle group.

One extreme is to adhere to the apparent meaning of Qur’aanic verses which are not unambiguous, and to reject any certain facts that go against it. Such people either expose themselves to criticism, or they expose the Qur’aan to criticism, because their view contradicts the certain realities of everyday life.

The other extreme is to turn away from that which is indicated by the Qur’aan and to adopt a purely materialistic approach. Thus one becomes a heretic.

The middle path is to accept both the indications of the Qur’aan and the facts of reality. These people know that both of them are true, and that the unambiguous statements of the Qur’aan cannot contradict something that is well known and visible. They combine acceptance of the transmitted texts with reason, thus keeping their religious commitment and their intellect safe and sound. Allaah guides those who believe to the truth of that wherein they differ, and Allaah guides whom He wills to a Straight Path (cf. al-Baqarah 2:213).

May Allaah help our believing brothers to achieve that, and may He cause us to be guided and to guide others, and make us righteous leaders. My strength is only in Allaah, in Him I put my trust and to Him I turn in repentance.



Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il Fadeelat al-Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen, vol. 1, 68-70,
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Question
As part of the routine tests for pregnant women the doctors in US suggest Ultrasound; to monitor the health of the baby. The test (Ultrasound) can also reveal the sex of the baby, is it permissible to know the sex of the baby before birth?

Answer
According to our understanding, a sensor is placed on the abdomen of a
female and the picture of the womb is reflected on the screen.

If so, it is prohibited for a female to unnecessarily reveal her entire or
part of her body to a male physician / gynaecologist. If the scan was
conducted by a female, then it is not prohibited. As regards knowing the
gender of the child through the scan, it is not prohibited. However,
experience have revealed that the information is not always correct. That
can be very disturbing to parents.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=01dc842f50c27fa0125a182858859939

Seems we have three different sources all stating it is permissible. Good job my brothers and sisters!

Wasalaam

~Sarah
 

Summer03

3doTs2sQuares
thank you so much brother 'abou haytham' for taking the time to post the info...thnx so much everyone.
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
As-salaamu `alaykum. I read this in an article in the Arab News.

During the six-day meeting of the council in Makkah, which began Nov. 3 under the chairmanship of Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh, 70 Muslim dignitaries and scholars tackled a number of important issues. On behalf of Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah, Makkah Gov. Prince Khaled Al-Faisal opened the first session of the council.

The council decided that Muslims are permitted to determine the sex of a fetus provided it was a medical necessity, such as when ascertaining diseases that are suspected to affect boys and not girls, and vice versa. The council said three doctors would be required to confirm the medical necessity of the procedure.

The council also approved damaging an ovary that could lead to a disabled child, but said that trying to control the sex of a child was strictly prohibited.
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Wa`alaykum us-salaam.

Baarak Allaah feeki sister. Prior to this I didn't even know that there existed those who consider it impermissible.
 

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