our hero, A Q KHAN

afnan

Junior Member
Father of Islamic Bomb arrested and taken into custody for 3 months on America and IAEA's request.



The most famous Muslim Scientist alive Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan who fathered the "Islamic Bomb",the man who gave Islamic World it's first Atomic Bomb and made Pakistan into 7th Nuclear country in the world was taken into Custody, investigated and now house arrested for 3 months.

The military dictator Pervez Musharraf ordered the arrest of Mr Khan about 2 weeks back, and now after a long time he has officially ordered his house arrest for 3 months.

The military government also announced that DR A Q Khan had confessed of transferring the Nuclear Technology and Raw material ,and for the past 3 days several disgraceful statements have been launched against the Pakistani Hero.But today on Feb 3 a head of Political Party talked to A Q Khan via Mobile phone and Khan completely denied that he has signed or issued any such statements. The western media and Pakistan's Puppet TV Channel PTV has been bombarding disrespectful and False statements against Mr Khan. Mr Khan also demanded to talk to the Media regarding this matter, but not only he has been banned from talking to Media but he has been under very strict House arrest and is Banned from talking to any of his relatives or friends by any medium .No one has been allowed to enter or leave his home.

But this disgraceful behaviour is not new because as soon as the Dictator Pervez Musharraf took the office in 1999 and after few months Mr Khan was removed for his Seat of Head of A Q Khan Labs, news also spread that The General has secretly agreed with American Officials of Dismantling the Nuclear Program. And although the government denied, now it seems that the time is coming soon when Pakistan will be scraped from it's most powerful Weapon .Pakistani People have blamed that the General has bowed his head down against the Israeli and American Lobby and are Praying that

Allah Protect Pakistan and A Q Khan from the trap of Devilish forces.
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Khan's Nuclear Facts-

---Abdul Qadeer Khan was born into a modest family in Bhopal, India, in 1935.
---He migrated to Pakistan in 1952, following the country's partition from India five years earlier.
---He graduated from the University of Karachi before moving to Europe for further studies in West Germany and Belgium.
---In the 1970s, he took a job at a uranium enrichment plant run by the British-Dutch-German consortium Urenco.

---1976,Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto announces to build "Islamic Bomb", a bomb for defense of all Islamic Countries.

---Khan who is in Holland called by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto to start nuclear program.

---Khan leaves his highly paid job at a Top Dutch Nuclear firm.

---Brings knowledge of Enrichment of uranium.

---Starts the A-Bomb Plane.

---Threatened for his life by CIA, MOSAD(Israeli intellegence agency) and RAW(Indian Intellegence Agency).

---Continues the program with very very high secrecy and security.

---Program is so secret that even CIA failed to get details on Nuclear Activities.

---In 1983 Khan was sentenced in absentia for trying to steal enrichment secrets from the Netherlands. He denies the charges, and his conviction was overturned in 1986.

---1984,Pakistan builds Atomic bomb.

---May 1998,India tests it's nuclear Bombs, very next day Pakistan explodes 5 nuclear Bombs.

http://famousmuslim.com

he is the real son of muslim world n we are proud of him .he is under prostate surgery , bro and sis make dua for his better health.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu Alaykum,

Muslims should not be using words like "Islamic Bomb" etc,

The Atom bomb has no such "islamic" status. Think about it. A bomb is simply an instrument of destruction and death. Perhaps it could be argued it can be used as a deterent for the State Terrorists like the US and UK.....

For something to be deemed "Islamic" there needs to be clear evidence of it according to the Quran and the Sunnah.

Hopefully it will never be used. It does not discriminate between civillian and soldier. So, of course it is a weapon of choice for the enemies of Islam, they have used it a few times before with devastating consequences.
 

Ahmed ibn Ibrahim

alhamdulilah
I cannot side with you in calling Khan a hero - not just because of what western media says about him, but also because of the facts you just laid out. Something doesn't sit right with me about a man building nuclear bombs and selling them to governments - Even Islamic ones. All it takes is for one nut-ball, extremist gov't leader to say the wrong word and VABOOOOOM there goes a million+ people. =(

I'm not happy about anyone having these bombs, and I mean ANYONE.

