Calenders

JenGiove

Junior Member
:salam2: Brothers and Sisters,

A conversation lead me to looking up the reasons why the Islamic day starts at sundown <which I'm still working on an understandable answer for> but I found this interesting link about the differences between the Western, Islamic, Jewish and Chinese calenders.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-the-western-islamic-and-jewish-calendars.htm

There are many ways of marking time — the day, the month, and the year. Presently, we have three main calendars based on different ways of marking time — the Western calendar, also called the Christian calendar or the Gregorian calendar; the Islamic calendar or Hijri calendar; and the Jewish calendar or Hebrew calendar.

Perhaps the fundamental way to categorize calendars is by their core event; that is, what the calendar is based on. The Christian or Western calendar is a lunar calendar based on Christ’s birth. Even though there is a different labeling system between the religious and the secular, the years are set around Christ’s birth. In religious and traditional secular use, the years according to the Western calendar are labeled in a way that directly acknowledges the base date as being Jesus’ birth. That is, the year is labeled as BC for Before Christ or AD, Anno Domini, or, in the year of our Lord. More and more, secular uses employ a newer marking system which doesn’t recognize that the dates correspond to Christ’s birth. They mark the year as BCE or CE where BCE stands for Before the Common Era, and CE stands for the Current Era, Common Era, or Christian Era.

The Gregorian calendar is generally used synonymously with the Christian and Western calendar. The Gregorian version, however, was actually named after Pope Gregory XIII. It has a year comprised of 12 months and 365 days, 366 in a leap year, which occurs by adding a day in February every four years. While the Gregorian calendar is based on the Julian calendar — the calendar was introduced around 45 BCE by Julius Caesar after consulting an astronomer — the Gregorian calendar is also based on the year of Christ’s birth.

The Gregorian calendar sought to improve on its predecessors. The purpose was to have a more regular format than the lunar calendars and Julian calendar. The Gregorian calendar took the place of the Julian calendar around the end of the 16th Century.

The Islamic calendar is based on the emigration of the Prophet Muhammad and his fellow Muslims, the Companions or Sahabah, from Mecca to Medina. The emigration is said to have been commanded by God after many years of Muslim persecution. The emigration took place in 622 AD or CE according to the Western Calendar or 4382 AM (Anno Mundi, or in the year of the world) according to the Jewish calendar. Hirah is Arabic for emigration and so, the Islamic calendar is also called the Hijri calendar. Years prior to the emigration are labeled as BH, Before Hijra, while years after the emigration are labeled as AH, Anno Hijra or In the year of Hijra. The calendar is based on the lunar year, has about 354 days and 12 months, each with either 29 or 30 days. The names of the months are Muharram, Safar, Rabiul-Awwal, Rabi-uthani, Jumada al-awwal, Jumada al-thani, Rajab, Sha’ban, Ramadan, Shawwal, Dhil-Q’ada, and Dhil-Hijja.


The Jewish calendar is a lunisolar calendar and is based on creation which is said to have occurred — around 3760 BCE according to the Western Calendar. The Jewish calendar, or the Hebrew calendar, has anywhere from 353 to 385 days, and 12 months, 13 in a leap year. Months have 29 or 30 days: Nissan, Iyar, Sivan, Tammuz, Av, Elul, Tishri, Cheshvan, Kislev, Tevet, Shevat, and Adar. In a leap year Adar I is inserted after Shevat, and the existing month of Adar is called Adar II — the thirteenth month. While the Western and Islamic calendars have a new year beginning with the first month, the new year according to the Jewish calendar begins in the seventh, not first, month of the year.
Another way these types of calendars differ is when the new day begins. In the Julian, Gregorian, Western and Christian calendars, the day begins at midnight. The Islamic and Jewish calendars, however, begin at sundown.


