question?? its the Quran created or uncreated???

[Dawoodi]

salam walaikum w.

i need a clear explanation about the understanding of the Quran as not beed crated.

i know the Quran is the word of Allah subhanah wata'allah and i know we must belive its not been created but is eternal.

but i would like to know how to explain it for dawah porposes.

some one asked me: did the quran had a begining? so if started at some point how is it its not created?

also if s the word of god... when Allah says "Be" is'nt "Be" a word been utter? meaning started at some point?

please elavorate for me in clear detail insha'allah.

and please for those who want to response i beg u not to doit from the tip of ur head but from evidences and add the references from real surces.

Jasakalaheir.

salam walaikum w

 

[Agrzam]

salam
I think as a moslim I need more practice than phylosophie , I advice you and my self than to work cz ALLAH Sad <<Wakol i3malo fassayara ALLAHO A3malakom >> : ALLAH wants goodids not too much talking.sahaba the companion are more practice poepl than everybody elese so you see the point
Salam

 

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu Alaykum,

The Quran is Not Created.

Imam Ahmad Said in his Famous book, Usool Sunnah,

And the Qur’aan is the Word of Allaah. It is not created.
And he should not be too weak to declare it is not created and
that the Word of Allaah is not (something) distinct and separate
from Him (i.e., an entity in itself] and that not a single thing
from it is created.

And beware of argumentation with the one who innovates
in this matter and says that his recitation of the Qur’aan is
created and other such claims.

... the Qur’aan is the Speech of Allaah [which was]
revealed upon the heart of His Prophet Muhammad . It is not
created, in whatever fashion it is recited or rehearsed.

The Noble Imam, was imprisoned and tortured for his beliefs. But, he persevered and alhamdulillah kept our beliefs safe from the innovators of that time.

Imaam ash-Shaafi’ee (d. 204H) said, “That a person is put to trial with everything that Allaah has forbidden, besides Shirk, is better than that he
looks at Kalaam (theological rhetoric).” He also said, “If people knew
what (misleading and destructive) desires are contained within
theological rhetoric they would certainly flee from it as they would from a
lion,” he also said, “Whoever showed boldness in approaching
theological rhetoric will never prosper. Reported by Ibn Qudaamah in his
Burhaan fee Bayaanil-Qur’aan.


One of the Scholars of ash-Shaash said:
“Every knowledge save that of the Qur’aan is a pre-occupation
Except for the Hadeeth and Fiqh (understanding) of the Deen
Knowledge is only that about which it is said,
‘Haddathanaa ...‘ (So and so narrated to us And what is besides tha are but whisperings of the Shayaateen (devils)”
Aboo Yoosuf, the companion of Aboo Haneefah said, “Whoever sought
knowledge by kalaam (theological rhetoric) will turn a heretical apostate,”
and Ahmad ibn Hanbal (d. 241H) said, “The person of theological
rhetoric will never prosper. And never do you see anyone looking into
theological rhetoric except that in his heart is a desire for creating
mischief.” Both narrations are reported by Ibn Qudaamah in his Burhaan
fee Bayaanil-Qur’aan.

Please Download and Read The Following Book

Foundations of the Sunnah by Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal

I really recommend you read the above book, it is really good. It has a beautiful but sad story about Imam Ahmad's life and the persecution that he went to. He was tortured and kept in prison for standing up for the truth.

 

[albinsaid09]

:salam2:
Thank you very much for sharing ,Mabsoot. A good book and a must read ... But i got a question. How do you know that something is an innovation. Knowlege?

 

[Mabsoot]

:salam2:
Thank you very much for sharing ,Mabsoot. A good book and a must read ... But i got a question. How do you know that something is an innovation. Knowlege?

Assalamu Alaykum,

yes, it is from knowledge of the book of Allah and the Sunnah of his Messenger. You would know what is wrong, when it doesnt comply with the original teachings.

What is Bidah (innovation)?

wasalaam.