Why do some parents send their kids to Cathloic schools?

alf2

Islam is a way of life
I have a question, why do some parents send their Muslim kids to Cathloic schools?

I wouldnt for 2 reason:

1) The kids at Cahloic schools are not more pious than those of a public school. They just cover the immoralities up better!

2) You run the risk of them brainwashing your kids.

I can understand if there is NO other school near you and you want your child to get some kind of education. But parents do this even in Amierca :girl3:
 

Wannabemuslim

Junior Member
:salam2: My non-muslim mom sent me to one for 3 third grade, and my dad allowed it. It didnt really effect me, infact i looked at the whole drinking wine thing on friday or communion as a joke. The kids where a little bit nicer than in public schools though, but it cost to much money and i was miserable while in class so my mom put me back in public school.
 

msmoorad

mommys boy
salaams to all

i think its because they have an inferiority complex about islam & very weak imaan- not to mention lack of knowledge about the basics of islam.

i know of one muslim guy from the US who is active with the Tablighi Jamaat.
he told me he only came to know muslims had to pray 5 times daily when he was in the US army.
his parents are both Pakistani muslims but both put their professions before deen & this attitude reflects in their son but he has now changed his life-Alhamdulillah.
looking at him youd never guess his background.

he is one of the very fortunate ones as most children born to parents like these end up as atheists or only muslim by name.

when muslim parents have no option but a catholic school due to there being no other school around but they ensure that they teach their children the basics of deen at home & are practical muslims themselves, thats a different story.

even here in South Africa, theres many wealthy muslims with no deen- they see this type of schools as a good environment for their children- you can see the results.
their children find it difficult to even make salaam but instead say "hello" etc.

they also tend to have girl/boyfriends that are kaafirs.
i know that this sort of relationships are haraam even if the other is also muslim but then some of these muslim children say they want to marry this other person etc

i know of cases like that as well in Durban
my cousin is the imam of a musjid in a middle class area & a muslim guy there who is a sort of famous sports journalist sent his daughter to a non muslim private school- she wanted to marry her kaafir boyfriend.
then only did he come crying to my cousin & ask him for advice & tell him to make duaah for his daughter etc

like one scholar who replied to a muslim man who wanted to send his daughter to university & was asked to make duah that the daughter is kept safe from the many fitnas there:
"Oh, so you want to send your daughter into the rain & i must make duah that she does not get wet?"

and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

I can not understand how anyone would leave a child in the hands of a priest these days.

It's a leftover from the colonial days. The Jeusits were known to be scholars. The Protestants here in the US have fine private schools. The next layer down were the Catholic schools.

We need to support our Muslim schools. We need to pay the teachers more and treat them like professionals. Muslim immigrant parents here seem to think the great equalizer is college.

And they send their daughters to co-ed colleges. They do not know of the fine all girl institutions.
 

hayat84

I'm not what you believe
:salam2:
maybe they fear the judge of the people,so they don't think with their own head but with the others' one.this is the influence of the social mind,in which many people are "trained" to dislike Islam,and by consequence,the muslim families who don't have the strenght to react,just do what the society does.I've known some muslim mothers who send their children to the normal school(not only catholic,but also the public one)because there is no alternative in a State in which a muslim school is not planned.I'll not send my children to any italian school,because it has nothing to do with the education I'm giving them.They'll study in Morocco,and they'll be more pious than here in sh Allah.many people asked me to send my first daughters in the school of childhood,but I refused with no repentation,because it's me and my husband who decide what to do with our chidren.Then,sister Alf2,if somebody wants to send his children in a catholic school,he's probably doing it because he can't refuse.
 

