Is it Haram to be FAT?

kiana

Junior Member
I know a Muslim family and their daughters suffer from hypothyroidism and all of them are obese

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothyroidism

No fault of their own or over eating and off course they can't get married!

salamu alaykam, this is good topic. i have hypothyroidism but my doctor he give me synthetic thyroid hormones to take and i feel hamd walshukr ilaah good and healthy.i believe one must keep her BMI to the normal range and keep sunnah be eating 1/3 of food and 1/3 water. this is no excuse to sit home everyday and gain weight and blame it on medical problems! one sister here say moderation is good...I very agree! every man today wants to marry healthy and fit girl. be honest with you self.
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
salamu alaykam, this is good topic. i have hypothyroidism but my doctor he give me synthetic thyroid hormones to take and i feel hamd walshukr ilaah good and healthy.i believe one must keep her BMI to the normal range and keep sunnah be eating 1/3 of food and 1/3 water. this is no excuse to sit home everyday and gain weight and blame it on medical problems! one sister here say moderation is good...I very agree! every man today wants to marry healthy and fit girl. be honest with you self.

Salam alaykum dear sister.

Of course every man wants to get health wife but he should this she is pious lady, not what she looks like. Many women look too much to the mirrow and worry what others think about they body. We should worry what Allah thinks about our hearts and souls.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

Let us not delude ourselves into thinking that beauty is restricted to weight.

Who said obese people sit at home and indulge?

Let us not make the mistake that spirituality is being thin. Misers can be very thin.

I know people who exercise, watch the diets, and are pious but happen to be heavy. What about age and women. Some women after middle age become big some get to be very thin.

There are genetic markers for obesity. Obesity and laziness are not synonyms. Piety and being slender are not synonyms.

Do not judge a gift by its wrappings.

Did Allah subhana wa taala tell us He created variety to show us our uniformity.
 

John Smith

Junior Member
If someone can help finding the Hadith of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) regarding chewing your food as much as possible before swallowing as its easier on the digestive sytem and you reap more benefit from your sustenance.

The quicker you eat your food the more likely you are to gain weight,in modern times as we are all involved in the rat race everything is go go go,no time for qualilty left,especially enjoying a decent lunch break.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

The amount of food you intake does not necessarily mean you will be obese.

Yes, we do not take time to eat a proper lunch. We do not chew our food as much as we need. The nasty fast foods and high fructose corn syrup and the genetically modified foods do stall our metabolic system.

For many buying healthy foods is economically impossible. The nasty foods are cheaper.

Many people are uneducated about nutrition. They will buy the boxed meal. Our times make it harder on people to cook using the basics. Now, we have crazy laws that make it illegal for many to grow their gardens.

The dependence of the pills of BigPhrama also have consequences on health and weight. You eat the poisoned genetically engineered food and grow tumors. You take pills that keep you in a drugged state.
 

kiana

Junior Member
If someone can help finding the Hadith of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) regarding chewing your food as much as possible before swallowing as its easier on the digestive sytem and you reap more benefit from your sustenance.

The quicker you eat your food the more likely you are to gain weight,in modern times as we are all involved in the rat race everything is go go go,no time for qualilty left,especially enjoying a decent lunch break.

asalama alaykam,my brother i agree! i give you another positive rep for this. everyone is prone to be fat. the ones who stay home and not jog, not ride bicycle, eat too fast and eat too much become fat. people who are go to gym to work out will defeat this fatness. people who eat healthy salad, protein no carb, no fat, will notice healthier body. Prevent diabetes, heart disease, bone joint disease, stroke, cancer, hi blood pressure, sleep apnea, death. if smoking is haram because it causes us to develop diseases such as cancer, then fat is haram too because it gives more diseases. even if aapa say she have fat gene, does not mean she can stay home and chat on forum all day and not take jog or walk we are not fat cow. wallahualadeem this is not excuse!
 

John Smith

Junior Member
Islam treats obesity








It is the disease of this era which exhausts the resources of countries; did Islam get any treatment for that disease? Let us read…


What is obesity?

Obesity is defined as abnormal or excessive fat accumulation that presents a risk to health. A crude population measure of obesity is the body mass index (BMI), a person’s weight (in kilograms) divided by the square of his or her height (in meters).

A person with a BMI of 30 or more is generally considered obese. A person with a BMI equal to or more than 25 is considered overweight.

