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revert2007

Love Fishing
Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim
Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat Allahi wa burrahktohu,

I am going to sound I guess controversial. Please, remember that there is an addab for dealing with the opposite gender, it is not one of avoidance but one of limiting the interaction to speaking or communicating in a way without gentleness, limiting interaction to what is necessary and if for the purposes of seeking knowledge (who better than a married brother to say if my husband is quiet with me at times, is that normal? etceteras... )

Muhammad(saw) and Aisha(ra) in fact did mix with the opposite gender but maintained the necessary intentions in their heart, in their conduct and are both guides to us alhamdulillah.

Allah tells us to stay on the middle path, this means not introducing innovations or extremes in our religion. Yes, it is wise and good advice to not have soft and personal interactions, however, if a message is being left on an open area for a brother or sister, it is wrong to assume it is sinful or think the worst of them. If we see what is clearly harmful then of course we remind inshaAllah. But we must be careful not to judge people when we do not know their intentions and we should not assume that a sin has been committed when the words we read would be acceptable to us if from the same gender as ourselves, if anything, this should be a proof that the exchange is innocent.

Of course we must guard ourselves, but in doing so, we must guard ourselves from going to extremes.

I hope I have not caused offence to anyone.

Fi amanillah

i forgot to add some stuffs..first of all do not ever compare ourselves with the sahabahs and the wives of the prophet pbuh...(u know what i mean)

and Aishah RA didn't use internet those days and freely chat
with male and use smilies..
talking with a male in public and doing it hidden on chatting or forum is too different...so plz becareful when ur saying the sahabah did so and so and the wives di so and so..if u wanna immitate them..then why dont all the women wear niqab?The wives of the prophet pbuh wore niqab..then why don't all of you do jihad
to urself and and go for the war and save ur muslim brothers and sisters who are suffering in gaza..u cant right..so do not say what the sahabahs and wives did because they are so extraordinary people that Allah is very pleased with and they truly worship Allah in away that these days muslims say-EXTREMIST..
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
most of us are aware of that notice that we received. but we still have brothers and sisters on our lists. i just want to say that brothers and sisters dont add one another because of the gender, but because they see good posts or behaviour. if you want to add me, fine. if you dont want to, fine. and yes i agree with sister Asiya. what is at TTI, stays here. there is no need to take it to msn, and if you do then thats a different story. if you know your limits, then you will know how far you can take it. other than that, all of a sudden this thing is becoming big. it wasnt this big before. so why make it big now. and also if we notice, the ones who are on the list dont interact as much as the ones who are not on each others list. i might be wrong. but anyway, it would be great if we all fear Allah and give good examples to one another.

it is becoming big becasue big things happened...so just read what we are saying and obey Allah..do not come and keep on giving on fatwa saying it is fine to chat as long as the intention is good...u can be sure with ur intention but u cant be sure with the other person's intention..are we well prepared to answer Allah why we add guys and spoke to them even we have been warned?????
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
i forgot to add some stuffs..first of all do not ever compare ourselves with the sahabahs and the wives of the prophet pbuh...(u know what i mean)

and Aishah RA didn't use internet those days and freely chat
with male and use smilies..
talking with a male in public and doing it hidden on chatting or forum is too different...so plz becareful when ur saying the sahabah did so and so and the wives di so and so..if u wanna immitate them..then why dont all the women wear niqab?The wives of the prophet pbuh wore niqab..then why don't all of you do jihad
to urself and and go for the war and save ur muslim brothers and sisters who are suffering in gaza..u cant right..so do not say what the sahabahs and wives did because they are so extraordinary people that Allah is very pleased with and they truly worship Allah in away that these days muslims say-EXTREMIST..

there was no internet those days..lol, so we cant say that they are extremes because these things didnt exist back then. doing it on forums is actually not hidden. like vm or threads, posts. but still we should always becareful.
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
it is becoming big becasue big things happened...so just read what we are saying and obey Allah..do not come and keep on giving on fatwa saying it is fine to chat as long as the intention is good...u can be sure with ur intention but u cant be sure with the pther person's intention..are we well prepared to answer Allah why we add guys and spoke to them even we have been warned?????