K-A-K

Junior Member
well i don`t know .. it really depends on the school authorities. I have studied in a catholic school back home because they are much better off than public ones. when we prayed in the morning, we prayed to God Alone. we didnt mention the name Jesus or anything. we had our islam class. and christians had their separate class. if they had their other pratises.. we didnt have to go there. though people out of curiosity sometimes visited. muslims actually were protected. and the school was run by nuns. it was all girls. and i must say that the manners that i learnt in that school are still with me. AlhamduLillah. we were never opposed .. rather we had our own ceremonies. it was cool. again i must say that we were raised as good girls. no mobiles allowed. no stupid discussions. nothings. loved it... and i miss the school. it was a well managed, free choice school.
 

sachin4islam

Junior Member
Assalamu Alaikum:

Here in India we call such schools as mission schools. Mission schools offer quality education and are cheaper. These two qualities of Mission schools doesn't reflect their real objectives. Their main motto is to brainwash kids right at the age when they are not mature and are vulnerable to pick up Catholic ideology may be in piecemeal.

When money+education matters even simple thinking vanishes from mind and no one heeds at the consequences for its manifestations are not instantaneous.

Regards.
 

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
:salam2:

I didn't go to a Catholic school, but I did go to a Christian school, which is practically the same thing.

The reason my parents sent me and my sister to Christian school is because of the sorry state of public schools. They wanted us to get a better education than the average kid, so it was either private school or homeschool.

I just wish that I had been taught more about other religions instead of just being forced to take Bible classes every year. I was not ready for the real world when I graduated and went to college at a secular state university.
 

K-A-K

Junior Member
i never got to study bible! i didnt even get to have a look at it. but we did hear it at times. whenever we had the major assemblies etc. but we first recited The Quran and then a part from bible. which usually used to refer to the blessings etc... AlhamduLillah, my school was a big patron of religious rights. we never used to differ over anything. i never had the feeling that it was a catholic school somehow. :D

and personally i dont think its wrong to study in such a school as long as the teachings do not divert the kids. because the discipline and education such schools offer are way better.
 

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
i never got to study bible! i didnt even get to have a look at it. but we did hear it at times. whenever we had the major assemblies etc. but we first recited The Quran and then a part from bible. which usually used to refer to the blessings etc... AlhamduLillah, my school was a big patron of religious rights. we never used to differ over anything. i never had the feeling that it was a catholic school somehow. :D

and personally i dont think its wrong to study in such a school as long as the teachings do not divert the kids. because the discipline and education such schools offer are way better.

:salam2:

I still have a copy of the Bible, and I still read it from time to time in addition to the Qur'an.

The education was good, but I did not like the repressive environment of the school I went to. We were not encouraged to think or to question. We were simply told that Christianity is good and everything else is bad.

I wish I had learned more about Islam when I was younger instead of listening to the common media misconceptions and what my teachers told me.
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

I went to a Convent school from 2nd grade to the 10th grade in India. My own experience was pretty good - quality education, good discipline, manners and morals taught to us from a young age. Yes, it was a school run by nuns, but the Christian philosophy was never really taught to us. I never heard about the trinity in all my years there. We were taught the basic belief in One God, who created everything. And we were taught about all the main Prophets and the major world religions without any emphasis on Jesus (alayhis salaam). I suppose the nuns knew that they were teaching in a place where there were very few Christians. We had a compulsary subject called "Moral Science" which was heavily based on learning values like respect, honesty, politeness, kindness, etc. It really helped me gain a strong sense of right and wrong. And it only reinforced whatever I learned Islamically at home or in books.
 

Wannabemuslim

Junior Member
:salam2: on a slightly off topic note , i now go to a judeo-atheistic school, with every pagan holiday celebration you can think of. There was one nice Christian teacher that was okay with islam and didnt teach it in an odd way in fact i think he respected me for praying. latter of course he go fired because he said something about god or jesus because there was a jewish kid in the class (as per my understanding of the event from class mates)

The way my Atheist teacher taught islam, was very very strange, she subtly made it sound as if Muhammad (pbuh) was insane because he wasnt eating or drinking enough, and then in the same day we talked about arab culture and how she was offered to be sold for a camel eygypt, witch had nothing to do with anything. Infact we didnt learn anything good about islam except that Muhammad (pbuh) liked cats, and that was based off a weak hadith. Yet she spent months explaining how great greek paganism is and another 6 months on how strong and brave the romans where. Infact half of history class was some Shakespeare story time, and i dont think 3 4ths of what we where told was true.

