Misreading of a post

[Aapa]

Salaam,

It saddens me that a post I started was closed due to the misreading by a moderator. My simple intent was to ask the members to diversify and become more serious with the topics and start to do something.
Instead, I find my topic is closed with a lot of writing about jihad. All, I stated was jihad is incumbent upon us and part of being a Muslim is being actively involved with life.
It greatly upsets me. I am not angry. I am not an angry person. I am deeply hurt. I asked sisters to make quilts, I asked if we could have soup kitchens in our masjids, I asked if we could assist each other before we go to the kuffir for advise.. It seems that we are not there yet.

 

[hussain.mahammed]

Salaam,

It saddens me that a post I started was closed due to the misreading by a moderator. My simple intent was to ask the members to diversify and become more serious with the topics and start to do something.
Instead, I find my topic is closed with a lot of writing about jihad. All, I stated was jihad is incumbent upon us and part of being a Muslim is being actively involved with life.
It greatly upsets me. I am not angry. I am not an angry person. I am deeply hurt. I asked sisters to make quilts, I asked if we could have soup kitchens in our masjids, I asked if we could assist each other before we go to the kuffir for advise.. It seems that we are not there yet.

As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu dear Aapa

I fully agree to what you just wrote. We come from different places, different ethnicities, different nationalities with totally different mindsets. We need to understand each other as Muslims. Only Islam unites us in every moment. We need to grow up as Muslims.

wa/salam

 

[dawahforever]

Asalaamu Alaikum

Speaking of quilts, a couple of years ago when I was running the first ever muslim girl guide group in my province, we did afghans for Afghans. Maybe you've heard of this program. Just wanted to let you know that there are people doing stuff out there even if they are quiet about it. And that's only the tip of the iceberg

Wa Salaamu Alaikum
D4E

 

[samiha]

:salam2:

... and that, was the last of my intent....

If you feel your post has been misread, as do I in the same manner. I did not close your thread because the ideas of becoming serious and doing something were wrong, but just because I did not want people to start attempting explanations of jihaad and what not... and i'm just to darn tired to continue

:astag:...

I'll try to come back and edit this later if I can sorry.

wasalam

 

[farhopes]

assalamo alikom

Don't feel hurt, dearest sister. We all understand you and your message was successfully conveyed even if your thread was closed. Take it easy and don't get upset, you have many supporters here.

 

[Aapa]

Salaam,

Thanks. Now we need to have someone give us links to exisitng organizations. We need to build our networks. We have talent and time. Let us share it with each other.
The best way to get over fatigue is to be active. I will become a pest at my masjid and drive the women there crazy. For example one sister from Syria sells us hijab head sets..and the money is given to the poor in Syria. I will have them start a club...
We need to become more prominent in our communties and volunteer our services.. To the brothers out there...we need role models for young men in the west. That is a hint.
Love,
your aapa.

 

[hussain.mahammed]

:salam2:

... and that, was the last of my intent....

If you feel your post has been misread, as do I in the same manner. I did not close your thread because the ideas of becoming serious and doing something were wrong, but just because I did not want people to start attempting explanations of jihaad and what not...

wasalam

walaikum as salam wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu sister

We as Muslims, are humans too. So its not possible to do everything perfectly. You have been doing a great job as a moderator in this site and a loads of thanks and hugs to Brother Mabsoot. Lets get back on track. We Muslims need to remain united, which we do not see much in the present day world. Final Destination - Jannah. Are you on the ride fellows?

wa/salam

 

[amina88]

Salaam,

Apaa (lol) I love your posts, u seem like such a cool mum! dont be sad and keep the posts coming!

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

I think the role model directed to brothers applies to me, i have the opportunity in college to be a role model, but its the difficulty of people listening to me. Like today i narrated the story of Ahmed The Repenter. So beautiful, one point it went quiet in the classroom. I am not sure if benefit was taken out although a brother i know did ask me to get him some material on "How to pray" before i narrated the story, so maybe it cemented the thought that he needs to start pray. So thats for next week, i wanted to do one better and show him personally but my offer was declined.