Perhaps Mr. Khan's intentions were more noble than the American imperialists', but even still I must respectfully decline calling Khan a "hero".

edit: Ever seen what these bombs actually do? It's not halal ...
 

afnan

Junior Member
islam is based on 5 elements 1 shahdah ,2 prayer ,3 fasting during ramadan
4 hajj 5 zakah ,and jihad is one of the basic elements of islam.
Allah swt orders us in surah tubah that we must fight with our enemy and He orders us to make ready our weapon(horse).i think you must agree to that what has been afore said.
if your enemy has atom bomb and is expected to assualt you with it ,then you will try to convince him or retaliate him?.
we have history and japan also remembers the lesson so brother what more i can say?
 

afnan

Junior Member
brother it is called" muslim bomb" not by us but by the west and america .and if you have a weapon for defence rather than attack then there must not be any objection.it is a part of technology regarding national defence .
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
islam is based on 5 elements 1 shahdah ,2 prayer ,3 fasting during ramadan
4 hajj 5 zakah ,and jihad is one of the basic elements of islam.
Allah swt orders us in surah tubah that we must fight with our enemy and He orders us to make ready our weapon(horse).i think you must agree to that what has been afore said.
if your enemy has atom bomb and is expected to assualt you with it ,then you will try to convince him or retaliate him?.
we have history and japan also remembers the lesson so brother what more i can say?


Assalamu Alaykum, Jihad is not part of the 5 pillars. It is indeed an important part of Islam, but there are many rules and these things are not for ordinary people to make judgements about.

We do not retaliate with oppression. The Atom bomb is oppression. it kills 1000000s civillians and destroys so much.......... It can not be used in a justifiable way.

1. THey use atom bomb against you

----- Its too late to hit them back, what for? Retaliation by killing their innocent women and children? This is haram.

2. You use the Bomb against them first
--- This is just destruction and unneccessary killing

3. You both use bombs at same time.
-- very pathetic.......

Nuclear disarmament is the way forward... Destroy ALL Nuclear Weapons.

Nuclear Weapons cost BILLIONS, Pakistan and India are Pathetic because they are sooo poor countries, with millions starving and poverty stricken.

Money should be spent developing education, hospitals, and improving life for the poor. Not on Atom Bombs.

wasalam
 

Ahmed ibn Ibrahim

alhamdulilah
A-Bombs aren't cool

Weeeeeeee ... Aah, well now. What to say?

Are there really innocent people left in this world? I thought that because Adam sinned, every person on this planet is a sinner as a result. Some of us choose to repent with pure intention, others pretend to repent with malice still in their hearts, and others still just plain don't repent at all. Regardless, we're all sinners and therefore we're all doomed to die. What happens after our death will be left to the perfect judgement of God.

Allah has a plan. It's unfolding minute by minute. 99.99999% of that plan is beyond our control, and it's even arguable that the part of the plan that we are responsible for is beyond our senses (as God already knows what we're going to do anyway, and this is included in His plan). Can I stop Pakistan from using it's nukes on the Infidels, or (if George Bush has his way) on Muslims? No. And it's too late to try to prevent them from having such weapons, just as it's too late to stop the Americans or Russians.

Does this mean I should glorify such weapons and the people who make them? Absolutely not. This situation that we find ourselves in is indeed a desperate one for the Muslim people. We're being tempted to hate and murder every day.

Keep your head up, obey the Lord your God, and you will succeed. Forget about what these Infidels are doing. Even your politicians and representatives are beyond your control. If you see American soldiers moving towards your homes, run and defend yourselves certainly. But if/when they drop a cluster bomb on your family, what good will your hate do you then? It's beyond our control.

Pray, repent, and obey Allah and you will have His blessings. Act like these disbelievers/hypocrites and you will find yourself bearing the wrath of His curses. I suppose it's pretty simple.

I'd like to share a news article with you; it's sort of related, sort of funny, sort of not funny. It's between a true believer Christian and FoxNews.

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Members of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, have been protesting at military funerals since June of last year carrying signs with anti-gay slogans. Yesterday, they announced they were planning to protest the funerals of the Amish schoolgirls shot to death to death in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, earlier this week, but they have since changed their plans.

