Need an explanation about the 73 sects please

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muslimah_mtl

AlhamduliLlah
Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatuLlah

I hope your all in the best of health and eeman :)

The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The Jews split into seventy-one sects; one will be in Paradise (i.e., those who followed Moses) and seventy will be in the Fire. The Christians split into seventy-two sects; seventy-one will be in the Fire and one will be in Paradise (i.e., those who followed Jesus). And by the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, this Ummah (nation) of mine will split into seventy-three sects; one will be in Paradise and seventy-two will be in the Fire. It was asked, "Who are they, O Messenger of Allah?" He (peace be upon him) said, "Al-Jama'ah (i.e., the group which adheres steadfastly to the way of the Prophet, peace be upon him, and his Companions)." And in another narration: "(Those who follow) what I and my Companions are following."

I would like to know if the Ummah splits into 73 sects before or after Imam Mahdi comes?
Is there already 73 sects?

JazaakumuLlahu khayran
May Allah bless you all

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ahmed_indian

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:salam2:,

as i understand it will be before coming of Imam Mehdi. Bcoz after his coming, the muslims will unite on Quran and sunnah.

73 does not necessarily mean 73. i could also mean 'many'.

and yes u can see those deviated sects like 'nation of islam', 'ahmadiyya', 'submitters', grave worshippers, ppl of taweez, celebrating prophet's birthday, etc.
 

Almeftah

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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

If you read the holy quran, You'll find the mentioning of Parties many times as to be a bad thing for the nation. Parties cause people to hate and fight eachother because it leads to extremism in most cases.

There's only one good Party or Sect Allah mentioned in His Book as the winning party..

And whosoever takes Allâh, His Messenger, and those who have believed, as Protectors, then the party of Allâh will be the victorious.[] (2:56)

You (O Muhammad SAW) will not find any people who believe in Allâh and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allâh and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), even though they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rûh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow to dwell therein (forever). Allâh is pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allâh. Verily, it is the Party of Allâh that will be the successful. (58:22)

This winning Party is of people who are firm in faith, following Shari'a of islam without trying to find gaps in Islamic laws that meet thier desires or pleasures. Aiming to ONLY please Allah as he wills by following His Shari'a and the Sunnah of his prophet [SAW],
Despite of what they may please or desire, No matter how hard it is.

And from what we see, hear or read now adays about many of our muslim brothers and sisters being mislead and drifted wth this life by ignorence of fake scholars, I'd say this winning party is very small in number, compared to the total number of muslims world wide.


May Allah make us of them, and place us along in paradise.
 

Muawiyah

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:salam2: muslimah_mtl


Could you please quote references in terms of page and hadith no and from where you had found this hadith as i find it quite useful in my journey of ensuring Ahlus Sunnah and Shia'ism contains a major differentiation. I am currently in a discussion with a shia student in my school.

Jazakallah.

:wasalam:
 

muslimah_mtl

AlhamduliLlah
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JazaakumuLlahu khayral jaza'i for all your answers. It's very useful. May Allah bless you all



:salam2: muslimah_mtl


Could you please quote references in terms of page and hadith no and from where you had found this hadith as i find it quite useful in my journey of ensuring Ahlus Sunnah and Shia'ism contains a major differentiation. I am currently in a discussion with a shia student in my school.

Jazakallah.

:wasalam:

Wa alaykumu salaamu wa rahmatuLlahi wa barkaaatuh

Here's the link

http://alifta.net/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?View=Page&PageID=4&PageNo=1&BookID=8

InshaAllah you'll find it useful.

Wa salamu alaykum
 

muharram23

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:salam2:,

as i understand it will be before coming of Imam Mehdi. Bcoz after his coming, the muslims will unite on Quran and sunnah.

73 does not necessarily mean 73. i could also mean 'many'.

and yes u can see those deviated sects like 'nation of islam', 'ahmadiyya', 'submitters', grave worshippers, ppl of taweez, celebrating prophet's birthday, etc.

salamu alaykum

Ahmadiysh and nation of Islam are kufar. They don't even fall in the 73 sects of Islam. Ahnadiyyah belive mirza ghulam was the prophet after Muhammad saws. Nation of Islam belive alijah muhammad is the prophet
. they all just hide behind the name of Islam so they are known or so they can attend Muslim massjids and take money for their purposes.

Wassalam
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
salamu alaykum

Ahmadiysh and nation of Islam are kufar. They don't even fall in the 73 sects of Islam. Ahnadiyyah belive mirza ghulam was the prophet after Muhammad saws. Nation of Islam belive alijah muhammad is the prophet
. they all just hide behind the name of Islam so they are known or so they can attend Muslim massjids and take money for their purposes.

