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Yusuf1990

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Salaam! This issue of Jesus is the one thing that is really hard for me....I love Jesus with all my heart and soul and feel terribly guilty over my decision and am very scared as well. However, I never believed or understood in all my church years (baptist) that Jesus was GOD...they were always separate in my mind. But that Jesus was our "lawyer" if you will, defending us before the Father. I, and I know I am going to hear it now from brothers and sisters, still think that way...I can't help it, it is instilled in me. Although I believe the Qu'ran and that Mohammad was a prophet of God, Jesus is the one I identify with and the TRUE teachings of Christ, his example. So, LOL, like they have a group called Jews for Jesus.......I am a Muslim for Jesus.....OK GUYS I CAN HEAR ALL THE ASTUFFRALLAHS rolling off your tounges.......I don't pray to Jesus, I just love him......
Salamal'akem Dianek!
I understand your feeling on that matter so dont worry :)
I, as a Christian still beleive Jesus to be the Son of God, but as someone who has questions about it and many other things in Christianity that cannot be answered, have took a step back and put all my beliefs aside. I want to understand Islam, I want to fully understand it. I agree with so much of it already, and I still want to know more!
Thats why it's great there are websites like these that can help people like me :) imagine if this didn't exist? I would just simply live and die a confused Christian, but because this exists, that dosn't have to happen. So I thank God for this!

I am beginning to have the feeling that God may have called me through Christianity because where I live and because of my family etc that was the only way for Him to call me into belief. Whether or not Christianity (Catholicism for me) is the right choice is another thing, and that is what I am trying to find out.

Don't stop loving Jesus, if you truely beleive him to be a Prophet then just convert your love into that! In Islam Jesus is still a hugely important Prophet, and without him things would be completley different. So don't feel bad, just love him with all your heart as you should Muhammad and all the other Prophets. But realise that the way you live your life now means all worshipping is due to God, and God alone.

Peace.
 

abubaseer

tanzil.info
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There is nothing wrong in loving Jesus Sister Dianek, I don't think any Muslim in his right mind would say Astagfirullah for loving Jesus peace be upon him.

We Muslims are supposed to love the Prophets of Allah...Adam, Noah, Moses Jesus and Muhammad Peace be upon them all, not just Jesus peace be upon him.

But we don't go to extremes in the love of any Prophet of God.

We don't elevate Jesus peace be upon him to level that that we make him equal to God... SubhanAllah! Like christians do...
Nor do we reject him like the Jews do...

Allah has made us a balanced Nation even in very emotional matter like Love of the Prophets...Alhamdulillah!
 

dianek

Junior Member
Salaam Patrick:

That is exactly what I keep trying to do......I still fervently say the Lord's Prayer, even though I reverted to islam in Nov. 07. I admire and accept Muhammed but I am not drawn to him in the way I am drawn to Jesus. I have a hard time putting him "ahead" of Jesus the way all muslims do. With that, I don't get that sense from my muslim born husband that he "loves" Jesus at all........anytime he hears the name Jesus it is followed by an astuffrallah....I don't understand that. I know they are to love Jesus but I don't see that emmulated from my husband......

A big portion of me too is still more comfortable with going to church than to a Mosque. I feel more humbled in church, more at peace, I sometimes have been so overwhelmed with emotions in church that I am brought to tears and ask God to please forgive me for whatever I have done or am doing that is not in his will. Don't get me wrong, i don't go to church to worship Jesus. I go to learn about his life and his love for God. That is my interpretation of christianity. I know much has been changed and removed from the Bibles today. I believe the qu'ran to be true.....Just wish they would teach from it in church! I am a struggling new muslim. I have no issues with the qu'ran but I do have issues with hadiths and various "scholar interpretations" as I feel that a lot of their interpretations are biased by their culture and own ideas. I can't help but think that since the Qu'ran as God stated "he has perfected his religion islam for us"....then why should we look to hadiths to complete our faith. This is just something that I struggle with.....
 

dianek

Junior Member
how you can prove that Jesus is a son of god ???


As a former christian, I never interpreted it to mean the LITERAL, BIOLOGICAL son of God......it was a symbolic son of God more than anything. So again, it is all in one's interpretation or maybe I was just not paying enough attention in Sunday School......who knows.....
 

massi

Junior Member
As a former christian, I never interpreted it to mean the LITERAL, BIOLOGICAL son of God......it was a symbolic son of God more than anything. So again, it is all in one's interpretation or maybe I was just not paying enough attention in Sunday School......who knows.....
why it is just symbolic and how it is symbolic ???
 

massi

Junior Member
Salaam Patrick:

That is exactly what I keep trying to do... any muslim love jesus and also we believe he will come back and he will break the cross and kill the pig and ...it's long sotry ......:lol:
...I still fervently say the Lord's Prayer :astag: it's haram because it's sherk and the message of jesus is to worship only Allaah ...
even though I reverted to islam in Nov. 07.
I admire and accept Muhammad but I am not drawn to him in the way I am drawn to Jesus....also the one who send jesus ...has send Mohammad
I have a hard time putting him "ahead" of Jesus the way all Muslims do...:lol:


With that, I don't get that sense from my Muslim born husband that he "loves" Jesus at all....what do you mean ...are you waiting him to worship to jesus or what ...our love for jesus is show the fact of his message from Allaah to ppl
....anytime he hears the name Jesus it is followed by an astuffrallah...why ...
...I don't understand that. ... I m too ...
I know they are to love Jesus but I don't see that emulated from my husband......your husband present only himself ...:lol:

A big portion of me too is still more comfortable with going to church than to a Mosque.....
first it's not good --second it's a whisper from the shaytan
I feel more humbled in church, more at peace, I sometimes have been so overwhelmed with emotions in church that I am brought to tears and ask God to please forgive me for whatever I have done or am doing that is not in his will...
so do you feel to cry when you listen to the quran ...

Don't get me wrong, i don't go to church to worship Jesus... I go to learn about his life and his love for God.....That is my interpretation of Christianity... I know much has been changed and removed from the Bibles today.... I believe the qu'ran to be true.....Just wish they would teach from it in church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how you know if it's true stories about jesus or not ...

I am a struggling new Muslim.... I have no issues with the qu'ran but I do have issues with hadiths and various "scholar interpretations" as I feel that a lot of their interpretations are biased by their culture and own ideas....
you are confused my sister with the hadith and scholar

I can't help but think that since the Qu'ran as God stated "he has perfected his religion Islam for us"....then why should we look to hadiths to complete our faith. This is just something that I struggle with....Allaah has gave the quran to the profete mohammed peace be upon him ...he has gave him the sunna too so don't talk like that
 

massi

Junior Member
He was CREATED by God through emasculate conception and he was the closest of all people to God.....
so what do you say about the other prophets who they are more closer than Jesus : Noe , Ibrahim , Muse and of course Mohammad peace be upon them all... :lol:

so are they sons of god ...of course ...symbolic ...
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
:salam2:

Sister DianeK, why we look to hadeeths is a good question, youre right about the Qur'aan being absolutely complete, but think of it as a manual, telling us how to live and behave in the best manner, the Prophet Muhammad :saw: lived the Qur'aan and it is through his example, through imitating him in his habits, that we maximise the message within the Qur'aan in our lives. Hadeeth and Qur'aan do not contradict, rather they complement each other, there is nothing said in the Ahadeeth which is innovated i.e. not found in the Qur'aan or cannot be supported by Qur'aanic evidence.
 

massi

Junior Member
A brief look at ‘Eesa (Jesus) – peace be upon him

Question:
Could you give us a brief description of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him)?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

· Maryam the daughter of ‘Imraan was a pious and righteous woman… She strove hard in worship until she had no peer in matters of worship… The angels gave her the glad tidings that Allaah had chosen her:

“And (remember) when the angels said: ‘O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah has chosen you, purified you (from polytheism and disbelief), and chosen you above the women of the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn) (of her lifetime).’

O Maryam! ‘Submit yourself with obedience to your Lord (Allaah, by worshipping none but Him Alone) and prostrate yourself, and bow down along with Ar-Raaki‘oon (those who bow down)’”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:42-43]

· Then the angels gave Maryam the glad tidings that Allaah would bestow upon her a child, whom He would create with the word “Be! And it is.” This child’s name was the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Mary)… He would be held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and he would be a Messenger to the Children of Israel… He would teach the Book and wisdom, and the Tawraat (Torah) and Injeel (Gospel) … And he would have attributes and miracles that no one else would have, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(Remember) when the angels said: ‘O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the glad tidings of a Word [“Be!” — and he was! i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)] from Him, his name will be the Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allaah.

He will speak to the people, in the cradle and in manhood, and he will be one of the righteous.’

She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So (it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: “Be!” and it is’” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:45-47]

· Then Allaah tells us the rest of the glad tidings of the angels to Maryam of her son ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), and of the honour of ‘Eesa, and how He would support him with miracles:

“And He (Allaah) will teach him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).

And will make him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] a Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allaah’s Leave; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allaah’s Leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe.

And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Tawraat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord. So fear Allaah and obey me.

Truly, Allaah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path’”[Aal ‘Imraan 3:48-51]

· Allaah is absolutely perfect in His powers of Creation. He creates what He wills, how He wills… He created Adam from dust without a father or a mother, and He created Hawwa’ from the rib of Adam from a father but without a mother. He has caused the descendents of Adam to have both a father and a mother, and He created ‘Eesa from his mother without a father… Glory be to the All-Knowing Creator.

· Allaah has explained clearly in the Qur’aan how ‘Eesa was born. He says (interpretation of the meaning:

“And mention in the Book (the Qur’aan, O Muhammad, the story of) Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew in seclusion from her family to a place facing east.

She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Rooh [angel Jibreel (Gabriel)], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects.

She said: ‘Verily, I seek refuge with the Most Gracious (Allaah) from you, if you do fear Allaah.’

(The angel) said: ‘I am only a messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son.’

She said: ‘How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste?’

