help! questions about death / grave / being barried

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salam to all.

today 8am in the morning i got a phone call from my parents confirming the death of my aunties husband, being my uncle.

he has been very very very ill for months fighting his cancer and very sick deseases. his been in and out of hospital.

my aunty being my mothers sister, she went through so much helping him. washing for him, taking him to the bathroom, holding, helping him get up and on bed and move, feeding him, cleaning his urine and stool and so much.
may allah grant her Jannah and forgive alllllll her sins. she is a very very good person and i do believe inshallah and hope inshallah allah will grant her jannah.

as for my uncle being my aunties husband, his a bit tuff. his got so much anger and always rude to everyone. sometimes he has that total different personality where he is so nice. personally, i love him so much because i believe everyone is created with a different personality and different brain, for him to be the way he is, i accept it because its the way allah wrote for him to be. i always let him go when he said something wrong to me or someone next to me, i always ignored and never took it personal no matter how bad it was.

so many people fought with him about his comments, couldnt handle his comments etc. but they still loved him and always visited him.

his treated my aunty bad as we heard and as we've seen. but... if there was not a sign of some good inside him or some love, my aunty would not have stayed with him, people would not have visited him, people would not have forgiven him etc.

they barried him before douhr, i want to know, what happens to him now? does the angel visit him straight away and ask him the questions of who is your god, what is your religion, what is your kitab, etc. then what happens in the grave? does the person go to hell or heaven straight away? i know they get punished in the grave, but how does the punishment happen as in does he actually wake up from his body, is it his soul, does his body get punished or his soul. will his soul be in the grave with his body?

all the question im asking, the answer is probably 'allah aa'lam' only allah knows. but is there a surah on the death or any hadith that might answer my questions.

is it haram that i am pondering and thinking about what will happen to me or someone like my uncle when we die and get barried.

do we stay sleeping?

i want to picture what is happening to my uncle in his grave. as in, there is an angel, asking him questions, telling him and reminding him of all the good and bad his done, weighing his sins and deeds, talking to him, visiting him. telling him that his going to hell or heaven. does his body actually sit up in the grave / coffen after his family burry him? and thats how he communicates.

okay i better stop, im pondering too much. i hope its not haram. but this made me very upset and scared and cry and closer to allah and fear allah more. thats just what i felt. subhan allah, may allah forgive us. thinking about death is a very serious thing and emotional.
 

JenGiove

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today 8am in the morning i got a phone call from my parents confirming the death of my aunties husband, being my uncle.

My deepest condolences to you and your family on the loss of a family member. It is never easy to loose someone.

he has been very very very ill for months fighting his cancer and very sick deseases. his been in and out of hospital...............


.... but this made me very upset and scared and cry and closer to allah and fear allah more. thats just what i felt. subhan allah, may allah forgive us. thinking about death is a very serious thing and emotional.

As I am not a Muslim, I will not even begin to try to answer your deeper questions, but, from what little I do know and as a fellow human being I think I can tell you that ANYTHING that makes you draw closer to Creator and fear his disappointment is a good thing.

There is a known process to grief and each is essential to the wellness of the soul. It is in how were react to that process that is the key. You may experience anger that someone you loved was not the person you wish he was. That is alright, but as you say, there is a reason for his having been that way. Our error would be in turning to our fellow humans and taking that anger out on them.

Allow yourself to feel all the feelings, even the not so pleasant ones, for it is in how we address them that we grow and become closer to Creator's love. Eventually, the pain/anger/disbelief/denial/remorse fades and the love returns, bring with it only the good.

I am deeply sorry for your loss.
 

Azhar07

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Dear friend as the answers to your questions are 'allah aa'lam' only allah knows, from the words of Muhammed(s) we do get somewhat of what happens during and after a person's death.


Muhammed(s) defined death into two:

1) Death of a Holy soul
2) Death of a Unholy soul


Death of a Holy soul


When the time for death arrives for a pure soul; many Angels with beautiful face which shines like sun from heaven arrives to his side with many beautiful heavenly odors and sits all around him, then the Angel (Malakul Mouth) arives at his head side and invites the soul " O , pure soul I welcome you to Allah's magfirath " . Then the soul comes out of the body freely just like water from a jug. Then the Angels takes him to the other world, on the way each and every angels enquires who is that pure soul, the other angels describe about him at the highest order and the journey continues and they reaches the door of the first sky, the door opens and they go all the way to seventh sky; At the Allah the almighty says " Record everything on ILLIYAN of my slave and send him back to earth as it is where I created him and I shall again unite his body with soul." And his soul is again united with body in the grave.