With us now from Westboro Baptist Church is Shirley Phelps-Roper.

You changed your plans because Mike Gallagher has offered you airtime on his radio show, because you want to get your message out. What is that message?

SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH: The message is that God has put a standard in the earth. He expects his creatures to obey it. If you obey, he'll bless you. If you don't, he'll curse you. America has sent away her day of grace. America is doomed.

COLMES: You're giving me what sounds like a bunch of talking points. Why would you cause more pain to this community, the Amish community, which, if so not even involved in so much what is considered modern day and these families who have suffered? Do you have any sense of how much additional pain you would be causing these families by protesting at the funeral of these young girls?

PHELPS-ROPER: There isn't any way to fix that situation for them. It's not going to be any less painful if we are there or aren't there. They did that to themselves. And you say they're not involved.

COLMES: What do you mean they did that to themselves?

PHELPS-ROPER: I mean, they sit over to there and create their own form of righteousness, instead of...

COLMES: Did those girls deserve to be killed?

PHELPS-ROPER: Well, they did get killed, and they did that. Who controls the hearts of men? It was at the hand of an angry God those girls are dead.

COLMES: Did they deserve to die?

PHELPS-ROPER: They did deserve to die.

COLMES: How you can possibly make a statement like that?

PHELPS-ROPER: Because that's exactly what happened, and it happened at the hand of the lord your God.

COLMES: How can you possibly say that — how can you possibly say that young girls who have done nothing wrong, who are innocent, who are just a few years old, who have never sinned, who have never done anything, deserve to die? How could you possibly make a statement like that?

PHELPS-ROPER: You told me that you serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who says that when Adam sinned all sinned. There are no innocent human beings. And the parents...

COLMES: You know, you protest funerals of soldiers. You protest funerals of anybody who seems — dies under any circumstances. Anybody who is not a member of your church is a sinner and is hated by God.

PHELPS-ROPER: Don't go to — anyone who is not — if you don't serve God…

COLMES: Who serves God besides people in your church?

PHELPS-ROPER: Well, you tell me. I don't see anyone on the landscape in America.

COLMES: Nobody except people in your church, which is basically your family. A few hundred members of your family are the only people on earth who serve God, and everybody else deserves to die?

PHELPS-ROPER: You need to get out on these streets and warn your neighbors that your sin is taking him to hell, fulfilling the royal law to love your neighbor as yourself.

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Shirley, you really are a sick woman. You are a sick.

PHELPS-ROPER: Slight cold but thank you.

HANNITY: Twisted human being. Where is your soul that you come on the air and as young innocent girls are going to die and you're going to — you're going to open up the family's wound and pour salt on it? Where is your heart? Where is your soul? Where's your compassion? Where's your love?

PHELPS-ROPER: Our message is for the living, and that is the only loving thing to do.

HANNITY: What about the living families that lost their daughter?

PHELPS-ROPER: They did that to themselves.

HANNITY: No, because some animal killed them in cold blood. The families didn't do it.

PHELPS-ROPER: Who controls the hearts of men?

HANNITY: Do you sin? Did you ever commit adultery? Did you ever sin?

PHELPS-ROPER: Of course not.

HANNITY: Did you ever lust in your heart? Did you ever get angry? Did you ever sin?

PHELPS-ROPER: And that — you've got the deck chairs on the Titanic.

HANNITY: Have you ever sinned, Miss Perfect here?

PHELPS-ROPER: Of course, you know that I have sinned, and that's not the point.

HANNITY: You have. So you're a sinner. When you die, would you deserve to die?

PHELPS-ROPER: Well, of course all of us deserve to die. But I'm not the one who did die and my message is for those living people who brought that pain upon themselves.

HANNITY: This is what I see about you, Shirley.

PHELPS-ROPER: They need to obey the commandments of the lord their God.

HANNITY: Your entire life is — is now sort of focused on bringing pain to other people: The families of innocent girls who died. The families of innocent soldiers who died. God hates fags, is what…

PHELPS-ROPER: Innocent? Throw that word around. It has no definition when you get done with it.