big things happen, so thats why everyone should know not to unnecessarily take it to msn or yahoo, whatever you have. where did i give a fatwa?? i wasnt talking about chat in msn, but vm where everyone can see, and even that i said we should becareful. instead of the word friend, it should just be changed to brothers or sisters.

thats why i said it would be great if we all fear Allah and be careful and try to keep our intentions good.
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
big things happen, so thats why everyone should know not to unnecessarily take it to msn or yahoo, whatever you have. where did i give a fatwa?? i wasnt talking about chat in msn, but vm where everyone can see, and even that i said we should becareful. instead of the word friend, it should just be changed to brothers or sisters.

thats why i said it would be great if we all fear Allah and be careful and try to keep our intentions good.

that is what i have been saying fear ALlah and do the right things...precaution is better than cure

give me a good reason why we should talk to the opposite sex?quote from quran and hadith now....

i can quote many proofs to tell everyone that it is not allowed...just because everyone is doing it,it doesn't make it halal in Islam...
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Question

Is it permissible for a wife to have male friends? my wife has some male friends that i don't know personally, and it does bother me, i seek guidance as to how to deal with this situation without upsetting my wife, but making her understand.


Answer
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, thank you very much for having confidence in us, and we hope our efforts, which are purely for His Sake, meet your expectations.

In his response to the question in point, Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, former president of the Islamic Society of North America, states the following:

“The issue of friendship here has nothing to do with being Muslim or non-Muslim. You should not have taken Muslim or non-Muslim males as your friends. The Qur’an and the Sunnah have given us rules about relations between men and women.

There are two types of people: Mahram and non-Mahram. Mahram are those relatives between whom marriage is not allowed. Non-Mahram are those among whom marriage is permissible. Referring to this, Allah Almighty says: “ Forbidden unto you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your father's sisters, and your mother's sisters, and your brother's daughters and your sister's daughters, and your foster mothers, and your foster sisters, and your mothers-in-law, and your stepdaughters who are under your protection (born) of your women unto whom ye have gone in but if ye have not gone in unto them, then it is no sin for you (to marry their daughters) and the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins. And (it is forbidden unto you) that ye should have two sisters together, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (An-Nisaa’: 23)

Muslim men and women can socialize among the Mahrams, but not among the non-Mahrams. When men and women are in the presence of non-Mahrams then they must lower their gaze. Allah Almighty says: “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigor, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed. And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid servants. If they be poor; Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.” (An-Nur: 30-31)

He Almighty also says: “O ye wives of the Prophet! Ye are not like any other women. If ye keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft of speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire (to you), but utter customary speech.” (Al-Ahzab: 32)

Hence it is clear that Islam does not allow Muslims to have friends from the opposite gender. Males should not have female friends and females should not have male friends. Non-Mahram males and females may talk to each other, but should not socialize or go out in parties.

A single male and female should never be together in a place where they are all alone, isolated without the access of any one else. Islam has given these rules to save men and women from committing sin or getting involved in situations where they might commit sin.

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galadari

Junior Member
Question

Is it permissible for a wife to have male friends? my wife has some male friends that i don't know personally, and it does bother me, i seek guidance as to how to deal with this situation without upsetting my wife, but making her understand.


Answer
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, thank you very much for having confidence in us, and we hope our efforts, which are purely for His Sake, meet your expectations.

In his response to the question in point, Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, former president of the Islamic Society of North America, states the following:

“The issue of friendship here has nothing to do with being Muslim or non-Muslim. You should not have taken Muslim or non-Muslim males as your friends. The Qur’an and the Sunnah have given us rules about relations between men and women.

