A good human being without the rules or with?

[Needanswers]

Selam kardeşler,

First I would like to introduce my self a little bit. I am a Turkish-Muslim(Grown up by Alevi principles) and I live in the Netherlands.

Sometimes I actually fear to go to hell. Why? For example: I don't pray that much and I live in a 'Western' style.

But are things like praying that important? I once spoke to a Imam in Turkey and he said that the most important thing is being a good human being, that you can for example: be friends with Christians just accept them the way they are, don't lie, help your friends etc.

I actually am a good human being at least I believe and he said that something like that is enough and that the rules of the Sharia are just guidelines but that you don't need to follow them necessarily.

But someone else told me that things like that 'is just wrong talk' and that praying actually is a duty while another person tells me that you don't need to show your love to Allah by praying because he already knows that you love him and that you are a good human.

So I am a little bit confused, do I actually get punished for not praying but being a good human being on the same time?

Thank you for reading and helping.

 

[Seeking Allah's Mercy]

Asalamo 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa barakatuh,

Brother, those who tell you that Qur'an, Sharia, Salah etc. are not to be followed, why did Allaah reveal them? Why not just send a couple moral reminders with Prophet. Why did the propet and his companions (May Allaah be pleased with him) struggle so much to follow all that if it had no value.

Why not just follow the Bible, since that's what the christian do, Say you love Jesus, put the bible behind your back and all is well.

Brother Allaah says in the Qur'an Allaah did not create the Jinn and Ins except that they should worship Him. What's the purpose of this verse if we are not to be questioned about worship?

 

[Needanswers]

I don't know that's the reason why I am asking.

Some say times are changing that the prophet his time cannot be compared with out time, that your religion should be for your self now and you must not force others into it etc etc etc.

It makes sense for me but does it make sense?

I mean I accept everyone as he/she is because they are the way they are, but will I actually will get punished for this?

Since my conversation with this Imam I actually for confused, he said if we listen to the Quran: yes I actually am a bad Muslim, but I am a good human being and that is the reason why I believe that being a good human being is more important than being a good Muslim.
The world is getting so small for just one population, 1 ideology, we should keep it personal and do what you think it is right.

So when I asked about praying he said that someone should never get punished for not praying because knowing and believing would be enough to show your love.

That's why I got real confused...

 

[Hatty]

Salaam brother. I hope you are doing well and inshallah that Allah will guide us to the straight path.

I first would like to pose this question: who has the right to decide or determine what is wrong and what right?

Secondly, what is love and how is it manifested? If you love a girl in your heart, then you do not show your love physically or manifest your love to her by caring for her and show that she is important to you. Would she be fine with that? is it enough to tell her I love you in my heart but at the same time, you see other women and ignore her and ignore her family? Of course she will most likely going to leave you.

So there are two actions in Islam. The actions of the heart - which only Allah knows about them. And the actions of the limbs. We love Allah in our heart (action of the heart). And Allah instructed us how to show and manifest the action of the limbs to show that we love Him and respect Him.


I hope the above helps inshallah....And Allah know best...

 

[Itqan Ullah]

Waliekumassalam warahamatuallahi wabarakatu,

Is Praying/Salah that important?
Lets see what importance it had in the life of prophet (pbuh) & sahaba:

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I don't know that's the reason why I am asking.
Some say times are changing that the prophet his time cannot be compared with out time, that your religion should be for your self now and you must not force others into it etc etc etc.

What I say or someone else says does not matter, What Allah revealed and Prophet said is only thing that carries weight. The prophets before prophet (pbuh) were sent for their own civilization/nation and for a limited period of time (till next revelation was revealed) but prophet (pbuh) IS THE LAST MESSENGER and he is sent for whole of humanity till the end of the universe.

Since my conversation with this Imam I actually for confused, he said if we listen to the Quran: yes I actually am a bad Muslim, but I am a good human being and that is the reason why I believe that being a good human being is more important than being a good Muslim.
The world is getting so small for just one population, 1 ideology, we should keep it personal and do what you think it is right.

Brother I think the 'Imam' did not give you the correct information, IDK why he told you one shall never get punished for not praying? Implying praying is not obligatory while this is not the case. One can never be a good muslim without being a good human first, from your posts it somewhat seems to me that you are not able to properly understand what "Islam" is. Islam is not just about few practices like praying, fasting, charity, supplicating, etc. no doubt these are an integral part of Islam but this is not whole Islam, Islam is a complete way of life that covers each and every walk of life including social, economical, political system! It is indeed the best way of life.

I don't remember correctly but I think this was the lecture which might give you a better idea (can anybody else plz verify I have linked the correct lecture coz my net is slow I cant watch again?):

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I mean I accept everyone as he/she is because they are the way they are, but will I actually will get punished for this?

"You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah....." [Quran 3:110]

You inshallah will not be punished for sins of others but it is necessary for you to learn and propagate Islam to the maximum extent possible for you, becoz this is the duty given to you by allah (swt) as,

"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Quran 16:125]

And this is actually very logical becoz lets say there was a king and lets he knows one man is going to murder another man becoz he does not know murdering is a crime. King sends a messenger to the man and gives him responsibility to deliver this message to man that murdering is a crime and he is going to be punished severely if he does that, Now, Tell me If that messenger out of irresponsibility did not convey the message to that man and and that man murders someone are both messenger and man not equally responsible for crime? or is it that only the man is responsible?

We don't IMPOSE our beliefs on anyone as allah says in glorious Quran:

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." [Quran 2:256]

We learn Islam and then convey the message (for how to convey the message this is a bit different topic) and if they still remain on their ignorance and take path of arrogance, then no blame on you since your duty is to warn not to impose.

