Assalaam walaikum,
Sister, please.
I was a social worker in the most poverty ridden area in the South. Whoever wrote this is a middle class bigot. The article you posted is ridden with uppity ignorance.
There is dignity.
First, how dare people call the poor lazy. You need to study the cycle of poverty and depression.
Sister, please open your heart. Do not judge that which you have no knowledge of. Your statements let me know you need to extend your knowledge of the nature of poverty.
We have no right to judge. Do not fall into middle class attitudes. These values remind me of the overseers of the plantations. You do the dirty work for the rich.
I will just write this. Many times the Prophet of Allah did not have food. And he did have children.
i removed the link. i know it said poor were lazy, i do disagree, but when i posted the quote, i did so because the ending of it made sense it spoke about how lonely the poor feel and they have kids because its their way of loving and not being lonely etc. i thought this point was beautiful and i liked it and made things more clear to me. that was all, i promise, i didnt want to edit the quote because that wouldnt be the original source so i put it all in.
i dont have an attitude, its the care and love that i felt when watching those poor kids live and how their mothers cry in reach of help for her children. i would love to go upto a mother who is poor and has so many children and offer to help her with all my heart. but the care and love for those children made this thread. its not about falling into middle class attitudes, im just trying to get things straight.
when someone has a question or worry, and they ask someone, they also post why they feel like that and what is worrying them right, well i did do this in this thread so when you said 'please open your heart. Do not judge that which you have no knowledge of. Your statements let me know you need to extend your knowledge of the nature of poverty.'
with all do respect, if i didnt have an open caring heart i would not have asked my question of caring and loving for those kids. in relation to judge, i was putting all the things i feel about this question, not so much judging, trying to make a point of my question in the hope someone can answer it and help me understand these poor families. no judging just my feelings and hope for them to be corrected. if i wasnt hoping for them to be corrected i would not ask or post how i feel. and yes i do need to extend my knowledge on the poor world, and thats why im hear, so dont try to make me look stupid by telling me to extend my knowledge, sister, why else would i ask or bring this thread up?
maybe im not clear in how im explaining my feelings and making them look like im judging and being rude and disrespecting poor. i pay zaka and help the poor. when a family member or myself get a penalty notice / fine for parking or speed driving etc, you know what i do and say, i make dua 'oh allah, you are the one that will allow this fine to go through, not the machines or authority, please waive this fine please make an error in the system or somehow for me not recieve this fine, instead of me paying it to the authority, i will give it to them poor' later i find out i never got a fine from that speeding camera and gave the money to the poor. and i tell my family to do this too. i save money for the poor, i help them i love them i care for them, i ask these question out of feelings and concerns, for those kids, for the crying mothers who are in need of help and have no man beside her.
my heart goes out to her and her children. and when there is a man there, i feel happy because he can help out.
but in that link i posted, people said, the poor have children because these children can help the parents and help each other and work and bring food home. so i understood this and thought, thats beautiful, when these kids grow up, they will have kids of their own, they will always keep contact with their family too and they can all work together and help each other. thats why i posted that link up and said i now understand it from personal side of things. i just needed these answers.
plus, when someone said, a lady would have her first children when she is really young, so when she continues to have all these kids, then her kids would know how young their mother when she had them and they will assume thats how life is and they will have many kids too. so its a family thing. i clearly understood this and it made me feel happy.
what about when another person said, some dont know what love feels like, they have kids so they can love and be loved, so they dont be lonely and they have kids not because they dont love them, its because their love is all they have and need to suvive. this is how i understood what this other person said. and this was beautiful.
so there were bad things and comments on that link, but there were beautiful answers that made me happy and i now understand a bit why poor have so many kids. im not going to say 'i know accept the poor to have so many kids' NO, i understand.
so im not judging, im trying to understand and love them and care for them more.