There are two types of people: Mahram and non-Mahram. Mahram are those relatives between whom marriage is not allowed. Non-Mahram are those among whom marriage is permissible. Referring to this, Allah Almighty says: “ Forbidden unto you are your mothers, and your daughters, and your sisters, and your father's sisters, and your mother's sisters, and your brother's daughters and your sister's daughters, and your foster mothers, and your foster sisters, and your mothers-in-law, and your stepdaughters who are under your protection (born) of your women unto whom ye have gone in but if ye have not gone in unto them, then it is no sin for you (to marry their daughters) and the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins. And (it is forbidden unto you) that ye should have two sisters together, except what hath already happened (of that nature) in the past. Lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (An-Nisaa’: 23)

Muslim men and women can socialize among the Mahrams, but not among the non-Mahrams. When men and women are in the presence of non-Mahrams then they must lower their gaze. Allah Almighty says: “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigor, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed. And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid servants. If they be poor; Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.” (An-Nur: 30-31)

He Almighty also says: “O ye wives of the Prophet! Ye are not like any other women. If ye keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft of speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire (to you), but utter customary speech.” (Al-Ahzab: 32)

Hence it is clear that Islam does not allow Muslims to have friends from the opposite gender. Males should not have female friends and females should not have male friends. Non-Mahram males and females may talk to each other, but should not socialize or go out in parties.

A single male and female should never be together in a place where they are all alone, isolated without the access of any one else. Islam has given these rules to save men and women from committing sin or getting involved in situations where they might commit sin.

source


jazakallah khair sis.. thats was really helpful and i am very much delighted to see that even the moderator has taken the initiative and has posted noticeborad requesting to avoid mixing through messages with the opposite gender..may allah reward them.. and may allah reward you too sis..... jazakallah khair.walykumsalam
 

rightpath_357

Junior Member
aaah! serious?? oh no, all those nafl prayers gone :( i prayed nafl prayers before and after each exams. i hope that Allah will accept them and hopefully i will get exceptional grades. why is it forbidden, i thought we could pray it any time. and sunnat for fajr is always before the fajr prayers after the azan.
Hey sis- Salamu Alakum. Well, I was told at a halaqa, that we were not allowed to pray nafl or anything like that at sunrise or sunset, becauseee--people used to worship the sun, like the Queen in Prophet Sulaman's time. They used to worship the sun when it rose, and I think they worshipped it when it was setting too. Also, we should make our Fajr prayer 'kazza' instead of regular, because we missed the time to do it, and if we made it regualr, it would be like worshipping the sun. I hope this helps- AND that u get good grades! :lol: :D:SMILY139:
 

Asiya-sparkles

Junior Member
there is no such thinsg extremist in islam..do u thin it is that easy to enter Jannah?think about it...

we don't judge anyone whether they commit sins or not even i personally have proof they did but i don't have to tell the whole world as long as Allah knows what I am saying..i dont come to tti and post a thread without proof..i think carefully before posting each thread..we are not blaming anyone and we should blame ourselves....each and everyone of us should question ourselves-how far we have gone in such mixing with opposite genders..if we dont question ourselves now and we don't repent,Allah will question us on the Day of Judgement...

DO YOU THINK ENTERING JANNAH IS A PIECE OF CAKE?THINK ABOUT IT

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat allahi wa burrahktohu,

Bismillah
Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem

Dear sister,

It is unfortunate that you have taken offence, but Islam is a religion of the middle way and one of ease for us, we must obey Allah subhana wa t'ala. I would correct you in the case of stating that our beloved Prophet(saw) committed sins Astarghfirullah, he was the walking Qu'ran and he(saw) taught women once a week their deen. He also had women in his(saw) congregations.

Aisha(ra) also answered questions to both genders, and she is considered a formidable scholar of hadiths and the sunnah naturally so. Aisha(ra) is a mother of the believers so please, please, be full of the respect and care to preserve her good name and character as even Allah subhana wa t'ala came to her defence by revelation.

There is of course a cautious path to be trod in gender interactions, but it is not forbidden to interact with each other as long as we know and respect the limits of doing so.

there is indeed such a thing as being extreme in our deen. It is well documented, it is disliked, and it is a matter that can lead to innovations and all innovations are paths of misguidance.

