Scarf Women Denied Seat

A young Muslim woman said she and another woman were refused seats directly behind Barack Obama — and in front of TV cameras — at a Detroit rally because they wear head scarfs.

Salaam,

And they claim he transcends images and stereotypes people may have. Now can Muslims please stop supporting him. We need to support and build our own Muslim leaders in our own communities.
 

saffanah

speak good or silent
wa'alaikumussalam

I don't support him, for me it's clear what Allah The Most High, says:

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
(Al-Maa'idah :51)
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
haha, the Guy doesn't want anything to do with Islam, that is why. He is trying to distance himself from Muslims and Islam as far as possible and yet Muslims are campaigning for him. I really feel sorry for those brain washed Muslims who think this person is any different.
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله

Obama has apologized to two American Muslim women who were barred from sitting behind him at an election rally for wearing hijab. Read the whole story:

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...Zone-English-News/NWELayout&cid=1212925474915
والسلام

Salam Alaikum

Thank you for posting the whole story because everyone is so keep to jump on it. But in reality it did not say Barack Obama said that it said volunteers for his campaign. Not Barack Obama. We are so quick to judge without having all of the knowledge. We are muslims and are quick to say dont judge us because some muslims do wrong, etc.. etc... it doesnt mean that is how I feel or what I stand for , right? Then how can we judge him base on something someone else done?

Salam Amirah80
:(
 
Salaam,

If the volunteers for his campaign support Obama (their learder) and Obama relies on his campaign supporters then shouldn't Obama be the first to jump to the media and not let his name get slandered and defamed?

The reason I've brought this up is because many Muslims thought that Obama did not support AIPAC until the facts came from his mouth.
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
Salaam,

Thank you sharing the updated news. However, Obama did not specifically apologize, it looks like it was only his campaign members.

Salam Alaikum

I read it and your right he did not apologize. But do i need to apologize to the middle east because I am American and our militia is there and I do not agree? Do I need to apologize because I am muslim and tell America I'm sorry for the world trade center bombing? Does Obama need to keep apologized to the nation because of others that are doing things that hinders is campaign and he did not take part in it? Can someone show me evidence of Barack Obama himself saying or doing something morally wrong?

Salam Amirah
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
Salaam,

If the volunteers for his campaign support Obama (their learder) and Obama relies on his campaign supporters then shouldn't Obama be the first to jump to the media and not let his name get slandered and defamed?

The reason I've brought this up is because many Muslims thought that Obama did not support AIPAC until the facts came from his mouth.

:salam2:
I absolutely get what you are saying but say Obama aplologizes will that change what people already tried to perceive about hearing the information or will they say yeah right he is just saying that he wants to be president. In American the second answer will clearly outweigh the first. For example if I told a non believer we do not practice violence you think they will believe me? If I show proof some will still not believe. My point is apology or no apology by the event peoples minds are made up.

Salam Amirah80
 
Salam Alaikum

I read it and your right he did not apologize. But do i need to apologize to the middle east because I am American and our militia is there and I do not agree? Do I need to apologize because I am muslim and tell America I'm sorry for the world trade center bombing? Does Obama need to keep apologized to the nation because of others that are doing things that hinders is campaign and he did not take part in it? Can someone show me evidence of Barack Obama himself saying or doing something morally wrong?

Salam Amirah


Salaam sister Amirah,

It's nice to hear a different view and I find it a challenge :)

You don't need to apologize but Bush and his leaders does, they are in charge of flying the cockpit of the plane. World trade center bombing - that's a separate issue - which I don't believe was committed by Muslims. Those campaign supporters are Obama's left and right wings. Considering Iran a threat and supporting Israel to me is morally wrong.
 
:salam2:
I absolutely get what you are saying but say Obama aplologizes will that change what people already tried to perceive about hearing the information or will they say yeah right he is just saying that he wants to be president. In American the second answer will clearly outweigh the first. For example if I told a non believer we do not practice violence you think they will believe me? If I show proof some will still not believe. My point is apology or no apology by the event peoples minds are made up.

Salam Amirah80


Salaam,

It's totally subjective. I don't think people are hell bent to their perception. If he apologizes it might not make the U.S. as a whole different, but it can change the attitudes and perceptions of some people, including the two women with the hijab. Human beings have free will. And there some people that when you do show them proof, they will believe. If people didn't have choices, then people like yourself wouldn't be reverting to Islam :)
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
Salaam sister Amirah,

It's nice to hear a different view and I find it a challenge :)

You don't need to apologize but Bush and his leaders does, they are in charge of flying the cockpit of the plane. World trade center bombing - that's a separate issue - which I don't believe was committed by Muslims. Those campaign supporters are Obama's left and right wings. Considering Iran a threat and supporting Israel to me is morally wrong.

