Where is Mohammed sallahu alayhi wa sallam's parents

[bintul islam]

:salam2:
My dad always used to say, but I didn't or refused to believe him, that Prophet Mohammed asw parents are both in hell. Then I read something sadly saying the same thing. Is that true? Boy our nabi asw must have been such a strong person to know that his parents, uncle etc etc were going to hell.

 

[Muhammad_A]

What do we actually know about the Rasul'Ullah (salli allahu alayi wa salaam)'s parents religious beliefs?

His dad was called Abdullah, wasn't he? So that sounds like he was on the right path. Didn't Mohammed (SAW) come from a long line of monotheists?

 

[Happy 2BA Muslim]

:salam2:

It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that his parents are in Hell. Muslim (203) narrated that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?’ He said: “In Hell.” When the man turned away, he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”

With regard to his mother he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, and He did not give me permission. I asked him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.” Narrated by Muslim, 976.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, commenting on the first hadeeth:

This indicates that whoever died during the fatrah (interval between two Prophets) following the way of the Arabs at that time, namely idol-worship, is among the people of Hell. We cannot say that the message did not reach these people, because the message of Ibraaheem and other Prophets had reached these people.

Sharh Saheeh Muslim, 3/79.

However some scholars have tried to defend the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say that they will be saved from Hell, and that Allaah brought them back to life after they had died, and they became Muslim and believed in the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then they died like that (as Muslims). They quoted as evidence for this mawdoo’ (fabricated) and da’eef jiddan (very weak) ahaadeeth which cannot be regarded as evidence.

See al-Haawi li’l-Fataawi, 2/202

The scholars refuted this idea.

Al-‘Azeemabaadi said:

Everything that has been narrated concerning the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) being brought back to life and believing and being saved is mostly fabrications and lies, and some of it is da’eef jiddan (very weak) and is not saheeh at all, according to the consensus of the leading hadeeth scholars who judged it to be mawdoo’ (fabricated) and da’eef (weak), such as al-Daaraqutni, al-Jawzaqaani, Ibn Shaheen, al-Khateeb, Ibn ‘Asaakir, Ibn Naasir, Ibn al-Jawzi, al-Suhayli, al-Qurtubi and others. ‘Awn al-Ma’bood, 12/494. See also Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/324

We should understand that blood ties will not save anyone from the wrath of Allaah. Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Whoever dies in kufr will be in Hell and his blood ties will not benefit him at all. Sharh Saheeh Muslim, 3/79.

The ruling on the parents and grandfather of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is no exception to that. The father of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) was a kaafir and remained so until he died, and Ibraaheem disavowed himself of him, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And Ibraaheem’s (Abraham) invoking (of Allaah) for his father’s forgiveness was only because of a promise he [Ibraaheem (Abraham)] had made to him (his father). But when it became clear to him that he (his father) is an enemy of Allaah, he dissociated himself from him”

[al-Tawbah 9:114]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) even stated this clearly, when the following verse was revealed (interpretation of the meaning):

“And warn your tribe (O Muhammad) of near kindred”

[al-Shu’ara’ 26:214]

He said: "O people of Quraysh (or said similar words)! Buy (i.e. save) yourselves (from the Hellfire) as I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O Bani Abd Manaaf, I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O ‘Abbaas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O Safiyyah, aunt of the Messenger of Allaah, I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O Faatimah daughter of Muhammad, Ask me for whatever you want of my wealth, but I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2753; Muslim, 206.

No Muslim should let his feelings for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his relatives make him issue judgements without clear proof and knowledge, lest that lead to loss in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allaah is the One Whose help we seek.

Islam Q&A

:salam2:

 

[Abdul Hasib]

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[al-muslimah]

Is this really true?! are they really going to hell??! The first time I ever know about this.
but as I know, we as Muslims, can not judge people whether they are going to hell or heaven, Actually we don’t know if prophet Mohammad’s parents did believe in the previous messages or not, Didn’t prophet Mohammad narrate any hadeeth regarding his parent’s belief?

 

[junaid hasan]

Didn’t prophet Mohammad narrate any hadeeth regarding his parent’s belief?[/B]

Didn´t this hadiths make it clear?

With regard to his mother he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, and He did not give me permission. I asked him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.” Narrated by Muslim, 976

 

[al-muslimah]

so yeah it was narrated!!..but you know its hard to believe that his parents are going to hell..
wait hold on..how come is father was named "abduallah" "slave of god" so he used to believe in somthing..isnt that true?