I leave you in the care of Allah subhana wa t'ala.
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat allahi wa burrahktohu,

Bismillah
Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem

Dear sister,

It is unfortunate that you have taken offence, but Islam is a religion of the middle way and one of ease for us, we must obey Allah subhana wa t'ala. I would correct you in the case of stating that our beloved Prophet(saw) committed sins Astarghfirullah, he was the walking Qu'ran and he(saw) taught women once a week their deen. He also had women in his(saw) congregations.

Aisha(ra) also answered questions to both genders, and she is considered a formidable scholar of hadiths and the sunnah naturally so. Aisha(ra) is a mother of the believers so please, please, be full of the respect and care to preserve her good name and character as even Allah subhana wa t'ala came to her defence by revelation.

There is of course a cautious path to be trod in gender interactions, but it is not forbidden to interact with each other as long as we know and respect the limits of doing so.

there is indeed such a thing as being extreme in our deen. It is well documented, it is disliked, and it is a matter that can lead to innovations and all innovations are paths of misguidance.

I leave you in the care of Allah subhana wa t'ala.


excuse me ..which line says that I said our prophet pbuh committing sin?do not accuse without proof..quote the line now...

am not being extremist but am talking to those involved in this situation..if ur doing fine then go ahead but do not accuse me of something that i didn't say..read carefully what i wrote befero accusing me such things
 

Asiya-sparkles

Junior Member
i forgot to add some stuffs..first of all do not ever compare ourselves with the sahabahs and the wives of the prophet pbuh...(u know what i mean)

and Aishah RA didn't use internet those days and freely chat
with male and use smilies..
talking with a male in public and doing it hidden on chatting or forum is too different...so plz becareful when ur saying the sahabah did so and so and the wives di so and so..if u wanna immitate them..then why dont all the women wear niqab?The wives of the prophet pbuh wore niqab..then why don't all of you do jihad
to urself and and go for the war and save ur muslim brothers and sisters who are suffering in gaza..u cant right..so do not say what the sahabahs and wives did because they are so extraordinary people that Allah is very pleased with and they truly worship Allah in away that these days muslims say-EXTREMIST..


Bismillah,

Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem.

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat Allahi wa burrahktohu,

La hawla wa'la quwatta illah billah.

I first remind you that you are in discussion with a sister in Islam, and I therefore respectfully ask you to communicate with me in a respectful manner as I do with you. We do not compare ourselves with the sahabah, but we do take our deen from the Prophet(saw), the quran and we know that the conduct of the sahabah are very much evidences of how we are able to behave. If we recognise our own weaknesses, and this is one of the purposes of reflection and meditation, then we avoid areas where we will fall into fitnah.

When you say 'and you know what i mean... No, I am sorry, I do not, so if you could actually clarify that for me i would be very grateful inshaAllah. I do wear niqab, hijab and a very very loose abayah. I also am careful inshaAllah not to be to warm or intimate with my brothers in the deen, however, i do believe that manners are important regardless of gender.

To me you say why not go and fight in gaza? La hawla wala quwatta illah billah. Instead, I make efforts in ways that inshaAllah will be accepted. All women who are married do indeed serve jihad in that case, it is the second highly rewardable act of worship following hajj.

When a message or discussion between a brother and sister is only focused upon the deen and has the intention of pursuing knowledge and also does not contain anything which either would be ashamed to have known, then there is no harm in this. Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem, sister, I leave you with a wonderful wise quote of imam shafi, when he tells us, that he has learned this

"the more I learn, the more I realise how ignorant I am".

Do I believe it is a simple thing to enter paradise? Astarghfirullah, no-one will enter paradise based on their deeds alone dear sister, nor upon directing people to acts or stopping acts based upon good intentions alone, we do as we are able to observe the laws decreed by Allah subhana wa t'ala. We ask Allah to guide us all to a path that is pleasing to Him and we ask that our ilm grows and that we are careful not to earn sins by what our tongues utter.