Overweight and obesity are major risk factors for a number of chronic diseases, including diabetes, cardiovascular diseases and cancer. Once considered a problem only in high income countries, overweight and obesity are now dramatically on the rise in low- and middle-income countries, particularly in urban settings.

Facts about obesity

According to the figures of the world health organization (WHO) in 2005 approximately 1.6 billion adults (age 15+) were overweight and at least 400 million adults were obese.

WHO projects that by 2015, approximately 2.3 billion adults will be overweight and more than 700 million will be obese and at least 20 million children under the age of 5 years are overweight globally in 2005.

Causes of obesity

The fundamental cause of obesity and overweight is an energy imbalance between calories consumed on one hand, and calories expended on the other hand. Global increases in overweight and obesity are attributable to a number of factors including a global shift in diet towards increased intake of energy-dense foods that are high in fat and sugars but low in vitamins, minerals and other micronutrients; and a trend towards decreased physical activity due to the increasingly sedentary nature of many forms of work, changing modes of transportation, and increasing urbanization.




What are the consequences of obesity?

Overweight and obesity lead to serious health consequences. Risk increases progressively as BMI increases. Raised body mass index is a major risk factor for chronic diseases such as:

· Cardiovascular disease (mainly heart disease and stroke) - already the world's number one cause of death, killing 17 million people each year.

· Diabetes – which has rapidly become a global epidemic. WHO projects that diabetes death will increase by more than 50% worldwide in the next 10 years.

· Musculoskeletal disorders – especially osteoarthritis.

· Some cancers (endometrial, breast, and colon).

Obesity is the coming danger

"The rising tide of overweight and obese people is the most significant public and personal health challenge facing our society. With concerted action across government and with wide "says Alan Johnson the British secretary of state for health. He added" With concerted action across government and with wide institutional support aligned to personal responsibility, I am confident we can do what no other country has yet done and reverse the obesity trend."



Obesity and heart diseases

In a new study it was proved that the percentage of overweight and obese adults in the United States has increased over the past two decades — undermining efforts to reduce heart disease risk factors. Also the rising obesity is associated with the lower likelihood of having optimal blood pressure and blood sugar levels. Another study indicates that weight loss may correct structural heart damage in obese patients.

The researchers analyzed data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) from 1988–2006, representing 8,264 adult men and women, 20 to 85 years old. All had complete risk factor profiles of their blood pressure, fasting glucose, low density lipoprotein (LDL or “bad” cholesterol) and smoking status.

The researchers had found that during this time period, the average body mass index (BMI) increased from 26.5 to 28.8 kg/m2, a significant change. In the same period, the number of people with optimal blood pressure decreased from 48 percent in NHANES III, 1988–94, to 43 percent in NHANES in 2005–06, and the number of people with optimal fasting glucose decreased from 67 percent to 58 percent. Both blood pressure and blood glucose are closely linked to obesity and these adverse trends track with the change in body weight.

Another study was funded by the Donald W. Reynolds Foundation (Las Vegas, Nevada) demonstrates a stronger association of WHR (waist-to-hip ratio) with subclinical atherosclerosis as compared with BMI or WC (waist circumference) in a large, population-based cohort.

In analyses adjusted for cardiovascular risk factors, WHR remained independently associated with atherosclerosis. Waist-to-hip ratio showed better discrimination of atherosclerosis than either BMI or WC.

These findings support the use of WC and WHR over BMI as clinical measures of obesity and suggest that an increased burden of atherosclerosis may explain in part the excess cardiovascular risk among persons with obesity.




Photo for a sick heart, scientists confirm that obesity increase the probability of infection by Heart disease, people must take care of their bodies and weight.

Obesity and diabetes

Doctors believe that obesity is probably the most important factor in the development of insulin resistance, but science's understanding of the chain of events is still spotty.

Now, researchers at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies have filled in the gap and identified the missing link between the two. Their findings, to be published in the June 21, 2009 advance online edition of the journal Nature, explain how obesity sets the stage for diabetes.



The Salk team, led by Marc Montminy, Ph.D., a professor in the Clayton Foundation Laboratories for Peptide Biology, discovered how a condition known as ER (endoplasmic reticulum) stress, which is induced by a high fat diet and is overly activated in obese people, triggers aberrant glucose production in the liver, an important step on the path to insulin resistance.