I personally intepret your message as me personally trying to get the brothers back in the Mosque, learning about Islam, staying away from the forbidden and re-establishing their relationship with Allah. I think at the same time its important to raise awareness of the atrocities going on. And me helping in anyway i can.

I am just lacking confidence in the sense my efforts maybe wasted. Like a brother in my class has a heart operation on Friday and i told him to Trust Allah and make Du'a, but stay strong. I gave him the example of people on an aeroplane, when there is some turbulence, they supplicate to Allah for the reminder of the journey to be safe. But once they get off, its back to normal and everything is all good. I told him to try and avoid this. May Allah make his recovery swift and may he return back to Allah. Ameen.

Maybe my approach is wrong, but there is not much i can do. (Or maybe there, but i have relised it yet). Plus age plays a factor, their older than me, so can i still be a rold model?

(A thought springs to mind when Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) used to get Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) to sit with the elderly, and they (Elderly) would say to Umar why he would do this, and he replied because of his status. The hadith continues when Umar asks the elderly people about how they intepret the Ayah (110:1), a person answered yet others remained silent. Then Umar asked Ibn Abbas whether he agreed, but he said No, and goes onto explain. Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) replies "I do not know anything about it other than what you have said". This hadith is in Sahih Al-Bukhari, although i am sort of taking the benefit from the commentary from "Riyad-us-Saliheen".

I think i will still try and do my little bit, as the little contributions tend to build the tower. (I just thought of that, so sorry if sounds cheesy.)

I guess i answered my own question but still. The other thing is, your initial post got me thinking, but i had no idea how to respond and was lacking guidance (i think its the best word). I think the main problem, in my opinion which is most likely wrong but people either feel they don't have the time or have their own problems to deal with etc.

Sorry for my long post, but that was my thinking converted into this post.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam

 

[Munawar]

Salaam,

It saddens me that a post I started was closed due to the misreading by a moderator. My simple intent was to ask the members to diversify and become more serious with the topics and start to do something.
Instead, I find my topic is closed with a lot of writing about jihad. All, I stated was jihad is incumbent upon us and part of being a Muslim is being actively involved with life.
It greatly upsets me. I am not angry. I am not an angry person. I am deeply hurt. I asked sisters to make quilts, I asked if we could have soup kitchens in our masjids, I asked if we could assist each other before we go to the kuffir for advise.. It seems that we are not there yet.

:salam2:
I fully agree with you sister, Don't be sad I am and many other are with you.
But I can also understand that as a moderator's job is also difficult. Hopefully things will work out InshaAllah.

 

[a_muslimah86]

Salaam,

It saddens me that a post I started was closed due to the misreading by a moderator. My simple intent was to ask the members to diversify and become more serious with the topics and start to do something.
Instead, I find my topic is closed with a lot of writing about jihad. All, I stated was jihad is incumbent upon us and part of being a Muslim is being actively involved with life.
It greatly upsets me. I am not angry. I am not an angry person. I am deeply hurt. I asked sisters to make quilts, I asked if we could have soup kitchens in our masjids, I asked if we could assist each other before we go to the kuffir for advise.. It seems that we are not there yet.

I am so sorry that you're upset aapa..