He said: ‘So (it will be), your Lord said: ‘That is easy for Me (Allaah). And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allaah), and it is a matter (already) decreed (by Allaah)’ ”[Maryam 19:16-21]

· When Jibreel told her that, she submitted to the will and decree of Allaah, and Jibreel breathed into the sleeves of her garment:

“So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem).

And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date palm. She said: ‘Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!’”[Maryam 19:22-23]

· Then Allaah provided Maryam with water and food, and commanded her not to speak to anyone:

“Then [the babe ‘Eesa (Jesus) or Jibreel (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: ‘Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you.

And shake the trunk of date palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon you.

So eat and drink and be glad. And if you see any human being, say: “Verily, I have vowed a fast unto the Most Gracious (Allaah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day”’”[Maryam 19:24-26]

· Then Maryam came to her people, carrying her child ‘Eesa. When they saw her, they thought that she had done a terrible thing and they denounced it, but she did not respond to them. She indicated that they should ask this infant, and he would tell them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: ‘O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariyy (a mighty thing).

O sister (i.e. the like) of Haaroon (Aaron)! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman.’

Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?’”[Maryam 19:27-29]

· ‘Eesa replied to them straight away, even though he was a child in the cradle:

“He [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘Verily, I am a slave of Allaah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;

And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me Salaah (prayer), and Zakaah, as long as I live.

And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.

And Salaam (peace) be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!’”[Maryam 19:30-33]

This is the information about ‘Eesa ibn Maryam, the slave and Messenger of Allaah. But the People of the Book differed concerning him. Some of them said that he was the son of God, and some said that he was the third of three (“trinity”), and some said that he was God, and some said that he was a slave and Messenger of God. This last view is the correct view. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Such is ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (It is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).

It befits not (the Majesty of) Allaah that He should beget a son [this refers to the slander of Christians against Allaah, by saying that ‘Eesa (Jesus) is the son of Allaah]. Glorified (and Exalted) be He (above all that they associate with Him). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it: “Be!” and it is.

[‘Eesa (Jesus) said]: ‘And verily, Allaah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the Straight Path. (Allaah’s religion of Islâmic Monotheism which He did ordain for all of His Prophets).’

Then the sects differed [i.e. the Christians about ‘Eesa (Jesus)], so woe unto the disbelievers [those who gave false witness by saying that ‘Eesa (Jesus) is the son of Allaah] from the Meeting of a great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection, when they will be thrown in the blazing Fire)”[Maryam 19:34-38]

· When the Children of Israel deviated from the Straight Path and overstepped the limits set by Allaah, they did wrong and spread corruption on earth, and a group among them denied the resurrection, Reckoning and punishment. They indulged in their desires and in physical pleasures without expecting to be brought to account. At that point, Allaah sent to them ‘Eesa ibn Maryam as a Messenger, and taught him the Tawraat and Injeel as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And He (Allaah) will teach him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).

And will make him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] a Messenger to the Children of Israel”[Aal ‘Imraan 3:48]

· Allaah revealed to ‘Eesa ibn Maryam the Injeel (Gospel) as guidance and light, confirming that which had come before it in the Tawraat:

“and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Tawraat (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqoon (the pious)”[al-Maa’idah 5:46 – interpretation of the meaning]

· ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) foretold the coming of a Messenger from Allaah after him, whose name would be Ahmad. This is Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allaah unto you, confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic’”[al-Saff 61:6]

· ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) called the Children of Israel to worship Allaah alone, and to obey the rulings of the Tawraat and Injeel… He started to dispute with them and to explain the error of their ways. When he saw how stubborn they were and how the signs of kufr were manifest among them, he stood among his people, saying, Who will be my helpers in the cause of Allaah? The disciples believed in him, and their number was twelve. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Then when ‘Eesa (Jesus) came to know of their disbelief, he said: ‘Who will be my helpers in Allaah’s Cause?’ Al-Hawaariyyoon (the disciples) said: ‘We are the helpers of Allaah; we believe in Allaah, and bear witness that we are Muslims (i.e. we submit to Allaah).’

Our Lord! We believe in what You have sent down, and we follow the Messenger [‘Eesa (Jesus)]; so write us down among those who bear witness (to the truth, i.e. Laa ilaaha illallaah — none has the right to be worshipped but Allaah)”[Aal ‘Imraan 3:52-53]

· Allaah supported ‘Eesa with great miracles which remind us of the power of Allaah, lift the spirit and promote faith in Allaah and in the Last Day. He made something like the shape of a bird from clay, and blew into it, and it became a bird, by Allaah’s leave. He healed the blind and the leper, and brought the death back to life by Allaah’s leave. He told the people what they were eating and what they were storing in their houses. So the Jews to whom Allaah had sent ‘Eesa became hostile towards him and tried to the people away from him, so they disbelieved in him and accused his mother of immorality.

