Salah Question

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

During salah when I was reciting some part of the Quran, I accidentally mispronounced a word in the second ayat, and then I sort of forgot what was ahead, so I started over from the start again and finished it without any mistakes.

Does this little stumbling during recitation necessitate the prostration of forgetfulness? I wasn't sure, so I said the tasleem at the end, and then did two prostrations of forgetfulness after the tasleem.

Please tell me if I did the right thing, or was my prayer valid even without the prostration of forgetfulness?
 

kashif_nazeer

~~~Alhamdulillah~~~
:wasalam:

Sajdah sahw is done when a wajib(obligatory) part of prayer is missed.Although if sajdah sahw is done there is nothing wrong in it like it's noorun ala noor.Anyways this question intrigues me too,since I too have come across such situation a few times.Hope somebody will provide with a better answer inshaAllah.
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
aslam o alaikum wa rahamatuAllahi wa barakatuhu

When I am reciting surahs during prayer sometimes I make a mistake or forget because Im not concentrating, then I say 'AstighfirAllah three times and then start the surah again or start the verse again. Is this correct? Or should I start a new surah?.

Praise be to Allaah.
If a person forgets something in his recitation or makes a mistake in it whilst praying, if it is in al-Faatihah then he has to correct his recitation, because there is no prayer for the one who does not recite it (al-Faatihah). If he forgets something or makes a mistake in it that changes the meaning, his prayer is not valid until he corrects it.

If the mistake is not in al-Faatihah, then his prayer is valid, because recitation after al-Faatihah is Sunnah and is not obligatory.

The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas stated:

If a person forgets the soorah after al-Faatihah, he does not have to do anything further, whether he is leading the prayer, praying behind an imam or praying on his own, and whether the prayer is obligatory or naafil. This is according to the more correct of the two scholarly opinions. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/146

If a person makes a mistake when reciting the soorah or he forgets anything of it, it is not prescribed for him to say istighfaar (ask for forgiveness); rather he should try to correct the mistake and remember what he forgot, but if he cannot do that then he may move on to the verse that comes after it, or he may leave this soorah and start reciting another, or he may bow. If he does any of these things, there is nothing wrong with that.

The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas stated:

If the worshipper becomes confused when reciting a verse and he cannot remember it, there is no reason why he cannot recite the following verse, but it is prescribed for him not to recite in prayer anything but that which he has memorised well, so that he will not get confused a great deal. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/337

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allah have mercy on him) was asked:

If the imam recites in prayer what he can of the Qur’aan, then he forgets the end of the verse, and none of the worshippers behind him knows it, so they cannot prompt him, should he say takbeer and bow, or should he recite another soorah?

He replied:

He has the choice: if he wishes he may end the recitation and say takbeer or if he wishes he may recite a verse or verses from another soorah, so long as that is not in al-Faatihah. In the case of al-Faatihah, it is essential to recite it in full, because reciting it is one of the pillars or essential parts of the prayer. End quote.

Majmoo‘ Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 12/129

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) was asked:

If I am praying on my own and I make a mistake in the recitation of the verse, and I am not able to complete it and I am confusing it with another verse, what should I do when I am praying?

He replied: You can do one of two things: you can either move on to the verse that follows it, or you can bow, because the matter in this case is broad in scope. End quote.

Fataawa Noor ‘ala al-Darb by Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 24/141

And Allah knows best.


Islam Q&A
source : http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/158204/mistake in prayer

walaikum salam wr wb
 

JenGiove

Junior Member
:salam2:

Sister, I don't know if this will help or if it applies but maybe it can be a starting point for you to search for your answer...inshallah. Its an incredible question!

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/5410/mispronouncing

A new Muslim finding it difficult to recite al-Faatihah

I am a native English speaker trying to learn Arabic, In Sha' Allah. When I Alhamdu lillah embraced Islam, I memorized Surah Al-Fatihah from a transliteration of the Arabic. This fall I began to study more about salah (prayer) and in a book of fiqh I read that if a person omits or mispronounces 1 letter or vowel of Al-Fatihah in salah, his recitation is invalid. When I read this I became so worried, because although I am studying Arabic, there are some Arabic letters I still cannot pronounce at all, and some I cannot pronounce well. I started to listen to a taped recitation of Al-Fatihah and I love to hear it recited, but I feel discouraged because my recitation is so poor compared to the Qari's. Since I read that ruling, I have become so nervous in my recitation of Al-Fatihah in salah that instead of focusing on the meaning, I think about how poor my pronunciation is. When I hear myself mispronouncing letters, I go back over the ayat, trying to correctly pronounce them again. But what happens is that I either make the same mistakes again or make new ones! Often I end up reciting Al-Fatihah more than once or a certain ayah more than once because I feel so worried that my prayers are not being accepted because I can't pronounce some of the letters. I have become so nervous that sometimes I even mispronounce letters I usually can pronounce during my recitation. What should I do? May Allah reward you for any help you can give me.