HANNITY: More innocent than you. They didn't sin like you admit you sinned.

PHELPS-ROPER: Those children...

HANNITY: What did they do?

PHELPS-ROPER: ... those children were killed at the hands of a raging mad God to punish those families, to punish the state of Pennsylvania, because you've got a governor in that state got on FOX News and lambasted us because we serve God.

HANNITY: And you want to do — and you want to...

PHELPS-ROPER: And then you've got those people in Pennsylvania who think they can sue us and fix this problem?

HANNITY: Because you — hang on a second. Because you didn't like Ed Rendell and what he said, you're now going to protest at the funerals to bring pains to the families?

PHELPS-ROPER: To connect the dots. To connect the dots from point A, your filthy manner of life and your rebellion against God...

HANNITY: What are your sins, Miss Perfect?

PHELPS-ROPER: ... and conduct against the servants of God, to point B, the dead children.

HANNITY: I want to know what your sins are.

PHELPS-ROPER: I'm not going to talk to you about any such thing. I don't glory in my shame like you seem to want to do.

HANNITY: No, I just find this amazing that everyone else is a big sinner but you, and you admit to being a sinner.

PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the lord your God.

HANNITY: Which ones did you break?

PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the lord your God. You don't fix this by saying two wrongs make a right. That's what you seem to be saying.

HANNITY: No, but...

PHELPS-ROPER: That you may not say what God requires of you. If you don't, what?

HANNITY: You know what I'm saying? I'm speaking to our audience beyond you because you're brain dead. What I'm saying to you is you are a soulless, thoughtless, mean...

PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless?

HANNITY: ... mean, human being.

PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless? We go out here year after year after year on our own to warn this nation that if you obey God he'll bless you. Why don't you just try it?

HANNITY: Now listen very closely.

PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.

HANNITY: Listen to what I'm saying.

PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.

HANNITY: Here's what I'm trying to tell you.

PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the lord your God.

HANNITY: OK, I got that.

PHELPS-ROPER: And get his blessings.

HANNITY: Now you spoke.

PHELPS-ROPER: There is only one remedy.

HANNITY: Now you listen to me. Here's what your remedy is.

PHELPS-ROPER: You repent like the men of Nineveh or you, this nation s doomed. You think it's bad so far, you're going to find bodies stacked up so that you can't even bury them.

HANNITY: You — you are a religious nut.

PHELPS-ROPER: Then you will obey.

HANNITY: You are a religious...

COLMES: We've got to run. Do you deserve to die, too?

PHELPS-ROPER: All of us do. Every one of us.

COLMES: God is going to smite you at some point?

PHELPS-ROPER: No, I said we all deserve to die, but the mercy of God to his people that serve him is what prevails.

COLMES: I can't even — I can't even — we've got to take a break. I can't get mad at you, because you're so pathetic.

PHELPS-ROPER: Look, honey...

COLMES: And what you're saying is so horrible and mean-spirited.

PHELPS-ROPER: You can do that and call me names. It doesn't fix it. You have got the wrath of God pouring out on your head. You need to fix that by obeying.

COLMES: Thank you for the lecture.

PHELPS-ROPER: Repent like the men of Nineveh.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Weeeeeeee ... Aah, well now. What to say?

Are there really innocent people left in this world? I thought that because Adam sinned, every person on this planet is a sinner as a result. Some of us choose to repent with pure intention, others pretend to repent with malice still in their hearts, and others still just plain don't repent at all. Regardless, we're all sinners and therefore we're all doomed to die. What happens after our death will be left to the perfect judgement of God..

Assalamu Alaykum Bro Ahmad,

Nope. :astag: Astaghfirullah. ([SIZE=-1]I seek forgiveness from Allah)

We are all born sinless. The sin is never passed on. This is core Islamic belief.

In Christianity, the Original sin is something believed in. Although, i heard the Vatican decided to change their own Religious rule last year.. They pick and choose i guess.