· When they saw that the weak and poor believed in him, and were gathering around him, they formed a plot to kill him. So they provoked the Romans against him, and they made the Roman governor think that the call of ‘Eesa contained a threat against (Roman) power. So he (the Roman governor) issued orders that ‘Eesa should be arrested and crucified. But Allaah caused a hypocrite who had betrayed him to the Romans to look like ‘Eesa. The soldiers arrested him, thinking that he was ‘Eesa, and crucified him. But Allaah saved ‘Eesa from the cross and from death, and Allaah tells us about the Jews (interpretation of the meaning):

“And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allaah,’ — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them the resemblance of ‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]:

But Allaah raised him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allaah is Ever All Powerful, All Wise”[al-Nisaa’ 4:157-158]

· So Eesa (peace be upon him) did not die, rather Allaah raised him up to Himself, and he will descend before the Day of Resurrection and will follow Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He will prove the Jews to be wrong in their claim to have killed ‘Eesa and crucified him. And he will prove the Christians to be wrong who exaggerated about him and said that he was God, or the son of God, or the third of three. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “By the One in Whose hand is my soul, the son of Maryam will descend among you as a just judge. He will break the cross, kill the pigs and abolish the jizyah, and money will become so widespread that there will be no one who will accept it.” (Agreed upon; narrated by Muslim, no. 155).

· When ‘Eesa comes down before the Day of Resurrection, the People of the Book will believe in him, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him [‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allaah and a human being] before his [‘Eesa (Jesus) or a Jew’s or a Christian’s] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he [‘Eesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them”

[al-Nisaa’ 4:159]

· ‘Eesa ibn Maryam is the slave of Allaah and His Messenger. Allaah sent him to guide the Children of Israel and to call them to worship Allaah alone, as Allaah says to the Jews and Christians (interpretation of the meaning):

“O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allaah aught but the truth. The Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allaah and His Word, (‘Be!’ — and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rooh) created by Him; so believe in Allaah and His Messengers. Say not: ‘Three (trinity)!’ Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allaah is (the only) One Ilaah (God), glory is to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allaah is All Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs”[al-Nisaa’ 4:171]

· Saying that ‘Eesa is the son of God is a monstrous saying and a great evil.

“And they say: ‘The Most Gracious (Allaah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children) [as the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allaah, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son [‘Eesa (Jesus)], and the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels and others)].’

Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.

Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins,

That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Gracious (Allaah).

But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Gracious (Allaah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).

There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Gracious (Allaah) as a slave[Maryam 19:88-93]

· ‘Eesa ibn Maryam is a human being, a slave of Allaah and His Messenger. Whoever believes that the Messiah son of Maryam is God is a disbeliever (kaafir).

“Surely, they have disbelieved who say: Allaah is the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)’”[al-Maa’idah 5:72]

· Whoever says that the Messiah is the son of God or the third of three is also a disbeliever:

“Surely, disbelievers are those who said: ‘Allaah is the third of the three (in a Trinity).” But there is no Ilaah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilaah (God —Allaah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them”[al-Maa’idah 5:73]

· The Messiah son of Maryam was a human being. He was born from a mother; he ate and drank, got up and went to sleep, suffered pain and wept… and God (Allaah) is far above all of that, so how could he be God? Rather he is the slave of Allaah and His Messenger:

“The Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddeeqah [i.e. she believed in the Words of Allaah and His Books]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allaah does not eat). Look how We make the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them; yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth)”[al-Maa’idah 5:75]

· The Jews, Christians, crusaders and their followers distorted the religion of the Messiah, and deviated and changed it. They said (may Allaah curse them) that Allaah sent forth his son the Messiah to be killed and crucified as a sacrifice for mankind – so it doesn’t matter if anyone does whatever he wants, because Jesus will carry all his sins for him… And they spread that belief among all the Christian groups until it became a part of their beliefs. All of this is falsehood and is lies against Allaah, and speaking about Him without knowledge. Rather “every soul will be (held) in pledge for its deeds”. Man’s life cannot be sound or correct unless they have a path to follow and limits at which to stop.

· Look at how they fabricate lies against Allaah, and speak about Allaah with no guidance:

“Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, ‘This is from Allaah,’ to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby” [al-Baqarah 2:79]

· Allaah has taken from the Christians the pledge that they will follow ‘Eesa and follow that which he brought, but they changed and distorted that; they differed then they turned away. So Allaah will punish them with enmity and hatred in this world, and with torment in the Hereafter, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And from those who call themselves Christians, We took their covenant, but they have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. So We planted amongst them enmity and hatred till the Day of Resurrection (when they discarded Allaah’s Book, disobeyed Allaah’s Messengers and His Orders and transgressed beyond bounds in Allaah’s disobedience); and Allaah will inform them of what they used to do”[al-Maa’idah 5:14]

· On the Day of Resurrection, ‘Eesa will stand before the Lord of the Worlds, Who will ask him before the witnesses what he said to the Children of Israel, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when Allaah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): ‘O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: “Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allaah?”’ He will say: ‘Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen).

Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allaah) did command me to say: “Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord.”’ And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world).

If You punish them, they are Your slaves, and if You forgive them, verily, You, only You, are the All Mighty, the All Wise”’

[al-Maa’idah 5:116-118]

· Allaah has created kindness and mercy among the followers of ‘Eesa and the believers. They are closer in friendship to the followers of Muhammad than anyone else, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the beievers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikoon, and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: ‘We are Christians.’ That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud”

[al-Maa’idah 5:82]

‘Eesa ibn Maryam was the last of the Prophets sent to the Children of Israel. Then after him Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), from among the descendents of Ismaa’eel, to all of mankind. And he is the last of the Prophets and Messengers.