We should all strive to be God conscious, because if there is ever an excellent guard for us, it is in remembrance of our Rabb.

Leaving you in the care of Allah

P.S.

I do not, and have never considered tha sahabah to be extreme, in fact the reverse, I believe that the community of muhammad(saw) is one that we should strive to acheive in our own lifetime, for they were indeed the very best community. I also believe strongly, that we should obey Allah, for it is not fitting for a believer to decide a matter when they have stated that they are muslim (one who submits their own will, freely, to instead doing what is the will of Allah subhana wa t'ala)

Aside from muhammad(saw) there is no perfect human being, and we all know that, but we should be cautious of becoming hypervigilant and going to extremes and creating restrictions and limits that are not part of Islam. I am sure you agree sister.
 

Asiya-sparkles

Junior Member
we don't judge anyone whether they commit sins or not even i personally have proof they did but i don't have to tell the whole world

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat allahi wa burrahktohu,
Bismillah ar-Rahaman ar-Rahim
aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem

dear sister,
This is your words in response to my original post.

How are you asking me to read this? What did you mean?

Jazak alak khairun
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
Bismillah,

Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem.

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat Allahi wa burrahktohu,

La hawla wa'la quwatta illah billah.

I first remind you that you are in discussion with a sister in Islam, and I therefore respectfully ask you to communicate with me in a respectful manner as I do with you. We do not compare ourselves with the sahabah, but we do take our deen from the Prophet(saw), the quran and we know that the conduct of the sahabah are very much evidences of how we are able to behave. If we recognise our own weaknesses, and this is one of the purposes of reflection and meditation, then we avoid areas where we will fall into fitnah.

When you say 'and you know what i mean... No, I am sorry, I do not, so if you could actually clarify that for me i would be very grateful inshaAllah. I do wear niqab, hijab and a very very loose abayah. I also am careful inshaAllah not to be to warm or intimate with my brothers in the deen, however, i do believe that manners are important regardless of gender.

To me you say why not go and fight in gaza? La hawla wala quwatta illah billah. Instead, I make efforts in ways that inshaAllah will be accepted. All women who are married do indeed serve jihad in that case, it is the second highly rewardable act of worship following hajj.

When a message or discussion between a brother and sister is only focused upon the deen and has the intention of pursuing knowledge and also does not contain anything which either would be ashamed to have known, then there is no harm in this. Aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem, sister, I leave you with a wonderful wise quote of imam shafi, when he tells us, that he has learned this

"the more I learn, the more I realise how ignorant I am".

Do I believe it is a simple thing to enter paradise? Astarghfirullah, no-one will enter paradise based on their deeds alone dear sister, nor upon directing people to acts or stopping acts based upon good intentions alone, we do as we are able to observe the laws decreed by Allah subhana wa t'ala. We ask Allah to guide us all to a path that is pleasing to Him and we ask that our ilm grows and that we are careful not to earn sins by what our tongues utter.

We should all strive to be God conscious, because if there is ever an excellent guard for us, it is in remembrance of our Rabb.

Leaving you in the care of Allah


Well i myself wear niqab,khimar and loose abaya and I know and notice wrong things in this forum.I am asking everyone to behave themselves and becareful with the opposite sex because that is what all scholors said and that is what written in qurana nd hadith..When i say "do u know what i mena" it means te prophet pbuh and his wives are assure of Jannah and their iman are very great.BUt who are we?we do not know where we will end up..there are some things are permissible for the prophet pbuh to do such as marrying more than 4 wives yet it is forbidden for us.So please never ever compare ourselves with the prophet pbuh and his beloevd wives because we are just human who always fail into syaitan's trap.So if it is ok for the propeht pbuh to talk to women and doesn't mena it is ok for sisters and brother in thos forum to add each other on msn and yahoo and leave all kind of VMs and Pms..I have a great intention of telling everyone an d myself about this issue and thsoe know me well know what i mean.Rather than arguing and saying that Islam is not extremist and so and so,think carefully..Islam is not idfficult and i know that evry well and that the raeson i accepted islam.At the same time none of us can give our own fatwa saying it is ok to talk to opposite gender as long as our intention is good.u know ur intention,what about the person ur chatting to?we can never know anyone's intention...Precaution is better than cure..Rather than saying JazakaAllahu khairan for a good reminder,i don't understand why people will come and argue with me even after giving the proof from quran and hadith..AStafirullah Al athim
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
yes sis...
alhamdulillah! your right! i have stopped doing these kind of acts long back..now inshallah! my visitor msgs, and pm will be filled with sisters..inshallah!
 