Wassalam

but brother, there are many types of deviated sects. some get out of the fold of islam, but commit innovations and some major sins.
 

abu'muhammad

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The following writing may be useful in understanding the matter. Its not giving the answer of the question of how many sects there are today yet good information about 'ahlus sunnah wal jamaah'- the saved sect and the other deviant sects.


With regard to differences which you see between the Muslim nowadays, Allaah has not left the people confused and unable to distinguish the true from the false, rather Allaah has created signs by which the truth and those who are sincere may be known, and He has created clear evidence and proof for the correct path, from which no one deviates but he is doomed.

When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke of the ummah splitting into seventy-three groups, he said that they would all be in Hell apart from one, the one which follows the same path as him and his companions. This is the standard, so we have no choice but follow in the footsteps of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). It is not sufficient for a person to quote a hadeeth and say that it is saheeh, then use that as evidence to support his madhhab or his point of view according to his own understanding of that hadeeth; rather what he should do is to research whether the Sahaabah understood this hadeeth in this manner or not.

This is the criterion which divides those who really follow the truth from others. This means referring the interpretation of Islam to our righteous forebears, the Sahaabah and those who followed them in truth, for they are the best and most knowledgeable of this ummah, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said.

Anyone who examines the groups that have deviated from the Straight Path will see that they have confused the people by quoting a verse or a hadeeth out of context, so that people think that they are following the Qur’aan and Sunnah, but they cannot prove that this is the way in which the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) understood these texts.

Those who distort the attributes of Allaah, those who worship graves and circumambulate them, those who dance in dhikr, those who deny the divine will and decree (al-qadar), those who say that the Qur’aan was created, and other deviant beliefs and ways, none of them claim that his belief is the same as the belief of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Even if they claim that they have a verse or hadeeth to support them, they cannot prove that their interpretation is the same as that of those who witnessed the revelations and heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), namely the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them).

This is an important and precise standard by means of which a person can know whether what he hears and reads of beliefs and ways whose proponents say is true guidance is in fact true or false.

If you follow what the Salafi scholars tell you of Tawheed, fiqh and hadeeth, this is following true Islam, which Allaah wants for all people. The Shaytaan may come and tell you and whisper to you that this is taqleed (blind imitation) and is not permissible; undoubtedly that is the first step towards deviation from the right path. Allaah has enjoined upon the ordinary Muslim to ask the scholars and to follow their opinions and fatwas. You know that the closest of them to the right path and the truth are those who follow the path of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in their understanding of the Qur’aan and Sunnah; they are the followers of the righteous Salaf.

The Muslim who has some measure of Islamic knowledge can find out for himself whether what he hears or reads is sound or not, by studying and comparing it with that which has been proven from the righteous salaf.

There is no reason why the one who goes against the way of the Salaf should not be right in some cases, but no way or madhhab can be sound apart from the way of the salaf or first generations of this ummah, the Sahaabah and Taabi’een and those who follow them in truth.

Everything quoted by the Salafi scholars is the view of the Sahaabah and of Sa’eed ibn al-Musayyib, al-Zuhri, Mujaahid, ‘Ata’, Maalik, Hammaad ibn Zayd, Hammaad ibn Salamah, al-Shaafa’i, Ahmad, al-Bukhaari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, and other prominent scholars.

You will find that the innovators quote that which they think supports their view, and ignore that which clearly proves that they are wrong. You will find them mentioning things in their books that goes against the Sunnah, and rejecting the Sunnah because it goes against their books, distorting that which is stated clearly in the Qur’aan, describing as da’eef that which is clearly stated in the Sunnah because it goes against their opinions and their whims and desires, and so on. For this reason they are called ahl al-ahwa’ (people of whims and desires).

With regard to Ahl al-Sunnah, they are more objective, they look at the Sunnah without any bias or preconceptions, and they give the Sunnah – if it is saheeh – precedence over everything else. They do not have any whims and desires that they follow to the extent that they reject a hadeeth or distort a verse for their sake.
In fact there is no contradiction between the texts of the revelation, rather there may appear to be a contradiction in some cases. Every field of knowledge has specialized scholars, so in the field of hadeeth there are scholars who can explain what is saheeh (sound) and what is not, and can explain what is meant and dispel confusion, and reconcile between reports which seem to contradict one another.

To sum up:

The best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and the people with the most knowledge of this guidance are the scholars of hadeeth, namely the righteous salaf. Those who follow them will be saved and those who go against them will be doomed.


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