No sir I'm not missing the point.
With due respect to you, its you that is going round and round in circles and not willing to find the point.
Surely you can understand what YESHUA is alluding to. No one is perfect and we are not in a position to judge each other - we're all sinful. YESHUA ain't. He is the only person in a position to throw stones. Not us.
you can`t even answer a simple question and you wanna go through theologie speculations trust me it would be too easy to prove you from your own 27 plus different bibles that that you are wrong i would rather let your own theologians do it JOHN HICK ,PAUL SChwarznau,hans küng and gerd lüdemann...............etc read some of them for you own information and you will be surprised!of what`s being hidden from you!but just answer the question right now use your fantasy now that it`s right on track!
INTHE NAME OF ALLAH THRE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL
"WOE TO THOSE WHO WRITE THE SCRIPTURES WITH THEIR OWN HANDS AND THEN SAY"THIS IS FROM ALLAH"THAT THEY MAY TAKE IT FOR A PALTRY PRICE;WOE TO THEM FOR WHAT THEIR HAND HAVE WRITTEN AND WOE TO THEM OF WHAT THEY EARN"sura baquara 2:79
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL
"OH PEOPLE OF THE BOOK HERE HATH COME TO YO OUR MESSENGER REVEALING TO YOU MUCH THAT YE USED TO HIDE IN THE BOOK PASSING OVER MUCH(THAT IS UNNECESSARY)THERE HAS COME TO YOU A (NEW) LIGHT FROM ALLAH A LIGHT AND A PERSPICUOS BOOK!"SURA MAIDA 5:15
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL
" OH PEOPLE OF THE BOOK! NOW HATH COME INTO YOU OUR MESSENGER
AFTER THE BREAK OUR MESSENGERS; LEST YE SHOULD SAY"THERE CAME UNTO US NO BRINGER OF GLAD TIDING AND A WARNER...."SURA MAIDA 5:19
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENEFICIENT THE MERCIFUL
" AND IF YOU WERE IN DOUBT TO WHAT WE HAVE REVEALD TO OUR SERVANT THEN BRING FORTH A BOOK LIKE THE QURAN AND ASK YOUR WITNESSES TO PROVE IT CONTRARY TO ALLAH IF WERE TRUTHFUL, IF YOU CAN NOT AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE;SO BEWARE OF THE FIRE THAT IS PREPARED FOR THE BLASPHEMERS.."SURA BAQAR 2:23
ps: the message is clear and simple don`t loose your time in vain talks and lower down that self destructive ego search and ask in a constructive manner instead of commenting all the time do it for yourself for god`s sake !!how much more love do you want me to show you man!!!!!! you can train on somebody else !!!and you"ll have to wake up early for that very very very early
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