I actually read your post the other day..but didn't reply..as every word you said was true..and I felt embarrassed for not being so motivated to do things for others through Islam and for Islam

..and your suggestion for making soup-kitchens specifically actually made me think of doing it through our local MSA once the semester starts..

we (the members and officers) have been thinking about doing something for the community and for Islam...but we couldn't come up with much (as we are limited on number of members and financially)...and your post...helped me find something that nobody thought of before unfortunately!..if we get our masjid involved..i'm pretty sure we can get them to contribute somehow and make it possible..

and your suggestion provoked other ideas for me to suggest...something like a clothes-drive for the needy (very close to your quilt idea..and it doesn't matter if they are for Muslims or not) and it would be sponsored by the masjid and our MSA..and/or a canned-food drive to serve the same purpose..these things would be excellent as they would show the very humanitarian and charitable side of Islam and Muslims...and get the community involved in our city..which will be beneficial inshallah

so please don't be upset aapa!..jazaki allah every khair just for caring so much as to sit down and write what your wrote!...and I did not want to share what I said on here...but I did because I wanted you to know that your words did get to the mind and hearts of one of the many who read your post! ...and I hope it will put a smile on your face!

I love you for the sake of Allah aapa!...

wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatu allah

 

[hussain.mahammed]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

I think the role model directed to brothers applies to me, i have the opportunity in college to be a role model, but its the difficulty of people listening to me. Like today i narrated the story of Ahmed The Repenter. So beautiful, one point it went quiet in the classroom. I am not sure if benefit was taken out although a brother i know did ask me to get him some material on "How to pray" before i narrated the story, so maybe it cemented the thought that he needs to start pray. So thats for next week, i wanted to do one better and show him personally but my offer was declined.

I personally intepret your message as me personally trying to get the brothers back in the Mosque, learning about Islam, staying away from the forbidden and re-establishing their relationship with Allah. I think at the same time its important to raise awareness of the atrocities going on. And me helping in anyway i can.

I am just lacking confidence in the sense my efforts maybe wasted. Like a brother in my class has a heart operation on Friday and i told him to Trust Allah and make Du'a, but stay strong. I gave him the example of people on an aeroplane, when there is some turbulence, they supplicate to Allah for the reminder of the journey to be safe. But once they get off, its back to normal and everything is all good. I told him to try and avoid this. May Allah make his recovery swift and may he return back to Allah. Ameen.

Maybe my approach is wrong, but there is not much i can do. (Or maybe there, but i have relised it yet). Plus age plays a factor, their older than me, so can i still be a rold model?

(A thought springs to mind when Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) used to get Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) to sit with the elderly, and they (Elderly) would say to Umar why he would do this, and he replied because of his status. The hadith continues when Umar asks the elderly people about how they intepret the Ayah (110:1), a person answered yet others remained silent. Then Umar asked Ibn Abbas whether he agreed, but he said No, and goes onto explain. Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) replies "I do not know anything about it other than what you have said". This hadith is in Sahih Al-Bukhari, although i am sort of taking the benefit from the commentary from "Riyad-us-Saliheen".

I think i will still try and do my little bit, as the little contributions tend to build the tower. (I just thought of that, so sorry if sounds cheesy.)

I guess i answered my own question but still. The other thing is, your initial post got me thinking, but i had no idea how to respond and was lacking guidance (i think its the best word). I think the main problem, in my opinion which is most likely wrong but people either feel they don't have the time or have their own problems to deal with etc.

Sorry for my long post, but that was my thinking converted into this post.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam

I am humbled by your post dear brother. Masha Allah. May Allah Subhanahu wa Taala bless you with wisdom, knowledge and success in this dunya as well as in The Akhirah.

wa/salam

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

Ameen brother. I am more shocked at your reply. Subhan'Allah, i was expected loads of ways to try and do good posted because of my reply. May Allah bless you brother, I think sister a-muslimah86 provided some good methods, i have going to have a talk with my course tutor to see how i could do something like this. And again as stated it provides positive publicity for the muslims and i think its needed here.

One problem is that initially thinking it looks really daunting, i have to be honest, but i guess thats why its a more community thing rather than individual. Hmmmmm, i think awareness is the key first, then its the implementing. Like get as many people together to support and then go for it. But it comes down to commitment, pledging is good, but when it comes to doing it, well....

May sound lousy, but i can imagine going out with brothers, with some supplies that are easy to carry, blankets and talking to those in need. But i need to stop talking, whats the point if i am not planning to do anything in the end.