:salam2:

On the Bush issue we will not get into it:) Now the people that made the comment were volunteers not campaign representatives. Also the campaign apologized and said that isnt there views and what they support. So as far as the volunteers maybe they should offer an apology. Also we maybe think somewhat alike from your previous comment about Bush. You answer this say they did tell them to relocate their seats Do you think it may have something to do with American trying to associate Obama with muslims to misconceive the American public. So they can start saying he is a terrorist and then risk his role in presidency which can help us in the long run maybe not by every aspect or do you thin McCain is all for the muslims??????

Salam Amirah80
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
Salaam,

It's totally subjective. I don't think people are hell bent to their perception. If he apologizes it might not make the U.S. as a whole different, but it can change the attitudes and perceptions of some people, including the two women with the hijab. Human beings have free will. And there some people that when you do show them proof, they will believe. If people didn't have choices, then people like yourself wouldn't be reverting to Islam :)

:salam2:

Good point :) But in the same aspect the campaign aplogized. People do have choices and that is why it wasnt his choice to tell them woman to move it was the choice of the volunteer not Barack Obama. Believe me since it is his choice maybe he is tried of apologizing for the worlds mistakes he is not accountable to me. If it was me I would have moved because I see the bigger picture of how the media distorts things and finds pleasure in doing so.
Lets be realistic. Just like know the media is eating this up why so the muslms can vote McCain? Also, I did convert to Islam because of choices, right. In the midst of everyone trying to slander Islam I still found the truth. When I did not need an apology from other muslims or Imams in order for me to see the truth. I dont believe Obama is for the muslims because he is a christain but I do believe he wants fairness across the board. And just like I had a choice and saw through the truth without an apology his supporters will see through the truth. See I understand politics and I know nothing personal was intended because politics is a dirty game and they will use whatever necessary against you. Havent we already seen that in Obamas case? (with the Reverend Wright)

Salam Amirah80
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
:salam2:

Just a short video how he is not againt us muslims but does what fairness across the board

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alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
Salaam,

And they claim he transcends images and stereotypes people may have. Now can Muslims please stop supporting him. We need to support and build our own Muslim leaders in our own communities.

:salam2:

No way i am going to support, not after his comments about Palestine and Israel issue
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
It is One thing to say he is Broad in his Ideas but it is another thing to support him and campaign for him like how Muslims are doing.

Which we shouldn't do when this Man is trying to Distance Himself as Far as Possible from Islam and openly saying that he is a Kaffir and has noting to do with Muslims or Islam, why are Muslims still campaigning for him when he is trying to get as far away as possible from them.

And like alkathiri said, there are many Issues which he has which concerns me, and so I don't see him any different then McCain. You shouldn't become Gullible to his Ideas just because he grew up In Indonesia. There are many Enemies of Muslims and Islam who also grew up in Muslim majority countries and learnt about them In order to destroy Muslims and Islam more because of their inside Knowledge about them.
 

wonnee3

Trying 2 plz ALLAH
It is One thing to say he is Broad in his Ideas but it is another thing to support him and campaign for him like how Muslims are doing.

Which we shouldn't do when this Man is trying to Distance Himself as Far as Possible from Islam and openly saying that he is a Kaffir and has noting to do with Muslims or Islam, why are Muslims still campaigning for him when he is trying to get as far away as possible from them.

And like alkathiri said, there are many Issues which he has which concerns me, and so I don't see him any different then McCain. You shouldn't become Gullible to his Ideas just because he grew up In Indonesia. There are many Enemies of Muslims and Islam who also grew up in Muslim majority countries and learnt about them In order to destroy Muslims and Islam more because of their inside Knowledge about them.
As Salaamu Alaikum, who would u rather have a bushie? some1 who has stated that he would bomb them all? oops, sorry that was a she that said that. as 4 myself i feel i have 2 apologize 2 every1 becuz i participated n the process of the voting machine so by defacto i'm part 2 blame even though my candidate did not win. of all the systems n use 2day it has it's flaws but where can u do what we do and not wind up n a secret prison somewhere... ok i take that part back, but not 2 many places have the liberties we have.
 

ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger


Can someone show me evidence of Barack Obama himself saying or doing something morally wrong?

Salam Amirah

OKAY SURE! :biggrin:

Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) vows to send troops to Pakistan and Afghanistan even without permission.
http://www.ogpaper.com/news/news-0821.html

"We Will Wage The War That Has To Be Won"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

"Jerusalem Must Remain Undivided, Israeli Capital"
http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-promises-undivided-jerusalem-as-israeli/79363/

I do believe I've made my point. The man is just as VILE as the rest of them and he is NOT getting my vote just so he can go and attack the land of my family or let the third most sacred Islamic city fall to those murderers.
 
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