Praise be to Allaah.

1 – Reciting Soorat al-Faatihah is a pillar or essential part of prayer – according to the correct scholarly view – and it is obligatory upon the imam who leads the prayer, the one who prays behind an imam and the one who prays on his own.


It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever offers a prayer in which he does not recite Umm al-Kitaab (i.e., al-Faatihah), it is defective” – and he said it three times. It was said to Abu Hurayrah, (What if) we are behind the imam? He said, Recite it to yourself, for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, “Allah said: I have divided prayer between Myself and My slave into two halves, and My slave shall have what he has asked for. When the slave says: Al-hamdu lillahi rabbi l-alamin (All the praises and thanks be to Allaah, the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists), Allah says: My slave has praised Me.


And when he says: Ar-Rahmaan ir-Raheem (The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful), Allah (mighty and sublime be He) says: My slave has extolled Me


and when he says: Maaliki yawm id-deen (The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)), Allah says: My slave has glorified Me - and on one occasion He said: My slave has submitted to My power.


And when he says: Iyyaaka na’budu wa iyyaaka nasta’een (You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything)), He says: This is between Me and My slave, and My slave shall have what he is asking for.


And when he says: Ihdina’s-siraata’l- mustaqeem, siraat alladheena an’amta alayhim ghayril-maghdoobi alayhim wa la’ d-daalleen (Guide us to the Straight Way. The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger, nor of those who went astray), He says: This is for My slave, and My slave shall have what he has asked for.”


(Narrated by Muslim)


So the worshipper must recite it properly in Arabic, because we are commanded to read and recite the Qur’aan as it was revealed.


2 – Whoever is unable to pronounce it properly because of some defect in his tongue or because he is not an Arabic-speaker must learn to correct his pronunciation as much as he can.


If he cannot, then he is relieved of this obligation, because Allaah does not burden people with more than they are able to bear.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):


“Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope”


[al-Baqarah 2:286]


3 – If a person is unable to recite al-Faatihah at all or is unable to learn it, or he has just become Muslim and the time for prayer has come and there is not enough time for him to learn it, then he is given a way out in the following hadeeth:​


It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Abi Awfa said: A man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, teach me something of the Qur’aan that will suffice me, for I cannot read.” He said, “Say: Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah (Glory be to Allaah, praise be to Allaah, there is no god except Allaah and Allaah is Most great, there is no god except Allaah and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah).” The man made a grabbing gesture with his hand (indicating that he had learned a lot) and said, “This is for my Lord, what is there for me?” He said, “Say: Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni wahdini warzuqni wa ‘aafini (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, guide me, and grant me provision and good health).” He made another grabbing gesture with his other hand and stood up.


(Narrated by al-Nasaa’i, 924; Abu Dawood, 832. Its isnaad was classed as jayyid by al-Mundhiri in al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 2/430. al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar indicated that it is hasan in al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 1/236)


Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:


If a person does not know any Qur’aan, and he cannot learn it before the time for prayer is over, then he must say Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah (Glory be to Allaah, praise be to Allaah, there is no god except Allaah, Allaah is Most great and there is no power and no strength except with Allaah), because Abu Dawood narrated that a man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I am not able to learn anything of the Qur’aan, so teach me something that will suffice me.” He said, “Say, Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa hawla wa la quwwata illa Billaah.” The man said, “This is for my Lord, what is there for me?” He said, “Say: Allaahumma ighfir li warhamni warzuqni wahdini wa ‘aafini (O Allaah, forgive me, have mercy on me, grant me provision, guide me, and give me good health).” But he does not have to do more than say the first five phrases, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) only said that, and he only told him more when he asked for more.


(end of Ibn Qudaamah’s words)


But if a person is able to recite part of al-Faatihah only, he should recite that which he is able to recite. And he has to repeat what he can recite well (i.e., so that the total number of what he recites will be seven verses, equivalent to the number of verses in al-Faatihah).


Ibn Qudaamah said:


It may be sufficient for him to say alhamdu-Lillaah (praise be to Allaah), laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (there is no god but Allaah) and Allaahu akbar (Allaah is most great), because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whatever you know of Qur’aan, recite it, otherwise praise Allaah, proclaim His Oneness and magnify Him.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood)


(al-Mughni, 1/289, 290)


What you have read about the prayer being invalid if the worshipper mispronounces a single letter of al-Faatihah cannot be taken as general in meaning. Not every mistake in al-Faatihah invalidates the prayer; rather it cannot be invalidated unless something is omitted from al-Faatihah, or the pronunciation is changed in a way that distorts the meaning. Moreover, this ruling on the prayer becoming invalid applies to those who are able to recite al-Faatihah correctly or who are able to learn it but do not.​