Jazaaka Allaahu Khayran brother.

Wasalam

 

[Aapa]

Salaam,

Keep on keeping on...My dear brother in Islam who is serving time Dr. Sami Al-Arian ..keeps the hope alive that the youth is our hope..it has always been the young who carry on and keep Islam alive. It is our little deeds that make the Path wider, for they serve all of mankind. Now, let me wipe a tear of joy.. Alhumdullila.

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

Well, i was thinking and this is my sort of action plan, Insh'Allah, very optimistic you may think but it requires support. I made these notes:

Raise awareness of what needs to be done to other people. (By this i mean try and get many people interested i know around college, mosque etc. One thing bugging me is, i might do this but it may not progress. Insh'Allah it will)

If enough people join (so to speak) start to contact Muslim businesses about giving back to the community that established them. (Well i have a few in mind, although my main concern here is what about these businesses that sell Haram or Haram goes on in their premises.)

Discussion about a logo that can identify this. (This is not very clear, i don't know who i am going to actually discuss this with, maybe myself? By a logo i mean something that will identify that the business is giving back to the community.)

Places to find in order to give and what is essentially needed. (This require going out to find these places, and i will ask around those who know depreived places)

Methods to raise funds. (Well Insh'Allah reach this stage, then methods to raise funds, such as charity boxes although again i can't think of other ways to raise money. Contact Muslim businesses is one way, but what about Non-Muslim Businesses? I know there is ways but i need to put my thinking cap on and ask people too)

Using the funds to help the needy (May Allah SubhanuWaTa'Ala help us reach this stage)

I am going to expand on these 6 factors although again requires thought. I only posted this, so it shows that its not just all about talk but try to put into practice. May Allah give this success. Ameen.

It looks so bare right now, that its making me that nothing may happen or it may not take off. Then what????? Its just loads of ideas on a piece of paper apart from the stuff in brackets. But then i guess everything starts bare doesn't it? Think about it?

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam

 

[a_muslimah86]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

Well, i was thinking and this is my sort of action plan, Insh'Allah, very optimistic you may think but it requires support. I made these notes:

Raise awareness of what needs to be done to other people. (By this i mean try and get many people interested i know around college, mosque etc. One thing bugging me is, i might do this but it may not progress. Insh'Allah it will)

If enough people join (so to speak) start to contact Muslim businesses about giving back to the community that established them. (Well i have a few in mind, although my main concern here is what about these businesses that sell Haram or Haram goes on in their premises.)

Discussion about a logo that can identify this. (This is not very clear, i don't know who i am going to actually discuss this with, maybe myself? By a logo i mean something that will identify that the business is giving back to the community.)

Places to find in order to give and what is essentially needed. (This require going out to find these places, and i will ask around those who know depreived places)

Methods to raise funds. (Well Insh'Allah reach this stage, then methods to raise funds, such as charity boxes although again i can't think of other ways to raise money. Contact Muslim businesses is one way, but what about Non-Muslim Businesses? I know there is ways but i need to put my thinking cap on and ask people too)

Using the funds to help the needy (May Allah SubhanuWaTa'Ala help us reach this stage)

I am going to expand on these 6 factors although again requires thought. I only posted this, so it shows that its not just all about talk but try to put into practice. May Allah give this success. Ameen.

It looks so bare right now, that its making me that nothing may happen or it may not take off. Then what????? Its just loads of ideas on a piece of paper apart from the stuff in brackets. But then i guess everything starts bare doesn't it? Think about it?

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam

assalamo alaikum brother..