[/SIZE]Is a Newly Born Baby really a Sinner? Islam Challenges The Concept of Original Sin
 

Ahmed ibn Ibrahim

alhamdulilah
Ah, yes ::knocks the side of his head:: Get out of me, Christian/Vatican lies! ;D

I suppose it doesn't make sense: A baby is born, it hasn't yet had the oppourtunity to sin, certainly not by its own intention (maybe by breathing this polluted air it might be unintentionally sinning beyond its control, but I somehow doubt Allah would hold that against him/her).

My mistake. =) Interesting/amusing interview though, eh? I don't know if it's the most effective way to help wake up the american people, but hey, it's not my choice of service to Allah. ;D Good luck to them all, may Allah guide them ...
 

Amer-muslim43

New Member
salam alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakhatuh,

-I would like to say first we shouldnt use terms like "Islamic bomb" its the same as using "Islamic facism" or "Islamic terrorism" or "Islamic militant", islam is a religion and not a "thing" these terms which people make up are silly and have noting to do with islam.
-secondly abdul qaadir is in no way a "muslim" in a true sence because many people have said he is qadiyanni(ahmadiya) which is a deviant sect and is mainly prevalent in countries like pakistan and india, they are considered kafir(non-muslims) by all the major ullema(they believe gullam ahmed some indian dude was the messiah and there are continuous revelations which takes them out of the fold of Islam)
-just because some one has a muslim sounding name doesnt make him a "muslim" if you know what i mean because nowadays there are so many deviant people espcially in countries like in pakistan and india and in south asia in general (im speaking about these places because im from pakistan i know what goes on there),
-thirdly having an atomic bomb or nuclear bomb or any other kind of a bomb isnt going to help us . Look at kashmir. even with a bomb that pakistan has they cant even help their fellow brothers and sisters who are being persecuted there so whats the use for it when u cant even help persecuted muslims WHO LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR COUNTRY!!!!.
-fourthly i would like to say its sad when we have muslims who think having guns or planes or "Islamic bombs" (what ever that means) is going to protect us. our only protector is Allah . we dont need these killing machinese. what we need to do is apply tawheed in our lives firstly then apply it in our familes. how can we call our selves muslims when there are so many muslims out there who dont even know what LA ILLAHA ILLAL LAAH means or the fundamentals of Tawheed or the 6 pillars of Eman but we are worried about having bombs. Allahu must3an . how many muslims you know pray five times a day? how many of the women in your community wear hijab? and we are worried about bombs. Allahu Akbar. May Allah guide people like u . ameen
 

ashah

Junior Member
:salam2:
-fourthly i would like to say its sad when we have muslims who think having guns or planes or "Islamic bombs" (what ever that means) is going to protect us

Allah swt orders us in surah tubah that we must fight with our enemy and He orders us to make ready our weapon(horse).i think you must agree to that what has been afore said.
if your enemy has atom bomb and is expected to assualt you with it ,then you will try to convince him or retaliate him?.


Who is right and who is wrong?

Can some one explain what is the meaning of this(Allah swt orders us in surah tubah that we must fight with our enemy and He orders us to make ready our weapon(horse).) and who is the enemy of Islam and how to fight with them and when to fight with them?
:wasalam:
 

ibnAbdullah87

Junior Member
Shaikh al-Albaanee on Jihad

:bismillah:

I hope this articale will help.

Shaikh al-Albaanee on Jihad

The following is a translation from 'Fataawaa al-Albaanee' (a transcription of some of the cassettes of the shaikh) when the shaikh was asked his opinion on jihaad.

The Answer:

"With respect to Jihad, O my brother, in this time and before this time it is fard ayn, because the problem at hand is not a problem of Bosnia (alone) which has again moved the emotions of the muslim youth. For here we have neighbouring us, the Jews who have occupied Palestine, and not a single Islamic country has moved to establish the obligation of making Jihad with them, and evicting them and throwing them in the sea, as some of or one of the presidents of the Islamic lands used to say.

And the point is that Jihad is fard ayn, because many of the muslim lands have been occupied in the past and the present by the kuffaar. And the likes of this occupation is not hidden from the muslim who concerns himself with the affairs of the muslims, not to speak of the Islamic groups or Islamic sects or Islamic lands.