From Usool al-Deen al-Islami by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem al-Tuwayjri
 

massi

Junior Member
What is the role of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him)?

Question:
I would like to know what is the duties and functions of Jesus as "Al-Masih" in Islam. Many Christian anti-Islamic sites have been asking this question. Its not that my faith is not strong, but I could not explain my answer properly. Perhaps you can help me.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

‘Eesa (peace be upon him) has two roles:

1- His first role, which was before Allaah raised him up to heaven when the Jews wanted to crucify him. His role at that time was, like that of any other Prophet, to convey the Message. Allaah gave him the Injeel (Gospel) to confirm the Tawraat (Torah), and He gave him miracles which are well known, such as healing the blind and lepers, and raising the dead by Allaah’s leave, and other well known miracles.

“He called his people to worship Allaah Alone and to believe in Him alone (Tawheed), and he was a witness against them throughout his stay among them.”

2- His second role will come at the end of time, when the Dajjaal will emerge. Allaah will send ‘Eesa down to the earth, and he will be a leader of the believers who will rule them according to the Islamic sharee’ah. He will kill the Dajjaal, and the Mahdi will appear during his time. Blessings will come down from Allaah such that the milk of one camel will be sufficient for a large number of people, and wealth will be abundant. During his time Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj (Gog and Magog) will emerge and will spread mischief throughout the earth. “Allaah will destroy them and ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) will rule the earth according to Islamic sharee’ah, until he dies and the Muslims offer the funeral prayer for him.” Then Allaah will send a cool breeze which will take the soul of every believer, and after that none will be left except the most evil of people, upon whom the Hour will come.


Shaykh Sa’d al-Humayd

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Hello Patrick,

Welcome to our global family. Inshallah (God willing) you will find truth, tranquility, and peace in your heart.

For starters, I recommend you watch these two monumental documentaries by PBS:

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30415

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30339


NO I don't cry when I hear the qu'ran or read from it. CAn't tell you why either. On the contrary when i hear the Qu'ran in Arabic I am really annoyed by the way they are reading it. I could do without the way they "sing" the words......I prefer to hear it in English so I can understand but I can't because all interpretations I have found have the ARabic mixed in.....

As for the Lord's Prayer, how is Shirk? Here is the Lord's Prayer....

Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

How is that UNISLAMIC and SHIRK? How can a muslim not agree or approve rather of such a prayer.....

Salaam sister Diane,

Please watch this short clip about the Lords Prayer:

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We Muslims are neutral where we don't have evidence (based on the Quran & Sunnah) if these were the exact words of Isa (peace be upon him). We do not reject nor do we agree, but because as we have clearly shown in many threads how there has been forgery in many passages of the Bible, we don't know if these were the words of our beloved prophet Isa (pbuh).

No there is no shirk in those words, but you must understand that the Quran is the last revelation sent to mankind and God Almighty said:

"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it from corruption" (15:9)

The Quran supersedes all revelations including the Bible & Torah. Sure I love all the prophets (may Allah exalt their mention) but it is only to Allah we belong and to him we return. Our love for Allah swt alone should be greater than anything else.

It surprises me that your faith comes across as shaky. Look at the videos, how many priests, Jews, Christians, Hindus, professionals, lawyers, doctors, scientists have reverted and are still running towards Islam. This shouldn't be used to convince you that Islam is the truth but it also shouldn't just run across your eyes either.

You can use www.quranexplorer.com to hear the recitation of the Quran in English or you can just simply read it yourself! The words of Allah swt are the most luxurious and beautiful words in world. I wouldn't say "annoyed" because these scholars have dedicated their whole life in practicing and harmonizing the words of Allah swt.

You should try reciting (or listening) to this prayer called Ayat Al-Kursi:

"Allah! There is no god but He - the Living, The Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him Nor Sleep. His are all things In the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede In His presence except As he permitteth? He knoweth What (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass Aught of his knowledge Except as He willeth. His throne doth extend Over the heavens And on earth, and He feeleth No fatigue in guarding And preserving them, For He is the Most High. The Supreme (in glory)." (2:255)

http://www.mounthira.com/learning/ayat/alkursi/ayatulkursi/

"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Surah like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (if there are any) besides Allah if your (doubts) are true. But if ye cannot – and of a surety ye cannot – then fear the Fire whose fuel is Men and Stones – which is prepared for those who reject faith". (2:23-24)
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
Salamal'akem,

Last year I finally let God into my life after living 17 years without Him. My family are Roman Catholic and so after a disscussion with my mother she gave me some rosary beads and told me to think about things. I went away, I prayed, I began reading from the Bible, I asked for guidance etc and then began goning to Mass on a sunday at my local Catholic Church.
I was instantly accepted and befriended many people including the Priest. I decided it was best to become a Catholic as I agreed with it and felt comfortable, so I spent 8 months going to Mass, reading the Bible, praying and changing the way I lived to suit God. I was Baptised and confirmed at Easter and have started taking Holy Communion as I'm now fully part of the Church.