slave_of_Allah

Junior Member
Assalamualikum to everyone.
It is very sad to say that there are members mixing without any fear of Allah on msn and Pm each other.It might sound very drastic here but I am saying with proofs .

It is enough of sisters and brothers pming each other and asking how you and talking things which is not related to islam.If you want the proof,check their visitor messages.How they write to each other with smilies and so on.

Many of them add each other on the msn as well.And please stop doing that if it is opposite gender...I personally have taken the drastic steps not to pm any brothers even if it is bout islam or dawah purpose.And to whoever I didn't reply the pm please forgive me.

And sisters especially the young ones,stop pm new comers and adding him on msn.We need great iman to deal with opposite sex and we can just fail and get into syaitan's trap..

There are many brothers here who can take care of the new brothers and the sisters just stick to sisters only.

Another thing I would like to point out,do not use too much smilies when there are opposite sex on the thread and start teasing each other.I did myself and I repent for Allah sake.Just state your opinion without any smilies.We are not here to have fun and get to know each other.We are here only for one motive-LEARN ISLAM AND SPREAD ALLAH'S WORD

I do not wnat anyone come to me and question about other people whay they can add the opposite sex.We cannot change the whole world,but we can change ourselves.And we can never know ones iman.Perhaps that person is the one with great iman and he knows what he is doing.There might be various reason why the person add the opposite sex and only Allah knows..As a member,it is enough for us to come here to learn about islam.TTi is not facebook or Myspace of friendster that you can add opposite sex and so on and tease each other.

Honestly some of you have seen the consequences of doing so.Repent now and no more pm opposite sex even if it is about islam.If you have doubts,as someone from the same sex or post a thread.

And reverts ssters,becareful whom pm you.If it is opposite sex,just ignore or report to the moderator quickly.

I won't be able to get all the news to report but Allah is my witness and He will take care of everything and please fear Allah before you do any action.

If there are people being deleted or bann,then there is a very solid reason to do so and I don't wnat anyone to question that.Allah knows everything and He is watching everything.So as long as your being a good muslim and your intention is good,you shouldn't be worried.

Assalamualikum

This was the reason why I left TTI and was hestiate to post. I pray that others take benefit from your words ukhtii. Allah bless you with al Firadausal A'la. Aameen.
 

Asiya-sparkles

Junior Member
jazakallah khair sis.. thats was really helpful and i am very much delighted to see that even the moderator has taken the initiative and has posted noticeborad requesting to avoid mixing through messages with the opposite gender..may allah reward them.. and may allah reward you too sis..... jazakallah khair.walykumsalam

He Almighty also says: “O ye wives of the Prophet! Ye are not like any other women. If ye keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft of speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire (to you), but utter customary speech.” (Al-Ahzab: 32)

Hence it is clear that Islam does not allow Muslims to have friends from the opposite gender. Males should not have female friends and females should not have male friends. Non-Mahram males and females may talk to each other, but should not socialize or go out in parties.

A single male and female should never be together in a place where they are all alone, isolated without the access of any one else. Islam has given these rules to save men and women from committing sin or getting involved in situations where they might commit sin.

Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim
aauthu billahi minish shaytan nirajeem
La hawla wala quwatta illah billah

Assalamu alaikom wa rahmat allahi wa burrahktohu
InshaAllah, I hope that you recognise that what i have been saying is covered here inshaAllah.