As for those who are unable to do so, they should recite it as best as they can, and that does not affect them, because Allaah does not burden a soul beyond its scope. One of the basic principles established by the scholars is that nothing is obligatory when a person is unable to do it. See al-Mughni, 2/154.


In this case a person should recite al-Faatihah as best as he is able, and then glorify Allaah, praise Him, magnify Him and proclaim His Oneness (by saying Subhaan-Allaah wa’l-hamdu Lillaah wa Allaahu akbar wa laa ilaaha ill-Allaah), so that this will make up for whatever he has missed out of al-Faatihah.


See al-Majmoo’, 3/375.


Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:


Is the prayer of one who mispronounces al-Faatihah valid or not?
He replied:


If a person mispronounces al-Faatihah in a way that does not distort the meaning, his prayer is valid, whether he is leading others in prayer or is praying alone.


But with regard to the kind of mispronunciation that distorts the meaning, if the person knows the meaning, such as if he says ‘Siraat allaadheena an’amtu ‘alayhim [meaning “The way of those on whom I have bestowed my grace”, instead of the correct version an’amta (The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace)], and he knows that this verbal form is wrong, then the prayer is not valid. But if he does not know that he is distorting the meaning, and he thinks that this form is second person singular rather than first person, then there is a difference of scholarly opinion on this point. And Allaah knows best.


Majmoo’ al-Fataawam 22/443


He was also asked about when a person ends a word with –i that should end in –a when praying (or renders it genitive when it should be accusative).


He replied:


If he is aware of what he is doing and he does it deliberately, then his prayer is invalid, because he is playing about in his prayer. But if he is unaware of that, then his prayer is not invalid, according to one of the two scholarly views.​


Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 22/444


So you must try hard and keep practising it. You can do this by reciting it to another Muslim sister who can recite it well, and by listening to soorahs recited by skilled reciters on tapes or broadcasts.


There is no need to feel nervous and anxious, because Allaah knows what is in people’s hearts, and He knows who is trying hard and making the effort, and who is lazy and heedless.


The difficulty that you find in reciting Qur’aan will increase your hasanaat (good deeds) and rewards. It was narrated that ‘Aaishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who is skilled in reciting Qur’aan will be with the noble and obedient scribes (i.e., the angels?) and the one who reads the Qur’aan and struggles with it because it is difficult for him will have two rewards.”


(Narrated by Muslim, 798)


Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:


The one who struggles with it is the one who is hesitant in his recitation because he is not able to memorize it well. He will have two rewards: the reward for reciting it and the reward for his efforts in reciting it.


There is no need to repeat verses more than once, because this is not what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did or taught. Rather that opens the door to waswaas (whispers from the Shaytaan), detracts from the prayer, makes you lose your focus, distracts you from pondering the meaning of the verses and makes the Shaytaan happy, because from that he can find a way to make you suffer so that you will ultimately give up praying. But Allaah is Most Gracious and Most Merciful, and He is more merciful towards us than we are to ourselves, and He does not burden us with more than we can bear .



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Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

JazakAllahu Khayr, akhi, for the above fatwa. Alhamdulillah, this has really helped - I've been having so much waswas that my prayer wasn't valid, etc etc. So there wasn't any need for me to do the sujood e sahw.

If I did do the prostration after the tasleem, that didn't invalidate anything, did it?

EDIT: JazakAllahu khayr, Jen, for the fatwa. Sounds like the nervousness I was going through.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Sister,

I got this link from TTI. Do not ask when or who posted it. It is exhaustive and should answer your question. It takes a moment to download..it is sensitive.
I believe you should get your answer around Chapter 10 to save you some reading.:http://www.mohdy.name/pdfs/e110.pdf
 

Ershad

Junior Member
If I did do the prostration after the tasleem, that didn't invalidate anything, did it?

:wasalam:

Dear sister,

I don't think it would invalidate anything. You did it because of doubt. That is exactly what I would have done too if I was in doubt of any kind. So, Allah knows your intention and I hope your prayer was accepted.

EDIT: I found this interesting chart on Sujuud As-Sahw: http://understand-islam.net/site/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=164. I hope it will be useful to you.

Jazakallahu Khair!
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
:salam2:

JazakAllahu Khayr, akhi, for the above fatwa. Alhamdulillah, this has really helped - I've been having so much waswas that my prayer wasn't valid, etc etc. So there wasn't any need for me to do the sujood e sahw.

If I did do the prostration after the tasleem, that didn't invalidate anything, did it?

EDIT: JazakAllahu khayr, Jen, for the fatwa. Sounds like the nervousness I was going through.

:salam2: wr wb

Sister, 1st we must identify our biggest enemy shaitaan cuz he will try his best to take our khushoo away from salah, so the best way to prevent urself is by being more informative of his traps.

in simple words Sheikh ibn Baaz (rahmatullah) answered it precisely (taken from the same fatwa posted above)

He has the choice: if he wishes he may end the recitation and say takbeer or if he wishes he may recite a verse or verses from another soorah, so long as that is not in al-Faatihah. In the case of al-Faatihah, it is essential to recite it in full, because reciting it is one of the pillars or essential parts of the prayer. End quote

inshAllah hope it clarifies

:wasalam:
 
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