Hands striaght down what's up with that?
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Wa alaikumussalaam,
Praying with his (SAW) hands straight down when..? Please be specific.
If you are referring to standing whilst saying “Rabbanaa wa laka al-hamd..." It is not prescribed to put the hands one over the other during this standing, because this was not narrated (from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). For more details, see Sifat Salaat al-Nabi, 1 – Istiqbaal al-Qiblah (The Prophet’s Prayer Described – Facing the Ka’bah).
Check out Description of the Prophet’s prayer
Praying with his (SAW) hands straight down when..? Please be specific.
If you are referring to standing whilst saying “Rabbanaa wa laka al-hamd..." It is not prescribed to put the hands one over the other during this standing, because this was not narrated (from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). For more details, see Sifat Salaat al-Nabi, 1 – Istiqbaal al-Qiblah (The Prophet’s Prayer Described – Facing the Ka’bah).
Check out Description of the Prophet’s prayer
jazaki Allah Khairan sister
but I am talking when reciting the fatiha, some people will have their hand straight down, not like having your hands put one over the other to your chest.
:salam2:
Wa iyyak.
Oh is that so? hmmm maybe they follow Shiism Wallaahu Ahlam.
Oh is that so? hmmm maybe they follow Shiism Wallaahu Ahlam.
Wa alaykum assalam.
Well yes I have heard about this too. I think its quite common in Africa and Oman. They are called IBADIS and they, I believe, pray with their hands down while the imam is reciting the fatiha and the subsequent surah. I dont know if this is from the sunnah. I heard it is..but Allahu alam.
Well yes I have heard about this too. I think its quite common in Africa and Oman. They are called IBADIS and they, I believe, pray with their hands down while the imam is reciting the fatiha and the subsequent surah. I dont know if this is from the sunnah. I heard it is..but Allahu alam.
Asalaamu Alaykum,
From the well known for madhabs, the 'followers' of Imam Malik pray with their hands on the side. The reason they do so is because Imam Malik rehimahullah did so. Despite the Muwatta of Imam Malik containing the authentic hadith of putting your right hand over your left wrist, the 'Malikis' insist on following their Imam. However if one studies the biography of Imam Malik, you will find that the reason he later placed his hands on the side was because of his inability to place them as normal, as he was severely tortured by the Ruler of the time due to his firmness upon the Sunnah. All the four Imams are of the Salaf as-Salih and we respect them and follow them in what is concordant with the Qur'an and Sunnah. As for the people who blindly follow them, that is not what these great and illustrious Imaams of this Deen told their contempories to do.
Wallahu Alem
Wassalaam
From the well known for madhabs, the 'followers' of Imam Malik pray with their hands on the side. The reason they do so is because Imam Malik rehimahullah did so. Despite the Muwatta of Imam Malik containing the authentic hadith of putting your right hand over your left wrist, the 'Malikis' insist on following their Imam. However if one studies the biography of Imam Malik, you will find that the reason he later placed his hands on the side was because of his inability to place them as normal, as he was severely tortured by the Ruler of the time due to his firmness upon the Sunnah. All the four Imams are of the Salaf as-Salih and we respect them and follow them in what is concordant with the Qur'an and Sunnah. As for the people who blindly follow them, that is not what these great and illustrious Imaams of this Deen told their contempories to do.
Wallahu Alem
Wassalaam
junaid hasan
Banned
i didn´t see something which is about shirk in 2nd video. because of that stick? ähmm i think they used it just because of bayah(t). Some times people use a rope. Hope any brother can quote any article where its detailed that use stick and rope in such way shirk is.
salafi
quran=balance=sunnah
oic
its not about the stick is about what he said to them what he is telling them
he tell them shahada then he started to tell them about dead people
what he told them after the shadatain is all ful of bidah and shirk
he told them to believe in his old shiekh(died) as a shikh and a guidance
and if you read the text on the begaining of the video you will see
"people coming to islam through sofism"
its not about the stick is about what he said to them what he is telling them
he tell them shahada then he started to tell them about dead people
what he told them after the shadatain is all ful of bidah and shirk
he told them to believe in his old shiekh(died) as a shikh and a guidance
and if you read the text on the begaining of the video you will see
"people coming to islam through sofism"
alkathiri
As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
:salam2:
jazak om Allah Khairan all for the responses, Brother Nazir do you know a place on the net where I can go and read from Almuata
:salam2:
salafi
quran=balance=sunnah
Placement of the hands in prayer between Ahl al-Sunnah and others
Question:
I am confused between the way a Sunni prays and the way a Shi'te prays. My father is a Shi'te and he has taught me to pray with my hands on my sides but I do not know what is the differnce. Why is there such difference between the two? Also, I would be very grateful if you tell me which form was used originally by Mohammad.
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
1 – The difference between the Shi’ah (Raafidis) and Sunnis (Ahl al-Sunnah) is very great, because of the difference in the sources to which each group refers. The Shi’ah rely on books and scholars who are insignificant in the eyes of the Sunnis.