In healthy people, a "fasting switch" only flips on glucose production when blood glucose levels run low during fasting. "The existence of a second cellular signaling cascade—like an alternate route from A to B—that can modulate glucose production, presents the potential to identify new classes of drugs that might help to lower blood sugar by disrupting this alternative pathway," says Montminy.

It had been well established that obesity promotes insulin resistance through the inappropriate inactivation of a process called gluconeogenesis, where the liver creates glucose for fuel and which ordinarily occurs only in times of fasting. Yet, not all obese people become insulin resistant, and insulin resistance occurs in non-obese individuals, leading Montminy and his colleagues to suspect that fasting-induced glucose production was only half the story.

Overweighting leads to dementia

"Healthy nutrition and periodic fasting activate brain" Says Hanz diteleyv Vasman director of the Department of Neurosurgery at University of Münster hospital. Also he confirms that calories restriction prevent disorders in the brain's functions and reduces the possibility of dementia.

He added that researches proved that healthy and low calories foods which are full of the fatty acid(omega3 ) increase the efficiency of delivering signals in the brain.






Obesity is a huge risk factor for Alzheimer's disease, scientists say...



"Obesity is a huge risk factor for Alzheimer's disease" says Professor Clive Ballard director of research at the Alzheimer's Society. He added "People who are obese at 60 are twice as likely to develop dementia by the time they are 75."And he says "If we're not careful, it might be 2m or 2.5m people who have dementia in 50 years. This is a real opportunity to reduce the numbers." And he confirms that the research had shown a regular exercise and a healthy diet could substantially reduce the risk.

The nutrition system and Longevity

A study had been published in nature magazine which confirmed that there is a relation between the nutrition system and Longevity (Muslims don't believe in that otherwise we believe that healthy nutrition is a reason behind longevity).

The said study demonstrated the importance of keeping natural weight to get longevity as the protein (IRS2) affects the transmitting of insulin to brain cells.

Prof/ Maurice White at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute says that a simple way to get longevity is the reducing of insulin in blood by practicing sports and following a healthy nutrition system so that the brain will be less exposed to insulin.

Eating much raise prices

Today, scientists believe that obesity has a bad effect on the global food crisis and the environmental changes as obese people are consuming calories 18% than the natural average.




Researchers say that consuming much food means more fuel consuming to produce more foods, also obese people needs transportation methods to move which needs more fuel and money. Phil Edwards one of those researchers say that the only way to reduce pollution and fuel consumption is to make people walk and move by riding bicycles also by reducing the use of cars.

Treatment from the Qur'an and Sunnah

as usual Allah almighty in His holy book preceded all scientists and researchers in solving different humanity's problems as He says: (and eat and drink but waste not by extravagance, certainly He (Allah) likes not Al-Musrifûn (those who waste by extravagance)) (Sûrat Al-A‘râf-verse31), here Allah almighty tells us that extravagance in foods and drink is a sin that should be avoided by us.

In Islam Allah almighty ordered us to make a balances in all things even in food and drink as He almighty says about believers and the slaves of God: (And those who, when they spend, are neither extravagant nor niggardly, but hold a medium (way) between those (extremes).)(Sûrat Al-Furqân-verse67).

In many verses Allah almighty advice us not to extravagance as He says: (And it is He who produces gardens trellised and untrellised, and date-palms, and crops of different shape and taste (their fruits and their seeds) and olives, and pomegranates, similar (in kind) and different (in taste). Eat of their fruit when they ripen, but pay the due thereof (its Zakât according to Allah's Orders 1/10th or 1/20th) on the day of its harvest, and waste not by extravagance. Verily, He likes not Al-Musrifûn (those who waste by extravagance),*. And of the cattle (are some) for burden (like camels) and (some are) small (unable to carry burden like sheep and goats - for food, meat, milk and wool). Eat of what Allah has provided for you, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan). Surely he is to you an open enemy.)(Sûrat Al-An’âm-verse141-142).

On the other hand the prophet (peace be upon him) asks us not to eat too much as he says: (A human being has not filled any vessel which is worse than a belly. Enough for the son of Adam are some mouthfuls which can keep his back straight: but if there is no escape he should fill it a third with food, a third with drink, and leave a third empty)[Narrated by At-Tirmidhi].

this prophetic rule is considered to be one of the basics of modern medicine which demonstrates the sincerity of our Prophet and that all what he says is by inspiration from Allah not by himself!.