THIS IS MY PROBLEM:

I feel alot of the time that Christianity has been corrupted, it is like a western trademark. I dont like the way when Christians try arguing for their religion against others from different faiths they cant back themselves up. When I read the Bible I can sometimes see what people are on about it being changed, over time things have been added or taken away... I also struggle to accept some things I read such as the Trinity, the world being created in 7 days, the images of Jesus and Saints and also the way we pray to Saints.
I am constantly attracted to Islam, I have heard so many stories of Christian and Jewish people alike converting including priests and bishops. I respect and understand the way ANY image of God or Prophets like Muhammad are forbidden. I find it easier to accept the idea God is One, Unchanging Sustainer of the Universe and the way Islam agrees on some scientific issues which has been pretty much proven and go agaisnt other religions like Christianity and Judaism. But, being a new Catholic I dont want to feel like this, I want to be 100% happy with my religion and not be interested in any other but as my love for God has grown these feelings ad questions have emerged.
It would be a major help if anyone can give me some guidance on this issue, or if anyone has been through a similar situation and can tell me their stories.


Peace.
:salam2:welcome mate ,hope your in the best of your health inshallah,from what i can see you are really motivated about learning,if you stick around a bit am sure you will find the responses you heart is longing for, i leave with a couple of quotations for you to be sure you are not wasting your time by learning about this humble man muhammad sallah llahu aleihi wassalkam the last messenger of god,the seal of the prophets,the last witness to that all time religion,that all prophets have preached throughout the ages!;)
What they say about Muhammad


If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? Mohammad established a system based upon true and immortal ideology. Is there any like he? -- [Alphonse Lamartine, French historian and philosopher, Historie de la Turquie, Paris]

Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Warrior, Conqueror of ideas, the Restorer of rational beliefs, the Preacher of a religion without images, the Founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one heavenly Empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards [I repeat, "ALL"] by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, "Is there any man greater than he?" -- [Alphonse Lamartine]

My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. -- [Michael H. Hart, The 100, American Astrophysicist]

The world much needs a man with Muhammad's bright thinking �侵 believe that if a man like Mohammad's caliber were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today. -- [George Bernard Shaw]

I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man - and in my opinion far from being anti-Christ he must be called the savior of humanity. -- [George Bernard Shaw]

Leaders must fulfill three functions ��provide for the well-being of the led, provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure, provide them with one set of beliefs. People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same. -- [Jules Masserman, Professor of History and Psychoanalyst]

He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pop without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammad, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports. -- [Reverend B. Smith - Mohammad and Mohammadanism, London]

The noble founder of a nation, an empire and a religion. The unlettered one bestowed upon the world the Book which is a miracle, the eternal miracle and the true miracle. -- [Reverend B. Smith]

Mohammad never assigned himself a status more than a common man and a messenger of God. People had faith in him when he was surrounded by poverty and adversity and trusted him while he was the ruler of a great Empire. He was a man of spotless character who always had confidence in himself and in God's help. No aspect of his life remained hidden nor was his death a mysterious event. -- [M.H. Hyndman]

I become more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme for life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These and not the sword, carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble. The sayings of Muhammad are a treasure of wisdom not only for Muslims but for all mankind. -- [Mahatma Gandhi]

The personality of Muhammad, it is most difficult to get into the whole truth of it. Only a glimpse of it I can catch. What a dramatic succession of picturesque scenes! There is Muhammad, the Prophet; there is Muhammad, the Warrior; Muhammad, the Businessman; Muhammad, the Statesman; Muhammad, the Orator; Muhammad, the Reformer; Muhammad, the Refuge of Orphans; Muhammad, the Protector of Slaves; Muhammad, the Emancipator of Women; Muhammad, the Judge; Muhammad, the Saint. All in all these magnificent roles, in all these departments of human activities, he is like a hero. -- [Prof. K. S. Ramakrishna Rao, Professor of Philosophy]

For me it is enough that Muhammad is the greatest feminist the world has so far had but has so little come to know of... Personally I am infinitely grateful to Muhammad, who has not only empathized with the crying voice of the despairing and exploited woman but has taken momentous measures blustering all opposition, to alleviate her lot and strengthen her in realistic terms ��For ages and ages, a woman had found herself begging and groveling in front of her male master, with her heart-wrenching pleas for justice remaining unheard and unaddressed. Muhammad had changed this forever. -- [Anita Rai]

Mohammad was the greatest Executive Officer for implementation of the Divine Will. Like other prophets he knew that time will come when all mankind will become one community. -- [H.N. Spalding]

If the object of religion be the inculcation of morals, the diminution of evil, the promotion of human happiness, the expansion of the human intellect, if the performance of good works will avail in the great day when mankind shall be summoned to its final reckoning it is neither irreverent nor unreasonable to admit that Muhammad was indeed an Apostle of God. -- [S. P. Scott, History of the Moorish Empire in Europe]

Muhammad adhered meticulously to the charter he forged for Medina, which - grounded as it was in the Quranic injunction, "Let there be no compulsion in religion" (2:256) - is arguably the first mandate for religious tolerance in human history. -- [Huston Smith]