Allah knows the best.

P.S I request my brothers an sisters to plz correct me if I have committed any mistake in the post coz that is likely to happen.

 

[Aisya al-Humaira]

Assalamua'laykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

Brother, the above is the proper and best greeting that a Muslim can give to another Muslim. In that greeting contains dua'a [prayer] that we wish the one that we greet will be shower with Mercy and Blessings from Allaah The Al-Mighty. So InshaAllaah let’s start making it a habit to greet Muslims with the proper greeting.

One thing you should try to understand. .

You having doubts about yourself. You meeting the Imaam. You then again question about yourself. You reflect about how you were brought up in a Western life but being a so-so Muslim. Everything, everything happens for a reason brother. Just like Allaah subhanahu wa Ta'ala did not create the Earth and human beings for no reason.

We did not create the heavens and earth and what is between them except in truth and [for] a specified term. But those who disbelieve, from that of which they are warned, are turning away. [46:3]

And Allah create the heavens and earth in truth and so that every soul may be recompensed for what it has earned, and they will not be wronged. [45:22]

And We did not create the heavens and earth and that between them in play. [44:3]

And We did not create the heaven and the earth and that between them aimlessly. That is the assumption of those who disbelieve, so woe to those who disbelieve from the Fire. [38:27]

And We have not created the heavens and earth and that between them except in truth. And indeed, the Hour is coming; so forgive with gracious forgiveness. [15:85]


Those thoughts that Allaah sent to you are a sign that he wants you to think and repent yourself to Him. You know that you are not adhering to the true message that our beloved Prophet SAW had left for the good of humankind. The message to uphold tawheed [The Oneness of Allaah SWT] and to implement the shariaah [Laws brought down from Allaah] into your life. Allaah sent you those signs so that you do not just acknowledge yourself as a Muslim but to *embrace Islaam fully*into your life from the very second you wake up into this world again every morning [which is with the grace of Allaah] until the moment you go to bed again at night.

Too many of your words consists of: “This Imaam says”, “Some says”, “He says”. Well, please bear in mind that, whatever that human beings [makhlooq] say that do not contain good words do not count much. Worthless sometimes. What people say does not matter. People have flaws, people err. What they say may be true or might even be far from the truth unless. . .unless they talk with references from the Quran and the Sunnaah. Then it is only truth that they talk about.

One critical question that I’d like to ask and would request you to ponder about it. Have you, have you ever felt this bliss, eternal peace deep within your heart? A bliss feeling as if everything that happens around you is a good thing in spite of the calamities that you are facing. Have you ever felt that way?

Well, good news for you, such feeling, an inner, personal peace can only be felt via true faith. True faith inside your heart where you acknowledge the existence of Allaah, you follow His Commands and left that what He SWT dislike. You see everything that happen in the world through your heart fill with faith to Him. You only hold on to Allaah in everything that you do. In short, you live your life with the flow of faith. Then only. . inshaAllaah, that one bliss feeling that is nothing comparable to the temporary happiness in this world is. . yours.

Those who have believed and whose hearts are assured by the remembrance of Allah . Unquestionably, by the remembrance of Allah hearts are assured." [13:28]


I think that should be enough for now. For you to think deeply, ponder and reflect on what has been said. Remember that Allaah, Our Creator has made us perfect, gave us food, made us able to breathe oxygen smoothly. Those are the many uncountable things that Allaah has blessed upon us. So as a respond to His Call and Blessings, we make prayers, we perform solaat as a rememberance and to show our thankfulness to Him. Not just by being a good person, not just by believing in your heart. You prove your faith through actions.

And to answer the question to your thread: A good human being is one who adhere and hold on strongly to the rules made by Allaah subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

InshaAllaah if there’s more I’d like to add or any other members would like to help, we’ll come back soon.

Was-salaam

 

[strive-may-i]

Purpose of life...

Selam kardeşler,

First I would like to introduce my self a little bit. I am a Turkish-Muslim(Grown up by Alevi principles) and I live in the Netherlands.

Sometimes I actually fear to go to hell. Why? For example: I don't pray that much and I live in a 'Western' style.

But are things like praying that important? I once spoke to a Imam in Turkey and he said that the most important thing is being a good human being, that you can for example: be friends with Christians just accept them the way they are, don't lie, help your friends etc.

I actually am a good human being at least I believe and he said that something like that is enough and that the rules of the Sharia are just guidelines but that you don't need to follow them necessarily.

But someone else told me that things like that 'is just wrong talk' and that praying actually is a duty while another person tells me that you don't need to show your love to Allah by praying because he already knows that you love him and that you are a good human.

So I am a little bit confused, do I actually get punished for not praying but being a good human being on the same time?

Thank you for reading and helping.

The first question you need to ask is what it means to be a good human being. A good human being in fallen standards or a good human being in the exalted standards Almighty has set for his creations - 'Humans and Jinn'?

Once you are seen as a good human being by Almighty, then you are naturally a Good Muslim, and best part is, fellow humans will 'perceive' you as best among them. The Pious folks are best liked, most preferred.

Turn to your own inner self, examine yourself in the light of Almighty's words. Allah for sure is Rahmaan (beneficient in here) and Raheem(merciful in hereafter). For a starter, try to understand what Almighty expects from us in Surah Fathiha...

The difference is how Almighty would judge each of our action. And that is exactly why a part of us deep in us fears for our actions...

I feel, like most of us here, like most before us and like most after us, its now your time to , sit up take stock and examine your purpose in life.

May us all Succeed in this journey, Ameen!