Hmmmmmmmmm what about animated movies?
Would be same as the ruling on other matters. You can find animated movies that have pretty woman or stuff regular movies have or you can find clean movies without all that haram in it. For example, princess mononoke and spirited away are good movies and clean too.
Okay, so you're saying that it is perfectly fine to share opinions on matters when it is not clear? And thus, if people follow that 'opinion' you will NOT be held accountable by Allaah?
Twisting my words are we ? I'm aware of what islamqa says and 'm also aware of what kind of movies are out there. Trust me, there are decent movies out there that are acceptable to view, even with keeping islamqa fatwas in mind.
Sorry, but the fatwa and the bolded bit of the fatwa actually goes against what you say. Ever since when was watching movies beneficial? Even in terms of the dunya, it is not beneficial at all rather the contrary. And also, no where in the fatwa does it mention that you can take benefit from it whilst watching semi-naked women etc. So please don't make the fatwa sound twisted.
I guess movies to you are only one type, the booze, sex, guns and stuff. There are movies that can serve educational purposes. For example, all arabs should watch Syriana, it does a great job of showing how stupid arab rulers are and how easily they are made puppets with little greed as well as how west disposes of those would be rulers that would stand against them. Then there is the movie Trade, which gives a good idea of how women and kids are kidnapped and sold off as slaves in the US and around the world. There are movies the teachers showed us in class too forward unimportant stuff and showing the stuff related to the content of the subject. And if you really wanna hammer in on the fatwa then why don't you tell the fatwa scholars to do something about it in their own homelands where nudity and lewdness is easily available via satellite channels, and arab channels are no more cleaner than the western.
No one is exchanging nothing here- 'cos you have miserably failed in playing the game. Both the fatwas agree with each other. This fatwa mentions that T.V is bad altogether, the other one does *not* mention it is good (this would be contradictory), rather it puts an 'exceptional' ruling that if a person *can* benefit from it and is morally strong to stay away from watching the haraam or listening to haraam... only then is it fine.
I miserably failed? wow! hold your horses there tariqi. NO need to jump on the attack wagon now. I was simply showing more than one fatwa can be found that would contradict the other one. And i'm talking in general terms here, so all that exception stuff doesn't even come in unless you want to get all nitty gritty, in that case you already lost because I already said you can find such videos that meet you "exceptions".
Firstly, there are brothers here in London who literally *LOWER* their gaze when they are outside... so it is not impossible.
No body said its not possible or it is impossible, duh!
Secondly, don't twist things around and say that the Early Muslims went out and talked to the opposite gender and make it look like free-mixing is halaal. Can you bring me your evidence from the Sahaabah, of such a situation happening after the revelation of the ayaat of Hijaab?
I said early Muslims talked to the opposite gender, meaning they interacted depending on their needs and there was no segregation and boycott of communications. I didn't get into details about proper hijab, proper manner of addressing the opposite gender and so forth because I thought you would be smart enough to take that into consideration. You're the one that is dancing around my words and twisting them rather than thinking with clear head and broad understanding.
Thirdly, are you saying it is permissible to look at women in tight clothes who look 'old' to you and boney? Seems, like your opinions are taking you a bit too far away from the Sharee`ah of Allaah. Don't let your desires destroy your deen.
Putting words in my mouth now? Did i say it is permissible? Someone might have a thing for older women or boney woman, you might even have one for all i know? I don't care, i just said it was a decent movie except for that part. But if that is too much for your virgin eyes then don't watch it.
Fourthly, I totally don't like the way you said: 'you won't go having orgasms just looking at them.'. I fear that may have been mocking an aspect of the deen, i.e. lowering the gaze... which would be apostasy my friend. As I mentioned previously, don't let your desires lead you far away from Allaah. At least admit that this is haraam, instead of arguing without knowledge.
At this point of reading your passage, i feel like slapping you for being so stupid. Must you take everything i say the wrong way? There are some people like that (go look up on islamqa) that get all excited and ejaculate at mere sight of a woman. I was saying if you are that kind then might as well stay home and not get out at all and watching movies is the least of your worries.
Fifthly, don't expose your sins by saying that you watched women in tight clothes etc. A Muslim with enough shame should hide these sort of deeds.
Don't expose your sin that you watched semi-naked women, that you watched women with tight tops and bottoms, that you watched women every time you stepped outside of the house because that is the type of women you watch when you live in the west. So don't expose your sins by telling us that you live in the west and what kind of stuff you see daily. Have some shame man!
but many Muslims memorize Quran and other important things while rocking back and forth.
Yea, pakistanis seem to have adopted the jewish ways