There are many other types of calendars; the Western calendar is perhaps the most popular, however. Another popular type of calendar — the Chinese calendar — is still used today for Chinese holidays and for astrological purposes. It is a lunisolar calendar with 12 months in a regular year and 13 months every second or third year. Days in the Chinese calendar begin at 11 PM, not midnight. While there is some dispute over when the Chinese calendar began, most believe it began somewhere around 2600 to 2500 BCE according to the Western Calendar.
 

Munawar

Striving for Paradise
:salam2:

You are becoming a scholar sister. :ma:

Thanks for sharing these very interesting information.
I never know that Jewish calendar has a 13th month too.

:wasalam:
 

JenGiove

Junior Member
:salam2:

You are becoming a scholar sister. :ma:

Thanks for sharing these very interesting information.
I never know that Jewish calendar has a 13th month too.

:wasalam:

:salam2: Brother,

OH...please, do not ascribe to me something I am not. I'm just good at googling....nothing more...I am nooooo scholar!
 

JenGiove

Junior Member
The Native American Calendar

:salam2: Brothers and Sisters,

I am choosing to post this just for your casual interest and nothing more. Since this thread is about calenders, I thought I post it here instead of making a separate thread, since, after all, it has nothing to do with Islam.

I CAN tell you that the Native American's generally believe that there are 28 days in a month, which means that there are 13 months to a year. Interestingly, there is also 13 "moons" on a turtle's back.

http://www.crystalinks.com/calendarnamer.html
Native American Calendars

No North American Indian tribe had a true calendar--a single integrated system of denoting days and longer periods of time. Usually, intervals of time were counted independently of one another.


The day was a basic unit recognized by all tribes, but there is no record of aboriginal names for days. A common device for keeping track of days was a bundle of sticks of known number, from which one was extracted for every day that passed, until the bundle was exhausted. Longer periods of time were usually counted by moons, which began with the New Moon, or conjunction of the Sun and Moon.


Years were divided into four seasons, occasionally five, and when counted were usually designated by one of the seasons; e.g., a North American Indian might say that a certain event had happened 10 winters ago.


Among sedentary agricultural tribes, the cycle of the seasons was of great ritual importance, but the time of the beginning of the year varied. Some observed it about the time of the vernal equinox, others in the fall.


The Hopi tribe of northern Arizona held a new-fire ceremony in November. The Creek ceremony, known as the "Busk," was held late in July or in August, but it is said that each Creek town or settlement set its own date for the celebration.


As years were determined by seasons and not by a fixed number of days, the correlation of moons and years was also approximate and not a function of a daily count. Most tribes reckoned 12 moons to a year. Some northern tribes, notably those of New England, and the Cree tribes, counted 13.


The Indians of the northwest coast divided their years into two parts, counting six moons to each part, and the Kiowa split one of their 12 moons between two unequal seasons, beginning their year with a Full Moon.


The naming of moons is perhaps the first step in transforming them into months. The Zuni Indians of New Mexico named the first six moons of the year, referring to the remainder by colour designations associated with the four cardinal (horizontal) directions, and the zenith and the nadir. Only a few Indian tribes attempted a more precise correlation of moons and years.


The Creeks are said to have added a moon between each pair of years, and the Haida from time to time inserted a "between moon" in the division of their year into two parts. It is said that an unspecified tribe of the Sioux or the Ojibwa (Chippewa) made a practice of adding a "lost moon" when 30 moons had waned.


A tally of years following an important event was sometimes kept on a notched stick. The best known record commemorates the spectacular meteoric shower (the Leonids) of 1833.


Some northern tribes recorded series of events by pictographs, and one such record, said to have been originally painted on a buffalo robe and known as the "Lone-dog Winter Count," covers a period of 71 years beginning with 1800.


Early explorers had little opportunity to learn about the calendrical devices of the Indians, which were probably held sacred and secret. Contact with Europeans and their Christian calendar doubtless altered many aboriginal practices. Thus, present knowledge of the systems used in the past may not reflect their true complexity.
 
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