Weird nikaah

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Assalamu'alaikum. All praise and thanks be to Allah, The Lord of the Worlds.

Last weekend I attended one nikaah ceremony in the masjid. What shocked me was after the imaam left, the bridegroom took a gold chain which has special pendant place it around the bride's neck (this look similar to hindu tying the "mangal sutra").

Secondly I was told by friend who is the brother for the bride that the couple will be united only after two weeks later. I asked why he said this is the practice.

Pls advise, what is happening? Fyi, this is Indian Muslims wedding (Note: I request everyone to refrain your self from engaging into debates and do generalize all Indian Muslims).

May Allah rewards you for the answers.



Hard Rock Moslem.
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Hmmmm, not sure. I know my Arab friends have a tradition where the groom places lots of her wedding jewelry (basically gifts) on her after the nikaah. I know some Muslims wear an ayah in a pendant around their neck...maybe it's that?

Also some families delay the walimah after the nikaah until after school is completed or some other goal. It's weird because they consider the wedding the "real" ceremony and not the nikaah.
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
well placing jewellery is different from mangal sutra..like christians they get married by wearing the ring and hindus get married by tieing 3 knots of this mangal sutra on the neck of the wife....

usually poor people use thick white thread and colour it yellow with and tie the dry thing on the pic..

but now to make things easy and to show of they make it gold chain and
just put it on her neck..

well to be honest,indian muslims in malaysia or anywhere in this world,still strongly attached to hindus culture....they believe in horoscope,they love tamil movies,they speak tamil,they dress like hindus and they eat indian food...and due to too much of watching tamil movies n all tamil movies show worshipping this statutues
they tend to follow some of these things...

this might happen due to lack of islamic knowledge....

there some indian muslims who behave like malays lol..they know tamil but they wont speak in tamil..they only speak in malay...

this is all because iof ignorance
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
well placing jewellery is different from mangal sutra..like christians they get married by wearing the ring and hindus get married by tieing 3 knots of this mangal sutra on the neck of the wife....

usually poor people use thick white thread and colour it yellow with and tie the dry thing on the pic..

but now to make things easy and to show of they make it gold chain and
just put it on her neck..

well to be honest,indian muslims in malaysia or anywhere in this world,still strongly attached to hindus culture....they believe in horoscope,they love tamil movies,they speak tamil,they dress like hindus and they eat indian food...and due to too much of watching tamil movies n all tamil movies show worshipping this statutues
they tend to follow some of these things...

this might happen due to lack of islamic knowledge....

there some indian muslims who behave like malays lol..they know tamil but they wont speak in tamil..they only speak in malay...

this is all because iof ignorance

Sister, how to say this "adat bersanding" in english? I was told the couple will be united after this adat bersanding only. I told my wife we will skip this function because our scholars here already said this is haraam as similar to hindu customs.
 

hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu brothers and sisters

well to be honest,indian muslims in malaysia or anywhere in this world,still strongly attached to hindus culture....they believe in horoscope,they love tamil movies,they speak tamil,they dress like hindus and they eat indian food...and due to too much of watching tamil movies n all tamil movies show worshipping this statutues
they tend to follow some of these things...

Subhan Allah sister, you're already generalizing by saying that. Although I understand you don't mean to generalize, but most people would think like that after reading your post. I apologize if I didn't make it clear.

Brother hard rock moslem, Insha Allah I will reply you soon. I am in a hurry. I apologize though.

wa/salam
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
well to be honest,indian muslims in malaysia or anywhere in this world,still strongly attached to hindus culture....they believe in horoscope,they love tamil movies,they speak tamil,they dress like hindus and they eat indian food...and due to too much of watching tamil movies n all tamil movies show worshipping this statutues
they tend to follow some of these things...

:salam2:

Do you have something against Indian food sis revert2007 ? :p

I just found it to be funny. :)

I know of a Muslim Guyanese family (Guyana- It is part of West Indies islands in South America). In one of the marriages I have come to know that they have the circling of the fire (diya) on a plate and then , something like puja and then they put this red thing on your forehead like in hindu marriages.

As sister revert rightly said, these people need to have proper Islamic knowledge and they need to know that they shouldn't follow practices of the non-muslims.