Fi amanillah
 

Mrmuslim

Smile you are @ TTI
Staff member
Salaam Alikom

Even though the thread is closed I wanted to write because this been going on with heated debate more than a conversation, even both of you have good points to make but Islamic wise we need to know whats right and whats wrong and advise others.

Some time we tend to shut all the door on people before we even give the chance to learn, we forget that people learn step by step, even people who commit sins, they can not give it up by day and night it takes time to teach and it takes time to learn, we cant just jump and assume if a brother or sister posted an smile in a posting that his or her intention is ill. A lot of brother and sister who grow up in western society need time to understand, there are limits of dealing man and woman together, so we need to teach them step by step not by ordering them.

Just because I am posting an smile here :SMILY259: means I have bad intention or I am trying to get attention of some one, on other hand too many of smiles and jokes between sisters and brothers remove the islamic limits we should have while dealing with opposite gender.



We need be carefull of posting what we doing, as wearing niqab and fully covering doesn't mean that other sisters who dont wear niqab are wrong, they might short coming in fulfilling some duties, but still some of them trying.
So we need to be very careful about what we are saying, each one of us posting according to our understanding.

the statement you see on TTI

Assalamu alaykum, Brothers and Sisters, Please do not post Visitor Messages or Private Messages to any person from the Opposite Sex. -- Make your friendships with your own Gender! This website is for Learning Islam. Please Fear Allah.

Is for people who come on TTI and they think its a chatting or mingling place,
Islam doesn't say its haram for a woman to speak to another man as long as its under Islamic teaching within Islamic rules, and please dont get an Idea that I am saying that its ok for boys and girls to mingle or talk freely as they wants.

Islam puts limits and rules for everything, as at the time of omar bin khatab, Women can engage in business and commerce. Take the case of Qailah Umm-Bani Atmar, one of the merchant ladies. She said, "I am a woman who buys and sells". (Al Isabah). Umar Ibn Al Khattab entrusted the supervision of administrative market affairs to Shaff'a bint Abdullah bin Abd Shams. Umar used to seek her counsel, pay due regard to her and hold her in high esteem. (Al-Isabah). In this regard the dialogue between Abu Al-Yasar and a woman who came to purchase dates from him, is also significant to show how women went about shopping (Trimithi).


Also as Khadija Radi Allah Anhaa she was a business woman, and who hired the prophe peace be up on him to take care of her caravan,


Lubabah bint Al-Harith, it is stated, was one of the first ladies after Sayyedah Khadijah, to embrace Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to visit her and take his mid-day nap in her house. Umm-Waraga was a lady that the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to visit. The Prophet (peace be upon him) allowed her to pray at home and to lead her staff, male and female, in prayer (Abu Dawoud). It was she who, when the Prophet (peace be upon him) conducted the battle of Badr, requested him to allow her to accompany him so that she might treat the patients and that perhaps God might bless her with martyrdom. (Al-Isabah). Fatimah bint Asad bin Hashim was a very pious lady. The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to visit her and take his mid-day nap in her house. (Tabaqat)


My point is here that Islam is very simple and easy religion and the prophet peace be up on him said in a hadith, ( Meaning of the hadit) that I advise you to be kind and gentle for there is no kindness in a thing but it adorns it.

And remember you both are Muslim sisters,and remeber the hadith which was posted on TTI,
Do you know what is better than charity and fasting and prayer? It is keeping peace and good relations between people, as quarrels and bad feelings destroy mankind." (Muslims & Bukhari

Kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever is not kind has no faith." (Muslim)

Dont take the above ahadith and apply it while you at work and dealing with sisters or sisters dealing with brothers, read through both sisters posting and remember we are Muslim we dont need to get in to an arugument while we all tryingto advising each other no one is better than the other excet by Taqwa of Allah s.w.t and none of us know this.

wa jazaakom Allah khair.

Wa salaam alikom
 
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