Then two angels appears [Many scholars believe that it happens after his body is buried and after the last person walk 7 steps away from his grave] and asks "

Who is thy Lord ?",
he replies " My Lord is Allah";
"What is your Deen" ?
"My deen is Islam";
"Who is this person " ?
" He is Allah's messenger" ;
"What is your knowledge " ?
" My Knowledge is Qur'an",



Then a heavenly voice says " My slave speaks truth, give him the pleasures of heaven and open the door of heaven for him". Then the heaven is shown in front him and he will see the heaven till the Judgment day arrives. He prays to Allah " O ! my lord please bring the Judgment day sooner as I could enjoy the heaven then ".





Death of a Unholy soul

Here the situation is different and worse, as the time arrives angels with scary faces rounds the unholy soul just as policemen rounds around a criminal, seeing all this the soul tries to hide deep within the body and begs " Oh ! lord please give me a chance I'll change myself and will become god" But it is of no use then. Then the angels roar " Come out !! you have been very unfaithful and not loyal to your creator and you shall suffer from now on " And they all forcefully rips the soul from the body. It will smell the worst ever smell in the world.And the angels carries him to the first sky , on the way all the angels enquires who is this dirty and unholy soul and the angels with the soul describes about him in the worst possible. And they finally reaches the door to the first sky, where the guardians of the door stops them from going any further, then Allah says " Put all his records in the underworld of SIJJEEN"; then they angels throw the soul to Earth. And his body and soul reunited, the angels asks him



"Who is your lord ?"
he replies " I don't know";
"What is your Deen ?"
" I don't know";
"Who is this person send to you ? "
" I don't know";


Then a voice says " He is a lair,give him a blanket of hell and open the door of hell for him". Suddenly the place hots up with the heat of Hell and a person approaches him who wears the worst of dress and smells so bad whose face is decayed and the worst. He is the sins who will be his companion till the judgment day. The soul then prays " Oh ! lord please extend the Judgment day, I don't want to be in this Hell".






It is not haram to think about Death, questioning and Judgment day. It will help us to increase our Iman and our fear of the Almighty.


May Allah save us from the hell and punishments within and let all of us in the holy heaven. May Allah increase the size of our Qabar. May Allah forgive our sins.


:wasalam:
 

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Eventually, the pain/anger/disbelief/denial/remorse fades and the love returns, bring with it only the good.

I am deeply sorry for your loss.

thank u so much. may the creator guide us all to the right path.

thank you so much for your wonderful words and points.
 

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:salam2:

Muhammed(s) defined death into two:

1) Death of a Holy soul
2) Death of a Unholy soul


Death of a Holy soul



thank you so much, it really gave me goosebumps. we should be working hard to worship allah, harder than what we think so we can have a holy soul. we would not want to return to allah with an unholy soul, it fears me more not knowing how i rank to allah, am i a good person or just because i think and feel im a good person and do good, doesnt mean thats enough or that thats all it takes to have a holy soul. we have to strive more and worship more and work harder no matter how much we think we are doing good.

this ramadan, i did very very good. i rank this comparing it to other ramadans, but is this enough worship, to be honest, i think i would have been able to do more, but i was tired sometimes, i had the kids, had to make dinner, clean the house, im moving out so i had to organise all that etc. but is it okay that these duties of ours limit us from worshiping allah more than what we usually do even though we remember him throughout the day? as in, do we have to organise and plan ourselves more so that we have space for extra worship? we have to add worship part of our daily plan / routines.

i guess being a housewife, cooking and cleaning and raising kids, thats part of worshiping allah right? allah will be happy with those who do this?

salam, subhan allah, a death of a relative / friend, it actually brings us closer to allah than ever. alhumdulilah for these feelings, is this a type of worship too? pondering of allahs creation and the good we rank?
 

ahmed_indian

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thank you so much but every time i click on this link, it says ;internet website can not display this web' or something like that.

:salam2:,

strange! its working here properly. its actually the post of sister saima abdullah *first night in grave*.

its there on 1st or 2nd page of Islamic discussion. you can click on that inshallah
 

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:salam2:,

strange! its working here properly. its actually the post of sister saima abdullah *first night in grave*.

its there on 1st or 2nd page of Islamic discussion. you can click on that inshallah

thank you, but i realised it was an error at my end. everytime i clicked on a link, it wouldnt come up and i assumed it was from the link. my brother did something to settings / options so i can use it now. thank you heaps.
 
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