But Jihad has pillars and conditions, and we - the group of muslim scholars - believe that the obligatory Jihad is only obligatory upon those muslims who would help one another to establish what Allaah has obligated upon them from the jihad against the kuffaar, and evicting them from the lands they have occupied.

And we do not need now to relate the evidences from the Book and Sunnah, for this point has no difference of opinion over it between the scholars - that jihad is fard ayn when an area of the muslim land is occupied, so how about when the occupation has occurred in many lands?!

But, unfortunately I wish to say that this jihad which is fard - rather fard ayn - is not possible to be established by individuals as occurs in the question, rather not even by some of the Islamic groups. Because the likes of this jihad, especially in our times in which the means of fighting have become many, is not possible to be established by the Islamic groups not to speak of individuals! But the obligation is upon the countries, and those Islamic countries that have the strength to prepare for war, and the means of modern day warfare, by which if they gathered together sincerely for this jihad they would establish the fard ayn. But, very unfortunately, these countries have not moved a limb to establish this.

So maybe they refer the matter of this jihad to the various Islamic groups and sects, while these are not capable of doing anything to stop the advance/attack of the kuffaar. And the current affairs bear witness to the fact that any Islamic group that tries, either to fight the aggressor as occurred in Afghanistan for example, or by revolting against the ruler whose kufr has become clear, like in Algeria for example - then these unfortunate occurrences indicate that the individual jihad or group jihad does not produce the expected fruit, and that is that the Word of Allaah be made supreme.

So therefore, we believe that this Jihad is not possible except under an Islamic authority firstly, and under an Islamic group comprising of people from different lands, not just one land or one region.

And add to this the necessity that taqwa of Allaah be present, by staying away from what Allaah has prohibited from the matters that are well known amongst the muslims, but unfortunately they are very far from putting into practice.

And we have mentioned - and I am trying to summarise my words as much as possible - many times that what has befallen the muslims today, this humiliation and abasement/ignominy that has not been known in the history of Islaam at all, is that the muslims have misapplied, at the very least, one verse of the Quraan....and that is the saying of Allaah, "if you help Allaah, Allaah will Help you."

And there is no doubt that this Help of the muslims from Allaah, is Help in making the Laws of the Shariah an observable reality, and this unfortunately is not realised in the majority of the Islamic lands, or in the muslim individuals. And those amongst the muslim lands that do have some remnants of ruling by the Law of Allaah have not, uptil now proclaimed the call to Jihaad.

And due to this the muslim individuals and nations will remain weak as long as none of the Islamic lands lift the flag of Jihad, and that Jihad which calls for fighting those nearest them, not those that are far far away. For the muslims, with their lands, and groups, and sects, and as individuals, if they cannot establish Jihad with those that neighbour them or are close to them then they are not capable of making Jihad with those that are distant from them....for example Eritrea, ,Somalia, Bosnia and Cechnya.

And due to this we mention now, that it is upon the Muslim youth as individuals and groups and sects that they spread the correct Islamic awareness in the lands firstly, and then in the rulers secondly - and that (correct understanding) is that all of these people rule by what Allaah has revealed.

The ruler that he rules by what Allaah has revealed and ordered. The individual that he rules by what Allaah has revealed... I know that today many of the individuals, and groups and sects, throw the responsibilty (of the state of affairs) onto the rulers only, while in my certain belief the responsibility equally falls upon these individuals, groups and sects, as it falls upon these rulers! This is because these governments arose from the lands of these muslims.....these muslims who were addressed by two hadeeth from the Messenger (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) ....the first his (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) saying,'when you deal with interest, and hold fast to the tail of the cow, and become contented with agriculture, and you leave Jihad in the Way of Allaah, Allaah will permit your humiliation and will not lift it from you until you return to your deen.'

And the second hadeeth, his (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) saying, '"the nations summon each other upon you as you call guests to eat from a plate of food", they said , "will we be few in number on that day O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "no rather you will be many on that day, but you will be like the foam on the ocean. And Allaah will remove the fear in the hearts of your enemies and place in your hearts al-wahn". They said, "what is al-wahn O Messenger of Allaah?" He said, "love of this world and hatred of death."'