Treatment by walking to the mosques

Abu Hurayrah may Allah be pleased with him said that Messenger of God peace be upon him said to his companions (do you want to be guided to what will erase your sins and raise your levels with your God, they said yes then the prophet said you have to perform the ritual ablution very well, to be keen to walk to the mosques and to always be awaiting for prayer this is the bond) [Narrated by Muslim].

Don't you believe that if we follow these advices, the entire world will be better than now?



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By: Abduldaem Al-Kaheel

www.kaheel7.com/eng
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alikum,

But there are gentic markings for obesity that are being studied. Not all but some people do have genetic predispositions. Please check the latest from the CDC.

Kiana, Please apologize, Your comments on my reputation are not becoming a Mulsim. I am not a fat cow. I fail to understand how calling me a fat cow has anything to do with this topic.
 

John Smith

Junior Member
Assalaam alikum,

But there are gentic markings for obesity that are being studied. Not all but some people do have genetic predispositions. Please check the latest from the CDC.

Kiana, Please apologize, Your comments on my reputation are not becoming a Mulsim. I am not a fat cow. I fail to understand how calling me a fat cow has anything to do with this topic.


Steady! she never called you out as a fat cow.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,


Lets stay serious. There are millions of people who are obese. In many places there is a positive correlation between obesity and poverty. People eat unhealthy food because it is cheaper. The nasty foods are also addictive.

I just watched a show on a sect of Jainist. The monks who eat one meal a day standing up, many with no clothes, fed by females, were obese. Go figure.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
assalamu alaykum,

Lifestyle is a big issue, - Genes do not simply make a person fat, its the way they live that does so.

A healthy diet and regular excercise does wonders.

wasalam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

Good to see you.

And we need to have the schools going back to include physical fitness in the curriculum.

But, there are environmental factors and poverty. Samoans are very large people and proud of the body type. The CDC is starting to investigate the genetic markers for obesity.
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Salam aleikum

I think the title of the thread is not the correct one.
Maybe is better if the question is: Is it haram to indulge in unhealthy food ...or indulge in food in general ?
And the hadith tells us to leave room in the stomach and to be moderate.

Leaving aside the people with diseases that have as consequence gaining weight, it is our choice how we treat our body.

The kids should be teached how and what to eat, there are increasing numbers of children with weight problems...so the parents must be aware in the first place.

May Allah guide us to be responsible.
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
Salam alaykum

Easiest way to avoid become too fat:

Don´t eat when you are not hungry. Go out to run or walk everyday.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

Sister,

So true. I have taught nutrition classes. I actually took people to the grocery stores. Back in the old days they had classes in high school on Home Eonomics. They would teach how to prepare meals. They would teach how to cook using basic ingredients. It is an art and skill.

Over here a family of four can go to a fast food place and eat for $8.00. It is hot and ready. You have to think and plan to feed a family of four a meal for eight dollars. It can be done, but it takes time. It means cooking for a long period of time. It takes commitment.

It used to be a family would eat meat on Sundays only. The rest of the week were beans and veggies. We were taught to chew our food 32 times. You did not drink during the meal. You would drink water before the meal and after the meal.

However, in the cycle of poverty, generations upon generations in the US, there are some segments that have high incidences of obesity and depression to exacerbate the poverty.
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
Assalaam alaikum,

Sister,

So true. I have taught nutrition classes. I actually took people to the grocery stores. Back in the old days they had classes in high school on Home Eonomics. They would teach how to prepare meals. They would teach how to cook using basic ingredients. It is an art and skill.

Over here a family of four can go to a fast food place and eat for $8.00. It is hot and ready. You have to think and plan to feed a family of four a meal for eight dollars. It can be done, but it takes time. It means cooking for a long period of time. It takes commitment.

It used to be a family would eat meat on Sundays only. The rest of the week were beans and veggies. We were taught to chew our food 32 times. You did not drink during the meal. You would drink water before the meal and after the meal.

However, in the cycle of poverty, generations upon generations in the US, there are some segments that have high incidences of obesity and depression to exacerbate the poverty.

Salam alaykum

I understand this. Schools should teach kids to understand what is health food and what is not.
 
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