 

[junaid hasan]

so yeah it was narrated!!..but you know its hard to believe that his parents are going to hell..
wait hold on..how come is father was named "abduallah" "slave of god" so he used to believe in somthing..isnt that true?

Sister i had 2 friends whose name were Abdullah. But he hadn´t a lot of time to spend time with me, because he was busy always with some new german girlfriend.

Name doesn´t play any matter so long their aqeedah and practise are not the right one. And why should i care about the prophet mohammad(sw) parents? If they are believer will go in paradies, if not then ....

Like the son of ibrahims(as) sons. ANd there are a lot of stories.

 

[al-muslimah]

Sister i had 2 friends whose name were Abdullah. But he hadn´t a lot of time to spend time with me, because he was busy always with some new german girlfriend.

Name doesn´t play any matter so long their aqeedah and practise are not the right one. And why should i care about the prophet mohammad(sw) parents? If they are believer will go in paradies, if not then ....

Like the son of ibrahims(as) sons. ANd there are a lot of stories.

Yup ur right.Thankyou bro.

 

[al-fajr]

:salam2:

I wouldnt say either way. (just my view)

Would any of you like it if someone said your parents were going to Hell? No of course not.

To sis al-muslimah, the word for God (Allah) and the word for slave (Abd) were the same back then as they are now, so a name such as 'slave of God' would be the same. Also they did beleive in one 'supreme' God (Allah) but committed open shirk with that.

 

[samiha]

Assalamu alaykum

how come is father was named "abduallah" "slave of god" so he used to believe in somthing..isnt that true?

Also I'd like to add... at the time of the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam, they were pagans. It's not that they did not believe in god(s) but they made Shirk of Allah. They still believed He was God, just they used intermidiates with him, or equated partners with Him. There are other narrations of people with such names of other gods such as, Abdul-Ka'bah and Abdul-Uzzah.

So such a style of naming someone was common back then even. However, people with such names attributing any other god were made to change it after their conversion to Islaam. One such example is of Abu Bakr (radiallahu anhu) whose name before Islaam had been Abdul Ka'bah ... afterwards which was changed to Abdullah by the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam.

Just pointing out that the naming method was not unknown at the time.

((lol Isra got here first but oh well ))

wasalam

 

[OsMaN_93]

:salam2:

It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that his parents are in Hell. Muslim (203) narrated that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?’ He said: “In Hell.” When the man turned away, he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”

With regard to his mother he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, and He did not give me permission. I asked him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.” Narrated by Muslim, 976.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, commenting on the first hadeeth:

This indicates that whoever died during the fatrah (interval between two Prophets) following the way of the Arabs at that time, namely idol-worship, is among the people of Hell. We cannot say that the message did not reach these people, because the message of Ibraaheem and other Prophets had reached these people.

Sharh Saheeh Muslim, 3/79.

However some scholars have tried to defend the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say that they will be saved from Hell, and that Allaah brought them back to life after they had died, and they became Muslim and believed in the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then they died like that (as Muslims). They quoted as evidence for this mawdoo’ (fabricated) and da’eef jiddan (very weak) ahaadeeth which cannot be regarded as evidence.

See al-Haawi li’l-Fataawi, 2/202

The scholars refuted this idea.

Al-‘Azeemabaadi said:

Everything that has been narrated concerning the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) being brought back to life and believing and being saved is mostly fabrications and lies, and some of it is da’eef jiddan (very weak) and is not saheeh at all, according to the consensus of the leading hadeeth scholars who judged it to be mawdoo’ (fabricated) and da’eef (weak), such as al-Daaraqutni, al-Jawzaqaani, Ibn Shaheen, al-Khateeb, Ibn ‘Asaakir, Ibn Naasir, Ibn al-Jawzi, al-Suhayli, al-Qurtubi and others. ‘Awn al-Ma’bood, 12/494. See also Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/324

We should understand that blood ties will not save anyone from the wrath of Allaah. Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Whoever dies in kufr will be in Hell and his blood ties will not benefit him at all. Sharh Saheeh Muslim, 3/79.