Mohammad introduced the concept of such Glorious and Omnipotent God in Whose eyes all worldly systems are pieces of straw. Islamic equality of mankind is no fiction as it is in Christianity. No human mind has ever thought of such total freedom as established by Mohammad. -- [Dr. Mawde Royden]

The Book revealed to Muhammad is one and unique of its kind. It has left indelible impression on the hearts of humanity. Nothing can overcome its majesty. The Quran has given new dimensions to human thinking - Surprising reforms, stunning success! The power that created in Muslims a ravenous appetite for knowledge sprung from the Quran. -- [Rev. B. Margoliouth, Biographies of Mohammad]

Muhammad saved the human civilization from extinction. -- [J.H. Denison, Emotions as the Basis of Civilization]

He laid the foundation of a universal government. His law was one for all. Equal justice and love for everyone. -- [George Rivorie - Visages de L' Islam]

Islam is the only religion that gives dignity to the poor. -- [Ramsey Clark, Former U.S. Attorney General]

The message of Mohammad, Islam, is nothing but a blessing for mankind - The usher from darkness to light and from Satan to God. -- [Rev E. Stephenson - My Reflections]

Muhammad is the most successful of all religious personalities. -- [Encyclopedia Britannica]

A mass of detail in the early sources show that [Muhammad] was an honest and upright man who had gained the respect and loyalty of others who were like-wise honest and upright men. -- [The Encyclopedia Britannica, 12th edition]

The Message of Mohammad is not a set of metaphysical phenomena. It is a complete civilization. -- [W.A.R. Gibb - Whither Islam]

Mohammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him. -- [Diwan Chand Sharma - The Prophets of the East]

The greatest crime, the greatest 'sin' of Mohammad in the eyes of the Christian West is that he did not allow himself to be slaughtered, to be 'crucified' by his enemies. He only defended himself, his family and his followers; and finally vanquished his enemies. Mohammad's success is the Christians' gall of disappointment: He did not believe in any vicarious sacrifices for the sins of others. -- [Edward Gibbon]

The greatest success of Mohammad's life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword. -- [Edward Gibbon]

The towering personality of Muhammad has left bright and indelible imprints on all mankind. -- [John William Draper - The Intellectual Development of Europe]

The man who of all men exercised the greatest influence upon the human race--Muhammad. -- [John William Draper]

Among leaders who have made the greatest impact through ages, I would consider Muhammad before Jesus Christ. -- [James Gavin, Speeches of a U.S. Army General]

A man of truth and fidelity, true in what he did, in what he speaks and thought - this is the only sort of speech worth speaking. -- [Sir Thomas Carlyle, British author]

The lies that we (Christians) have heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only. -- [Thomas Carlyle]

The word of Mohammad is a voice direct from nature's own heart - all else is wind in comparison. -- [Thomas Carlyle]

I like Muhammad for his hypocrisy-free nature �咸ith clear and sound words he addresses the Roman Tsars and Kings of Persia. He guides them to what he loves for them in this life and in the eternal life. -- [Thomas Carlyle]

He was the Messenger of the One True God: And never to his life's end did he forget for a moment who he was! He was one of those happy few who have attained the supreme joy of making one great truth their very life-spring. -- [Stanley Lane Poole, British Orientalist and Archaeologist]

Mohammad was an enthusiast in the noblest sense. -- [Stanley Lane Poole]

The height of human achievement and glory, Mohammad. -- [Pringle Kennedy - Arabian Society at the Time of Mohammad]

If I were in his presence, I would wash his feet. -- [Hercules, the Great Roman Emperor]

Muhammad was the greatest personality who established a state for justice and tolerance. -- [George Wells, English author]

Muhammad is the greatest man that history ever knew. -- [Gustav Lobon, French historian]

If we rated the greatness by the influence of the great on people we will say ��Muhammad is the greatest of the great in history. -- [Will Durant, author of the Story of Civilization]

The critics are blind. They cannot see that the only 'sword' Muhammad wielded was the sword of mercy, compassion, friendship and forgiveness - the sword that conquers enemies and purifies their hearts. His sword was sharper than the sword of steel. But the biased critics of Islam are prejudicial and partisan, who are narrow minded and whose eyes are covered by a veil of ignorance. They see fire instead of light, ugliness instead of beauty and evil instead of good. They distort and present every good quality as a great vice. It reflects their own depravity. -- [Pandit Gyanandra Dev Sharma Shastri]

In the beginning the Prophet's enemies made life difficult for him and his followers. So the Prophet asked his followers to leave their homes and migrate to Medina. He preferred migration to fighting his own people, but when oppression went beyond the pale of tolerance he took up his sword in self-defense. Those who believe religion can be spread by force are fools who neither know the ways of religion nor the ways of the world. They are proud of this belief because they are a long, long way away from the Truth. -- [Sikh Journalist, Nawan Hindustan]

It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to how I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher. -- [Dr. Annie Besant - The Life and Teachings of Mohammad]

