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As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
who says acctuelly that if i am a hanafi i am not allowed to read the books of shafii or maliki or its not good for us as a hanafi followers?
Precisely..They are fiqh imams....Common....I agree with Junaid Hasan
who says acctuelly that if i am a hanafi i am not allowed to read the books of shafii or maliki or its not good for us as a hanafi followers?
who says acctuelly that if i am a hanafi i am not allowed to read the books of shafii or maliki or its not good for us as a hanafi followers?
if i will big shiekh as other salafi brother then i will feel no more importent to follow hadiths which is shown by imams.
for that reason i follow the hadiths and quran which is shown by imam hanafi,
not his own dialouges.
:salam2: I dont follow any particular imam. I follow the Quran and Sunnah.
The following dates of birth of these personalities will indicate who the Salaf actually are:
Imaam Abu Hanifah 80 Hijri
Imaam Maalik 94 Hijri
Imaam Shaafi 150 Hijri
Imaam Hambal 164 Hijri.
All four illustrious Imaams of the Mathaahib belonged to the initial noble epoch of Islam, hence all are among the Salaf-e-Salihoon whose obedience is commanded by the Qur’aan and Hadith.
Ibn Taimiyyah was born in 661 Hijri, almost six centuries after Imaam Abu Hanifah.
Ibn Qayyim was born in 691 Hijri, more than 600 years after Imaam Abu Hanifah. Thus, these two Imaams of the salafi sect are separated from the age of the Salaf-e-Saalihoon by six centuries. Inspite of this great gap between the Salaf-e-Saalihoon and the Imaams of the salafi sect
The Qur’aan commands:
“O People of Imaan! Obey Allah, obey the Rasool and the Ulool Amr among you.”
The Ulool Amr (the Leaders) mentioned in this Qur’aanic verse apply in the first instance to the Sahaabah, next to the Taabioon and then to the Tab-e-Taabioon. These are the three illustrious groups of the Sunnah singled out for obedience by Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam). He, therefore said:
“The best of ages is my age, then the next age and then the age following.”
Speaking glowingly of the Salaf-e-Saalihoon, the Qur’aan Majeed says:
“Those who went ahead first (the Sahaabah) among the Muhaajireen and Ansaar, and those who followed them with goodness, Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him….” (Aayat 100, Surah Taubah)
Allah Ta’ala expresses His pleasure with these Salaf-e-Saalihoon, yet the salafis of this age deem it appropriate to condemn the Ummah and brand them blind for making Taqleed of the Salaf-e-Saalihoon.
Taqleed of the Salaf, the salafi sect takes its cue from Ibn Taimiyyah and mainly from Ibn Qayyim, the student of Ibn Taimiyyah, both of whom were not part of the Salaf-e-Saalihoon.
yes right brother its not good and we should not blame the imams of madhab or something false about them because of those people who boycoted others. for example a brother quote that the suffis follow madhab.does it mean that they have any proof that they are right?if kadiani group says that they follow hanafi madhab .does it mean that they are right or have their proofs?the olamas of all 4 imams they know better about this topics.ok, so u asked who "says u r not allowed to read books from other madhaahib?" some people from 1 madhab have "boycoted" others. Of course that is not the right way
about the proof?there are 1000 olama´s who are here to proof the strongness of hadith.if there was something wrong among the imams they had said that this imam are not in the right path. all the imams have their proofs of hadith and they also agree with other imams.if an imam doesn´t have stronger proof its also doesn´t mean that the imams are innovators or? may be not stronger but also not something new which is innovation.and each and every hadiths are enough to bring us in paradies.there are 3-4 boats to cross the river and i need only one boat to cross the river not all those 4 rivers.to cross the the river only one boat enough.as a very weak muslim to follow one madhabs enough.but there are a lot of salafi brothers who give us advice or try to prove that there are also able to choose hadiths like those imams. because these salafi brothers are able to decied which is good for them selves like other big mashaikhs. i know not every salafi brothers are like that.then they tell us to also be like they but its not possible for a very weak muslim like me to decied hadiths which one is better for me.But because they blindly follow 1 imaam, they do not intend to follow another despite the other might bring stronger proof. ]
yes brother i know and also agree with that. the salafi brothers are most genious sheikhs of this fitna time.the imams were so pieous but they couldn´t find the stronger proof of hadiths but the salafi brothers did it and i feel also good that they have a lot of time to learn about islam and to get the stronger proof hadiths which those 4 imams couldn´t.Then the statement you made: if u were salafi, you would not feel its important to follow hadeeth shown by the 4 imaams. That is a misconception about salafiyyah brother! Instead, salafis do that opposite, they take from all 4 imaams, and whoever has the stronger proof is obviously closer to the sunnah.
i have always ask the some brothers who said that we follow imams blindly.but what does it mean?we sould follow imams if they have evidence from quran and hadith.And shouldn´t we follow quran and sunnah blindly?And lastly you said you follow quran and sunnah by Imam Abu Haneefa and not his dialogues. I'm not sure what u mean by this ... imaam Abu Haneefa's dialogues/ advise were full of wisdom, and there is no reason to reject them unless it goes against the quran and sunnah..
I feel there is a sea of misconceptions covering the idea about salafis. I feel it needs clarification but feel its useless after typing so much and yet very few understanding is gained on the other side ... or maybe its just that new people come and ask the same thing all the time??
Jihan I think you are confused and do not understand fully the issues .Take a look at this article
http://www.cometoislam.com/fiqh/question1.htm
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JazaakAllah hafz, i have read the article. I appreciate that you are willing to share your knowledge and point of view with me. A muslim should always try to correct another muslim; which is obviously your intention. But even after reading that I was still convinced on my original view: takng from each imam what corresponded with the quran and sunnah and leaving out any contradictions. In the article it mentioned that this was bad because someone would just try to take from each imam what ever pleased them and seemed easy to follow; which of course would mean that you were not basing your decision on the Quran and sunnah, but rather your own desire. i agree with you that that of course is not what anybody should do, they should have the quran and sunnah as their base. but that doesn't mean they should follow one madhab. but rather the the opposite and pick from every imam what ever echos the quran and sunnah and let be all that defies them. like i said before even the imams said follow in me what ever is part of the quran and sunna and reject all that is not. meaning that each madhab is not perfect and it lacks something, so InshAllah another imam might have had a strong point in that area.
sorry i have more to say and i have not finished my point but i go to go. but all in all JazakAllah for sharing it had some strong points as well as what i would consider weak point. again i hope i have not mistaken and Allahu 'alam.
Asalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh
What was the Madhab of Abu-Bakr or Umar or Uthman or Ali (Radi Allaho un Hum)?
Any Madhab which can not provide irrefutable EVIDENCE from the Quran and Verfiably authentic hadith of Rasul Allah (SWS) is an innovation. Follow that and confirm your place with the disbelievers.
May Allah give us all wisdom to recognize and diffrentiate the Truth from the fabricated or weak hadiths.