The ruling on the parents and grandfather of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is no exception to that. The father of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) was a kaafir and remained so until he died, and Ibraaheem disavowed himself of him, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And Ibraaheem’s (Abraham) invoking (of Allaah) for his father’s forgiveness was only because of a promise he [Ibraaheem (Abraham)] had made to him (his father). But when it became clear to him that he (his father) is an enemy of Allaah, he dissociated himself from him”

[al-Tawbah 9:114]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) even stated this clearly, when the following verse was revealed (interpretation of the meaning):

“And warn your tribe (O Muhammad) of near kindred”

[al-Shu’ara’ 26:214]

He said: "O people of Quraysh (or said similar words)! Buy (i.e. save) yourselves (from the Hellfire) as I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O Bani Abd Manaaf, I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O ‘Abbaas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O Safiyyah, aunt of the Messenger of Allaah, I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment. O Faatimah daughter of Muhammad, Ask me for whatever you want of my wealth, but I cannot save you from Allaah's punishment.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2753; Muslim, 206.

No Muslim should let his feelings for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his relatives make him issue judgements without clear proof and knowledge, lest that lead to loss in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allaah is the One Whose help we seek.

Islam Q&A

:salam2:

jazak allah, very helpfull

 

[OsMaN_93]

Assalamu alaykum



Also I'd like to add... at the time of the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam, they were pagans. It's not that they did not believe in god(s) but they made Shirk of Allah. They still believed He was God, just they used intermidiates with him, or equated partners with Him. There are other narrations of people with such names of other gods such as, Abdul-Ka'bah and Abdul-Uzzah.

So such a style of naming someone was common back then even. However, people with such names attributing any other god were made to change it after their conversion to Islaam. One such example is of Abu Bakr (radiallahu anhu) whose name before Islaam had been Abdul Ka'bah ... afterwards which was changed to Abdullah by the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam.

Just pointing out that the naming method was not unknown at the time.

((lol Isra got here first but oh well ))

wasalam

jazaky allah ,very helpful

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Jazaak Allaah khayr akhi. I read the that the hadeeth is mawdoo` in another book, but it still mentioned that some people differed if I'm correct with out talking about what has been reported in Muslim (since that wasn't the purpose of the book). Jazaak Allaah khayr, I've been looking for this!

 

[junaid hasan]

Jazaak Allaah khayr akhi. I read the that the hadeeth is mawdoo` in another book, !

Which one is mawdoo akhi?

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

However some scholars have tried to defend the parents of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say that they will be saved from Hell, and that Allaah brought them back to life after they had died, and they became Muslim and believed in the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then they died like that (as Muslims). They quoted as evidence for this mawdoo’ (fabricated) and da’eef jiddan (very weak) ahaadeeth which cannot be regarded as evidence.

See al-Haawi li’l-Fataawi, 2/202

The scholars refuted this idea.

The one being referred to above akhi.

Wa`alaykum us-salaam.

 

[Munawar]

:salam2:
I have read that on the Day of Judgment people will eventually be divided into three groups.
1. Those who will go to Jannah.
2. Those who will go to Jahunnam.
3. Those who didn't get clear guidance and message of Allah in their life. These people will go through a seperate Trial/Test process, and after that they will be either sent to Paradise or Hell.

Based on this I think that since Prophet Mohammad's parents really didn't get any clear guidance or message of Allah, they will be among the third group of people, and they will be sent either to Hell or Heaven after that.

But... Only Allah knows the best.

 

[samiha]

:salam2:
I have read that on the Day of Judgment people will eventually be divided into three groups.
1. Those who will go to Jannah.
2. Those who will go to Jahunnam.
3. Those who didn't get clear guidance and message of Allah in their life. These people will go through a seperate Trial/Test process, and after that they will be either sent to Paradise or Hell.

Based on this I think that since Prophet Mohammad's parents really didn't get any clear guidance or message of Allah, they will be among the third group of people, and they will be sent either to Hell or Heaven after that.

But... Only Allah knows the best.

wa alaykum salam,

To reiterate, maybe we should re-read this part. We are not scholars, this is what has been said...

It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that his parents are in Hell. Muslim (203) narrated that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?’ He said: “In Hell.” When the man turned away, he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”

With regard to his mother he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, and He did not give me permission. I asked him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.” Narrated by Muslim, 976.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, commenting on the first hadeeth:

This indicates that whoever died during the fatrah (interval between two Prophets) following the way of the Arabs at that time, namely idol-worship, is among the people of Hell. We cannot say that the message did not reach these people, because the message of Ibraaheem and other Prophets had reached these people.

Sharh Saheeh Muslim, 3/79.

wasalam