And these occurrences which are mentioned by the Messenger (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) in this hadeeth have now occurred in every muslim society, and they are from the clear afflictions that necessitate the descent of this humiliation upon the muslims until the hearts of the rulers, and individuals become totally covered in black (due to their sins).

The muslim lands do not rule by what Allaah revealed, and if there is one amongst them that does (claim to) rule by what Allaah revealed, then the first clear indication that it does not rule by what Allaah revealed is that it does not raise the call for Jihad.

So if this time is not the time in which Jihad in the Way of Allaah does not become obligatory, and many of the muslims lands have been occupied, then when will this Jihad become obligatory?

But the problem - and this is the heart of the matter - is that there is no one amongst us who is capable of undertaking (this jihad), why?.....Because we are drowning in sins, and drowning in sectarian differences and national differences, and we know that one of the doorways to weakness and defeat is that the muslims differ amongst themselves.

And we have been tried recently with a very sad trial, and that is the Afghani Jihad, where we were hoping that its endpoint would be victory for the muslims, and there were strong signs for placing the seed of the Islamic state. Then the end and result turned out to be totally opposite (to what was hoped) due to the early signs of victory over the enemy, the communists (shuyuiyyeen), diminished when the differences between the tribes made them split into seven groups, and their Islam which they took as deen did not prevent them from doing this, and our Lord says, "and do not be from the mushriks. From those that split their deen and became sects, each sect rejoicing in what it has."

Therefore, it is upon the one who desires to go on Jihad that he gets the means of jihad, and the means of aquiring victory, and that is not realisable in our times unfortunately. And Allaah says in the Noble Quran, "indeed Allaah will not change the state of a people until they change what is in themselves."

Therefore we call the Muslim individuals, and groups and sects, not to speak of the governments that they concern themselves by spreading the purified, authentic Islam, purified from every spurious element that has entered it with the passing of time, and then bring up the muslims on this purified Islaam.

The day when these signs begin, and become clear in this vast Islamic land, that day shall the signs of getting ready to establish this fard ayn Jihaad begin.

These anxious individuals that go to many of the muslim lands invaded/attacked by the kuffaar like Bosnia and Chechnya for example..... what are the weapons that they have with them? who are the leaders who can discipline them and make them fight under one authority and under one flag? So if there was a single authority then we would see the (fruits) of the Jihad as we saw them in Afghanistan (i.e victory over the aggressor).

Therefore Allaah says, "and prepare for them what you can from stength and weapons to strike fear into the hearts of the enemies of Allaah and your enemies".

Where is this preperation?! And who is the one capable of this preparation? The individual?! No, the governments?...yes the governments, and it is possible for us to say that they do establish a small amount of this preperation.....but this preparation is taken from their enemies..... so if there was a jihad established between the kaafir and muslims, then soon these muslims would not be capable of supplying their armies with the necessary weapons except by buying them from their enemies.

So can their be victory and Jihad by buying weapons from the enemies of the muslims?!

This is impossible, and due to this, this preparation ordered us, cannot be established even by the Islamic countries, because the Islamic countries buy their weapons of destruction from their enemies and aggreviated states. And there are ways of making these weapons malfunction when they (the muslims) intend to use then against the kaafir enemy. And due to this I say, and I finish my words and reply upon this question that Allaah, when He said, "And prepare for them what you can...." this address was to the Companions of the Prophet (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) , then the address is directed to the generality of muslims due to the generality of the text. But this address was directed to the Sahaabah after they were brought up on the authentic Islamic upbringing until it was possible for them to establish the likes of this address - preparing the worldly might after preparing the spiritual might in themselves or with themselves, due to the upbringing they went through at the hands of their Prophet (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) .

And history repeats itself.....So there has to be an upbringing of a nation from the Islamic nations so that is may be possible for this nation to establish this worldly preparedness, and we today do not find a nation that has established this obligation which we can depict in two words: tasfiyyah (correction) and tarbiyyah (education/cultivation).

(Rather) we see us as scattered individuals here and there. And if there were a group, and over this group a leader who has the allegiance of all the muslims, and he raises the flag of Jihad against the enemies: this has not happened yet, and due to this we call for the existence of this introduction/predicate to this holy Jihaad.