May Allah swt keep us all firm on our deen. Ameen

:wasalam:
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
Hmmmm, not sure. I know my Arab friends have a tradition where the groom places lots of her wedding jewelry (basically gifts) on her after the nikaah. I know some Muslims wear an ayah in a pendant around their neck...maybe it's that?

Also some families delay the walimah after the nikaah until after school is completed or some other goal. It's weird because they consider the wedding the "real" ceremony and not the nikaah.

Sister ShyHijabi beat me to it...

I was going to say the same..normally in our Arab weddings the bride's family or the groom's family bring all of the jewelry she received as a nikah and/or gifts for her to wear..as a cultural custom..and so the bride may adorn herself nicely on her special day..

Normally..if the act is not accompanied by a superstitious belief (automatically *unislamic*) such as *the necklace will make their marriage last* or *the wedding band will make them love each other forever*..et cetra..then there shouldn't be a problem with it..because Islam does not stand in the way of culture..so long it does not involve elements which Allah Has made Haram for us..

As for the "union" of the couple..after nikah..it is up to them and their families to decide how soon or how late that union can take place..to each family is an ability and to every couple a set of circumstances..so long the context of their situation is that of *halal* (i.e. they are monkaheen)..then there's no harm inshallah

And Allah Knows best

:wasalam:
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
Last weekend I attended one nikaah ceremony in the masjid. What shocked me was after the imaam left, the bridegroom took a gold chain which has special pendant place it around the bride's neck (this look similar to hindu tying the "mangal sutra").

i think it depends on the intention. he might have given that as mahr (dowry) or a special gift to his wife.
 

ilyas_eh

Used to be active here!
well placing jewellery is different from mangal sutra..like christians they get married by wearing the ring and hindus get married by tieing 3 knots of this mangal sutra on the neck of the wife....

usually poor people use thick white thread and colour it yellow with and tie the dry thing on the pic..

but now to make things easy and to show of they make it gold chain and
just put it on her neck..

well to be honest,indian muslims in malaysia or anywhere in this world,still strongly attached to hindus culture....they believe in horoscope,they love tamil movies,they speak tamil,they dress like hindus and they eat indian food...and due to too much of watching tamil movies n all tamil movies show worshipping this statutues
they tend to follow some of these things...

this might happen due to lack of islamic knowledge....

there some indian muslims who behave like malays lol..they know tamil but they wont speak in tamil..they only speak in malay...

this is all because iof ignorance

assalaamu alyakkum,

it is true that "lots" of muslim living in subcontinent follow many innovation during marriage. :astag: but not all of them. may Allah forgive us all. there is no doubt that these practices have hindu roots.:astag::astag:

but masha Allah in the recent years many ppl r changing in the region. well i dont know about the north india but atleast it is evident in the southern region (tamil nadu) where i live.

as of speaking in tamil, i seriously think sister revert2007 is kidding, cos its none but Allah who created all languages so that people could communicate. and there is no harm in indian food as long as they are Halaal.. LOL.

may Allah forgive ur sins and mine. pls correct me if i am wrong.

salaam.
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother

As for the "union" of the couple..after nikah..it is up to them and their families to decide how soon or how late that union can take place..to each family is an ability and to every couple a set of circumstances..so long the context of their situation is that of *halal* (i.e. they are monkaheen)..then there's no harm inshallah

And Allah Knows best

:wasalam:


The reason I touch on this subject just to ensure this does not correspond with hindu practices. They will usually see horoscopee to determine when, what time etc the couple will be allowed to stay together. I find it weird when I was told the couple will stay their respective parents house for 2 weeks.
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
Could be the reason. But the bride's mom did mentioned to my wife that this is like mangala sutra? Except there was no walking around the fire.

hmmm...then u could be right.

or mayb bride's mom herself doesnt know the reason of this practice :D. actually there is so much ignorance, we ourselves dont know why we are doing such acts.:)

also u know, the bride wears red coloured clothes. i think ths too came frm hindu culture.
 
:salam2: I have never heard of such a WEDDING. Maybe it is a south indian muslim wedding. But i will find out from friends.
 
The Mangalsutra is a symbol of a married woman in India. It is basically a yellow colored thread in which black and golden beads are weaved together. It can also be a golden chain with black beads into it. It is similar to the wedding ring is western cultures, and the Mangalsutra is wore by the woman until the death of his husband. It is also the symbol of union of two different people, i.e. the husband and wife. It can also be considered as the husband’s promise to his wife to live together. Whatever may be the meaning, but the significance of Mangalsutra is the most vital part of an Indian wedding.