Of all the world's greatest men none has been so much maligned as Muhammad. It is easy to see how this has come about. For centuries Islam was the great enemy of Christendom, for Christendom was in direct contact with no other organized states comparable in power to the Muslims. -- [William Montgomery Watt]

In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumors of God ’s personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced, "An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human being." At Muhammad's own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: "If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever." -- [James A. Michener]

It was the genius of Muhammad, the spirit that he breathed into the Arabs through the soul of Islam that exalted them. That raised them out of the lethargy and low level of tribal stagnation up to the high watermark of national unity and empire. It was in the sublimity of Muhammad's deism, the simplicity, the sobriety and purity it inculcated the fidelity of its founder to his own tenets that acted on their moral and intellectual fiber with all the magnetism of true inspiration. -- [Arthur Glyn Leonard - Islam, Her Moral and Spiritual Values]

He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source. In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints. -- [Washington Irving - Mahomet and His Successors]

The principles of universal brotherhood and doctrine of the equality of mankind which he proclaimed represents one very great contribution of Mohammad to the social uplift of humanity. All great religions have preached the same doctrine but the prophet of Islam had put this theory into actual practice and its value will be fully recognized, perhaps centuries hence, when international consciousness being awakened, racial prejudices may disappear and greater brotherhood of humanity come into existence. -- [Prof. K. S. Ramakrishna Rao]

An honest man, as the saying goes, is the noblest work of God, Mohammad was more than honest. He was human to the marrow of his bones. Human sympathy, human love was the music of his soul. To serve man, to elevate man, to purify man, to educate man, in a word to humanize man - this was the object of his mission, the be-all and end all of his life. In thought, in word, in action he had the good of humanity as his sole inspiration, his sole guiding principle. -- [Prof. K. S. Ramakrishna Rao]

Ever since the Crusades, people in the west have seen the prophet Muhammad as a sinister figure. During the 12th century, Christians were fighting brutal holy wars against Muslims, even though Jesus had told his followers to love their enemies, not to exterminate them. The scholar monks of Europe stigmatised Muhammad as a cruel warlord who established the false religion of Islam by the sword. They also, with ill-concealed envy, berated him as a lecher and sexual pervert at a time when the popes were attempting to impose celibacy on the reluctant clergy. Our Islamophobia became entwined with our chronic anti-Semitism; Jews and Muslims, the victims of the crusaders, became the shadow self of Europe, the enemies of decent civilisation and the opposite of "us". -- [Karen Armstrong]
And thou standest (oh MUhammad!) on an exalted standard of character. GLORIOUS QURAN 68.4
Jews and Christians join the Muslims in prayer
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wassalaam
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muharram23

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Thank you Humble Wun! You proved my point about that prayer not being shirk as per Massi in a previous post. So by my still reciting that prayer at times, I am not doing anything wrong......it is the way Jesus instructed us to pray to God and the words bear no wrong or false truths......

Salamu alaykum

I think sister you really need to double check your islaam. When someone becomes a muslim with saying the two shehadas "baring witness that there is no diety worthy of worship except Allah alone without any partners and that Muhammad svs is His slave and messenger" a person therfore leaves alone everything that they used to do before islaam and submit themselves with whatever islaam wants from them. Sister, you can not do in islaam part of this and part of that. You can't do some islaam and then do some of christianity. NO, you believe and follow islaam the way that Allah sva has revealed it and tought His prophet and then the way the companions have tought and spread the islaam.

In one narrration, the prophet muhammad pbuh told his companions that even if moses was alive, he would have to follow whatever muhammad svs was teaching. There are 5 prophets that are on the highest rank. Abraham, noah, moses, jesus and muhammd pbuh. Muhammad is the leader of all the prophets. When prophet muhammad pbuh was taken to the heavens on "isra and mi'araaj" he svs prayed in mosque al-aqsa, leading the prayer and all the prophets were behind him. Gabriel, told muhammad svs to lead. That shows muhammad's svs superiority over other prophets.

For you to say that you still feel better about loving jesus than muhammad svs, is really wrong, and that is why you should check ur islaaam. We do love jesus pbuh as he as one of greatest prophets may peace and blessing be upon him but muhammad pbuh is the prophet of this time and we need to love him and love his message.

Also you mentioned that you feel more happier praying in church than in a mosque. I really dont understand you. You love the places of shirk (polyheism) where people worship jesus, saints, have pictures and idols everywhere over a mosque which is made only for the pleasure of worshiping Allah alone. I believe that you might have some serious shirk (poleitheistic) believe, and it could take you out of islaam. It is very important that you repent to ALlah sva and start worshiping Him the way He tought us through His prophet.

You can not love ALlah better than by following that which islaam came with. We can not worship Allah the way we want to. Just like you can't do ur job at work the way you want, but the way ur boss wants you to.

May Allah sva forgive me and guide us all to his right path.

Also, be careful what you talk about here on the forum. Most of your statements on this thread were as if you were trying to make those non-muslims not accept islaam.

So, i encourage you to learn about islaam if you really believe it is the right path. Hopefully, your intention was sincere when u accepted islaam and not for something else.

This thread is closed!

Allah knows best

wasaalaam
 
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