*all* ideas and *all* plans start with *words*..and even before *that*..they start with a thought!..inshallah you will get to make each of your plans come true in action as well!..have faith brother!

to help you out a bit I'll give you some methods I and our MSA might use if the ideas I will suggest are going to be accepted and worked on..

in my town..there are a few organizations that help out low-income and disadvantaged families from ALL backgrounds...and many muslim families seek them...for clothes..food..training programs..assistance...etc.

and since I would like for our MSA and our Masjid to have a strong debut (so to speak) in charity work..I thought about making our initial charity events in affiliation with them..in addition to having word of mouth work its wonders around the city community..

that can give us many advantages..

1. we won't have to spend much resources in trying to "get-the-word-out" about our event or plans (except maybe getting in contact with everyone)..because we're going to use affiliation with accredited organizations that are already established and very well known for their charity goals and assistance in the community..

2. affiliating ourselves *to* a bigger organization *through* an association (i.e. MSA) or a religious institution (i.e. the masjid) will seem very professional..and very formal..and more likely to be accepted and sponsored..and less likely to be questionable by others..

3. we will reach more people that way..due to the fact that Muslims are not going to be THE ONLY ones benefiting...thus we will enlighten many about our great deen..and how we want to involve ourselves in our city without any prejudice and with very kind and beneficial acts towards others..without seeking *any personal* gain or profit

4. our MSA can benefit by it being known through the city (not just our university campus!)..and that can bring much profit for it..so it can make more educational events about Islam for muslims and non-muslims alike!..so in a way..it would give us the "intellectual" method of da'awa in addition to that of "action" (i.e. charity)..

and the cool thing about living in the u.s. (and I don't know if you have this in the u.k.)..when you make donations here..especially that of material-goods (such as clothes)..you can fill out a form estimating the value of it..and you can earn a tax-return for it..we can take the tax-returns (no matter how little or great in value they might be) and give them to our local sunday-madrasa they have made for the muslim children in the community to help with its expenses!..

and by making sure that our muslim brothers and sisters participate in all of this to the best of their ability..even if by providing us with names of people willing to make donations only..hopefully we will instill values of commitment..selflessness..and love towards the obligations of their deen (first and foremost) and others as well!

I apologize for the rather lengthy post..but I was feeding off of your ideas..so I thought I should share mine with you in return...so we can benefit from each other in the end..as I truly want to do something..even if it won't happen (inshallah it will though!)..at least I'll know that I tried and didn't just *intend*..

wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatu allah

 

[TheHumbleWun]

assalamo alaikum brother..

and the cool thing about living in the u.s. (and I don't know if you have this in the u.k.)..when you make donations here..especially that of material-goods (such as clothes)..you can fill out a form estimating the value of it..and you can earn a tax-return for it..we can take the tax-returns (no matter how little or great in value they might be) and give them to our local sunday-madrasa they have made for the muslim children in the community to help with its expenses!..

Salaam,

Actually when you give donatation to charity you get a tax deduction on your tax return. You don't get any money. A tax deduction also depends on your income. Sometimes you might not report the donation (on Schedule A) because your standard deduction is greater. When you itemize or deduct on your tax return you are basically trying to pay less taxes. I know that didn't make that much sense, but hey i'm your TTI accountant.

 

[a_muslimah86]

Salaam,

Actually when you give donatation to charity you get a tax deduction on your tax return. You don't get any money. A tax deduction also depends on your income. Sometimes you might not report the donation (on Schedule A) because your standard deduction is greater. When you itemize or deduct on your tax return you are basically trying to pay less taxes. I know that didn't make that much sense, but hey i'm your TTI accountant.

you're right brother...i'm totally confused right now!..alhamduliallah for H & R..lol

nonetheless..you corrected me and the sister who told me this when I was telling her my plan..I guess we just got excited..hehe

jazaka allah khair for that brother

wa alaikum assalam

 

[Fardeen007]

Assalamwalaikum

can someone tell me how to make a post on turntoislam.com?
Thanks

 

[muslimad]

Assalamwalaikum

can someone tell me how to make a post on turntoislam.com?
Thanks

:salam2:
you just posted

if u want to start a new thread you just go to the main page and click on new thread