Significance Of Mangalsutra In Hindu Marriage
Mangalsutra, as such, is not just a jewelry item, but a sacred thread of love and goodwill worn by married women, as a symbol of their successful marriage. An inevitable part of Hindu marriage ceremony, Mangalsutra refers to a revered symbol of wedlock. India being a land of diversity, different regions in the country have assigned different names for this scared symbol. While it is known as the thaaly or maangalyam in Kannada, Telugu and Tamil in Southern India, people in the northern part of India calls it Mangalsutra. It is believed that the concept of this sacred thread had its roots laid down in South India. Having immense significance and importance, it traveled to North India as well and today, forms an imperative part of the wedding ceremony
Considered auspicious for married women, mangalsutra is believed to have divine powers. Each of the black beads in the Mangalsutra, signify protection from evil power and are believed to protect the marriage of a couple, essentially the life of the husband. Hindu women feel superstitious, when this scared thread breaks or gets lost.
 
:salam2:Why do the Muslim married women not put bindi or tika on the forehead and wear Mangalsutra, like Hindu married women?Why do the Muslim married women not put bindi or tika on the forehead and wear Mangalsutra, like Hindu married women?



1. Bindi or tika



Bindi is derived from the sanskrit word bindu, which means a ‘dot’. It is usually a red dot made with vermilion powder and is worn by the Hindu women between their eyebrows on their forehead.

Bindi is considered a symbol of ‘Parvati’ and signifies female energy which is believed by Hindus to protect women and their husbands. It is traditionally a symbol of marriage and is worn by the Hindu married women. It is also called as tika.



2. Bindi has become a fashion



Nowadays, wearing bindi has become a fashion and is even worn by unmarried girls and women. The shape of the bindi is no longer restricted to a dot and is available in various shapes, including oval, star, heart shaped, etc. It is even available in different bright colours like blue, green, yellow, orange, etc. The material of the bindi is no longer restricted to vermilion powder, but is made of coloured felt and other material. It is also available in a variety of designs in combination with coloured glass, glitter, etc.



3. Mangalsutra



Mangalsutra means a thread of good-will. It is a necklace worn specially by Hindu married women as a symbol of their marriage. It consists of two strings of black beads with a pendant usually of gold. The black beads are believed to act as a protection against evil. It is believed to protect the women’s marriage and the life of her husband. In southern India, mangalsutra is called tali, which is a small gold ornament string on a cotton cord or a gold chain.

Hindu Married women are never supposed to remove their mangalsutra. It is only cut off when a Hindu lady becomes a widow.



4. Allah Is the Protector



Allah (swt), our Creator, is the best to protect human beings. We do not require any red dot or black thread to protect us from evil. It is mentioned in the Glorius Qur’an in Surah Anam Chapter 6 verse 14



"Say: Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth?"

[Al-Qur’an 6:14]



It is mentioned in several places in the Glorius Qur’an including

Surah Ali Imran Chapter 3 Verse 150 and Surah Alhajj Chapter 22 Verse 78



"Allah is your Protector, and He is the best of helpers."



Wearing a bindi or mangalsutra signifies a lack of faith in Almighty God, our Creator, who is the best to protect.



5. Against the Islamic Dress Code



Wearing a bindi or mangalsutra is a sign of Hindu women. The Islamic dress code does not permit a Muslim to wear any sign, symbol or mark which is specially significant of a non-Muslim.



6. In Islam, Both Married and Unmarried women should not be Teased



Once, a Hindu friend of mine, while mentioning the benefits of mangalsutra said that it easily identifies a married women, and thus prevents them from being teased and molested. According to Islam, each and every woman, whether married or unmarried, Muslim or Non-Muslim, should neither be teased nor molested.
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Sister, how to say this "adat bersanding" in english? I was told the couple will be united after this adat bersanding only. I told my wife we will skip this function because our scholars here already said this is haraam as similar to hindu customs.

adat bersanding is like walimah actually but instead of following the sunnah they add more bidaa to it where by they publicly show the bride and do some ritual stuffs...
 
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