And as for running (of these people) behind emotions when the spiritual jihad has not even been realised in them - and that is the correct understanding of Islaam, and applying it collectively, and that there be over them a leader after that, and he enjoins them to prepare what they can from strength and weapons: So the day we see the likes of this, that day the muslims will rejoice in the victory of Allaah, and Allaah Helps whom He Wills. This is my answer to your question."



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masihuddin

Junior Member
A.Q. Khan

Let me put the record straight Brother Amer American43 is misinformed Abdul Qadeer Khan is a staunh practicing Muslim and is strongly Anti Quadiyani and I know this as a fact The Quadiyannies who constitute an insignificant minority are mostly from Punjab and A.Q khan hails from Bhopal India and migrated to Pakistan after partition of India The Quadiyannies used to hate and oppose him as they are a creation of the British to weaken the muslims of the sub continent
 

afnan

Junior Member
:salam2:
yes he is a devoted muslim and not quadyiani , the person who perches on the chair in pakistan is very much quadyiani.
 

MOSABJA

Junior Member
HEROOO

I DISAGREE.

Allah says in the QURAN

PREPARE YOUR HORSES(WEAPONS) SO YOU MAY DETER YOUR ENEMIES


IN 2002 India moved 1.5MILLION troops on Pakistani border .If it had not been a
nuclear power then the fate of PAKISTAN would be the same as that of IRAQ.


When we use ISLAMIC BOMB I say that if IRAQ AFGHANISTAN SOMALIA had nuclear weapons then their fate would not have been like today.All Muslims should DEVELOP nuclear weapons for their protection.

Pakistan NUCLEAR BOMB was said as ISLAMIC BOMB initially but after MUSHARRAF the things have changed SPECIALLY after 2002

THERE ARE OTHER SCIENTIST LIKE ABDUL MAJEED,MAHMUD
who are in house arrest for only declaring that PAKISTAN WOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IF AFGHANISTAN IS ATTACKED AFTER 911 .US could not tolerate this and MUSHY house arrested them.
 
Yes he is a hero and its terrible how musharraf is treading him.

All I know is: If pakistan wouldnt have
an Atom Bomb (Not islamic bomb :astag: )

Pakistan wouldnt exist right now.
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
Yes he is a hero and its terrible how musharraf is treading him.

All I know is: If pakistan wouldnt have
an Atom Bomb (Not islamic bomb :astag: )

Pakistan wouldnt exist right now.


Salam

yeah i totally agree, i hate nuclear weapons but the problem is it brings international relations on a completely different level if ure a nuclear country and alhamdulillah pakistan can defend itself if it needs to , india wouldve flattened it by now otherwise.

wasalam
 

AbuKhalid

Junior Member
Isnt Depleted Uranium radio active??

Because it is well known that the "coalition" has used it in their missile war heads to bomb the caves of Afghanistan. And if i'm not mistaken, it has been used extensively iin Iraq too ... not to mention the phosphorus bomb ( chemical warfare) that explodes to produce phosphoric acid that burns people skin and flesh ! It was used against the mujahedeen of Fallujah who ere determined to protect the city.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Salaam,

If I may, I see the core issue of one of political oppression. The issue is not bombs. The issue is oppression. An individual was imprisoned for his belief.
Weapons by themselves are not dangerous, lethal, harmful...etc. We humans need to employ them. Hazart Doud was able to use a rock.

The people of Pakistan are at a crossroads. Inshalla, they will make the correct decisions. I am of Pakistani descent and Pakistan is in my heart.

In all seriousness we need to think about our words. We need to remember that life is a gift from Allah. Anger does not belong to us. The Prophet (swas) was not easy to irk. If there is provocation and a just cause that fits within the codes of Islamic jurisprudence so be it; protect Islam.

I pray I make sense.
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
assalamu aleikum , am for the bomb periode! if we want to be able to defend ourselves it is indeed a top weapon of disuasion
every muslim country should have it especially those who are spendimg their money in hotels and touristic resorts!that is my opinon and i won`t change it.
wassalam
 
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