So to be honest i like Christian teachers better than Weird pagan ones, and in between the two it dosnt get much better or worse as far as i know (in the west that is)
 

ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger
I have a question, why do some parents send their Muslim kids to Cathloic schools?

I wouldnt for 2 reason:

1) The kids at Cahloic schools are not more pious than those of a public school. They just cover the immoralities up better!

2) You run the risk of them brainwashing your kids.

I can understand if there is NO other school near you and you want your child to get some kind of education. But parents do this even in Amierca :girl3:

Sometimes, it's just the notion that they're providing their children the best education money can buy. More of a psycho-social reason.

Take me for example. My parents were immigrants from Pakistan and they migrated here after getting married. My father prided himself on building his life in America from scratch, without the assistance of anyone else. He wanted to be able to give his family the best of everything, taking advantage of the opportunities living in America provides over those who are coming from third world countries. He wanted his children to have the life that he didn't.

Firstly, many of the Muslims you see doing this feel similar. They feel that migrating to the West gives them the chance to provide their families with the very opportunities they didn't have growing up. Sometimes, they tend to overcompensate. In my family's case (and the case of many as well), it meant standing out from the rest. Usually this means standing out from the rest of the individual's cohorts. In my father's case, it meant standing out from other immigrants. He wanted to show his peers that his hard work in America was paying off to the point where he was sending his children to exclusive private schools. It didn't matter that they were Catholic. They even tried to get me into a Yeshiva at one point. As long as they were private, they stood out from the rest and to them, that's what mattered. I should point out that they didn't really know much about Islamic rulings in this matter and weren't as practicing as they are now.

Secondly, there's this stigma amongst many that private school education is alot better than public school education. Even growing up and while in private school, the stereotype amongst my classmates was that public school was a horrible place to be, almost as if talking about entering a jungle somehow. A fabrication as we later discovered. However, that was after gaining experience. People (especially immigrants who are new to the country) tend to believe that because they're paying tuition, they're paying for their children to have opportunities that other kids don't get. In their minds, if the education is expensive, the school must be better than the rest somehow. It was after many years, that my parents realized they were getting the raw end of the deal by not having their kids go to public school and they then rectified that mistake.

Thirdly, as Brother Sachin stated, these schools are in great abundance in the Subcontinent. Many Christian missionaries would migrate there and open up private schools. Western methods of education were taught and as the whole "West is superior" ideology was running prevalent over there at the time, people felt that if they wanted their kids to stand out above the rest they would have to include their children in these institutions, irrespective of religion.

Bottom line: It's not about religion at all. It's about the fact that it's exclusive. It's usually about proving oneself to the rest of society as being successfully assimilated in America and as a result, succeeding in life. This usually pertains to those that do not consider Islam a priority or sometimes, simply don't know enough about it to make it one.

However, you are correct regarding the brainwashing thing. I would usually get my Bible and Quran mixed up in terms of parables at times. But, alhamdulillah for my mother, she would go over my religion lessons with me every day and point out what was wrong and what was correct. She would even tell me how much of the Lord's Prayer I could recite, initially telling me to omit the line about Mary being the mother of God while I was a child to later teaching me to progress to reciting adhkar while everyone else recited the Hail Mary when I got older. She would answer all my questions and have an alim come over and teach us Quran right after we'd come home from Catholic school. It wasn't easy for her and it definitely can lead to brainwashing. But alhamdulillah, I look at it as a learning experience and I can easily refute someone who thinks they have something over me when it comes to preaching Catholicism.

Not many people can keep their jaws up after learning that a conservative hijabi went to Catholic school with nuns and observed Communion in Church.
 
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