For example, after the Qur’aan, the Sunnis rely on Saheeh al-Bukhaari, but the Shi’ah do not regard it as a reference and they do not regard its author as significant. They even differ from us with regard to the Sahaabah. The Shi’ah regard all the Sahaabah as kaafirs apart from a few of them. Some of them even claim that the Qur’aan which is in circulation among the Sunnis is missing some parts and has been altered; those who do not say that the Qur’aan is missing some parts and has been altered say that it has been misinterpreted and reject the tafseer (interpretation) that has been narrated from our imams.
Al-Shu’bi said: I warn you against misguided groups, the worst of which are the Raafidis. ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib burned them with fire and expelled them from the land, and the proof of that is that the ideas of the Raafidis are like the ideas of the Jews.
The Jews said that only a man from the family of Dawood could be a leader, and the Raafidis say that only a man from among the descendents of ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib could be a leader.
The Jews said that there can be no fighting for the sake of Allaah until the Dajjaal (“Antichrist”) appears and some support comes down from heaven, and the Raafidis say that there can be no fighting for the sake of Allaah until the Mahdi appears and a voice calls out from heaven.
The Jews delay the evening prayer until the stars appear, and the Raafidis do likewise. According to a hadeeth narrated from the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “My ummah will continue to adhere to the fitrah (sound natural disposition of man) so long as they do not delay Maghrib prayer until the stars appear.” (Abu Dawood, 418; Ibn Maajah, 689; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 444).
The Jews turned away slightly from their direction of prayer, as do the Raafidis.
The Jews sway back and forth in prayer, as do the Raafidis.
The Jews regard it as permissible to shed the blood of every Muslim, as do the Raafidis.
The Jews do not observe any ‘iddah (waiting period) when a woman is divorced or widowed, and neither do the Raafidis.
The Jews reject the idea of three-fold talaaq (divorce), as do the Raafidis.
The Jews altered the Tawraat (Torah), as the Raafidis altered the Qur’aan.
The Jews hate Jibreel and say, “He is our enemy among the angels.” Some of the Raafidis do likewise and say that he made a mistake by giving the Revelation to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Al-Sunnah by al-Khallaal, 3/497-498.
These are some of the misguidance and myths of the Shi’ah. Hence it is no surprise that they put their arms at their sides when praying, which is clearly contrary to the saheeh Sunnah.
With regard to the evidence for placing the right hand over the left when praying, there is a great deal of such evidence. For example:
It was narrated that Sahl ibn Sa’d said: The people were commanded to put the right hand over the left forearm when praying.
Abu Haazim said: I only know that this is attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 707).
“[The Prophet] (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to place his right hand on his left hand.” (Narrated by Muslim, 401).
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) passed by a man who was praying, and who had placed his left hand on his right hand. He grabbed his arms and put his right hand on his left.” (Ahmad, no. 12671)
It was narrated from Waa’il ibn Hajar that he saw the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) raise his hands when he started to pray and say Takbeer, and according to Hammaam he raised his hands level with his ears. Then he wrapped his hands in his garment, putting his right hand on his left. When he wanted to bow in rukoo’ he took his hands from beneath his garment, raised them, then said Takbeer and bowed. When he said “Sami’a Allaah liman hamidah,” he raised his hands, and when he prostrated, he prostrated between his two hands.” (Narrated by Muslim, 401).
It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “We Prophets have been commanded to hasten the breaking of our fast and to delay our suhoor, and to put our right hands over our left when praying.” (Narrated by Ibn Hibbaan, 3/13. This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Sifat al-Salaah, p. 87).
Ibn Hajar said:
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: There is no different report narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and this is the view of the majority of the Sahaabah and Taabi’een. This is what was mentioned by Maalik in al-Muwatta’, and Ibn al-Mundhir and others did not narrate anything different from Maalik. Ibn al-Qaasim narrated that Maalik had said that the arms should be held at the sides, and most of his companions followed him. And it was narrated that he said there is a difference between obligatory and naafil prayers. Some of them regarded it as makrooh to hold one hand with the other. Ibn al-Haajib narrated that this means it is makrooh when one does it for the purpose of resting the hands.”
Fath al-Baari, 2/224.
And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A
Asalaamu Alaykum,
JazakhAllah khairen for fulfilling the request the was made to me, alhamdulillah. Very speedy brothers and sisters here
Wassalaam
Munawar
Striving for Paradise
I know that Shia pray with their hands down.
Some one here said that Shias believe that Quran has some missing surahs. That is not true. I don't think they believe that Quran has some missing surahs, because I have heard from many Shia Alims and they all say that Quran (as it is today) is the same Quran as it was revealed to Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).
Some one here said that Shias believe that Quran has some missing surahs. That is not true. I don't think they believe that Quran has some missing surahs, because I have heard from many Shia Alims and they all say that Quran (as it is today) is the same Quran as it was revealed to Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).
Asalaamu Alaykum,
Some sects within the Shia overall sect do believe that the Qu'ran today is incomplete; some say that parts of it were eaten by a goat! And some say that it was distorted by the 'apostates'(some of the openly pronounce takfir upon the companions) after the death of Rasulullah. May Allah save us from their evil.
Wassalaam
Some sects within the Shia overall sect do believe that the Qu'ran today is incomplete; some say that parts of it were eaten by a goat! And some say that it was distorted by the 'apostates'(some of the openly pronounce takfir upon the companions) after the death of Rasulullah. May Allah save us from their evil.
Wassalaam