Was the Great Flood a local or a global flood ?

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Islam!!yay

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I heard that Islam has a different opinion when it comes to the Great Flood.

So was it a Global or a localized flood meant only for Prophet Noah's PBUH's people ?

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But I heard Islam believed it wasnt a global flood just local. Because if it was global then how did all the animals in the world come to Prophet Noah PBUH ? And how to explain all the other civilizations that existed during the Flood ?
 
sachin4islam

sachin4islam

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Assalamu Alaikum:

The flood was global,even Hindu scriptures mention of this flood. Even from Quran it is explicit that it was a global flooding.

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but then how do you explain the civilizations that were not effected by the flood ? and where in the Quran does it State that it was Global ?

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Tabassum07

Tabassum07

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This is a question I've always wanted to research more on, but it always slips my mind. Does anyone have any science related articles that might mention this flood from different viewpoints? Does it have anything to do with the Pangea breaking up? (All the continents and landmass was once one big chunk of land called Pangea, and then slowly the continents broke up and started drifting away. I remember back in middle school being horrified looking at a map of the world and seeing how all the continents and islands can fit into one another, like puzzle pieces. For example, the Himalayan mountain range formed because the part that was originally India lay down there near Antarctica. But it broke up from there and started drifting towards mainland China. When it crashed into the main chunk of land which such force, the Himalayas were formed from the resulting crash - and the land is still drifting upwards, which is why the height of the mountain range keeps increasing a little every year.) The Quran mentions that water fell from the sky and also from the ground. If the land opened up and the oceans washed in, it would make sense that water would gush from the land.

And what was the Great Flood of Arabia, in Pre-Islamic times which affected the Kaaba? JazakAllahu Khayr to anyone who might know an answer.
 
Tomtom

Tomtom

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As'alaamu Alaikkum

You asked :

But I heard Islam believed it wasnt a global flood just local. Because if it was global then how did all the animals in the world come to Prophet Noah PBUH ? And how to explain all the other civilizations that existed during the Flood ?

According to the Holy Bible the flood destroyed every human being on earth except eight people of the family of Noah (pbuh). Like Adam and Eve humanity started again from these eight people as Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala destroyed everybody else due to their wickedness. Your question of asking how the animals came to Noah is limited as we cannot comprehend the magnitude of the flood and the size of the Ark.

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So We inspired him (saying): "Construct the ship under Our Eyes and under Our Revelation (guidance). Then, when Our Command comes, and the oven gushes forth water, take on board of each kind two (male and female), and your family, except those thereof against whom the Word has already gone forth. And address Me not in favour of those who have done wrong. Verily, they are to be drowned. 23:27

Noah (pbuh) was only the ninth generation from Adam (pbuh) so there weren't many communities established on the earth. These groups of people were concentrated in and around the Arabian peninsula. So I would say that the flood was global yet local as the people were not spread throughout the earth yet. Although they were small communities they abandoned the worship of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and started to worship idols and offered human scarifices to their gods.
 
Tomtom

Tomtom

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Tabassum07 said:
:salam2:

This is a question I've always wanted to research more on, but it always slips my mind. Does anyone have any science related articles that might mention this flood from different viewpoints? Does it have anything to do with the Pangea breaking up? (All the continents and landmass was once one big chunk of land called Pangea, and then slowly the continents broke up and started drifting away. I remember back in middle school being horrified looking at a map of the world and seeing how all the continents and islands can fit into one another, like puzzle pieces. For example, the Himalayan mountain range formed because the part that was originally India lay down there near Antarctica. But it broke up from there and started drifting towards mainland China. When it crashed into the main chunk of land which such force, the Himalayas were formed from the resulting crash - and the land is still drifting upwards, which is why the height of the mountain range keeps increasing a little every year.) The Quran mentions that water fell from the sky and also from the ground. If the land opened up and the oceans washed in, it would make sense that water would gush from the land.

And what was the Great Flood of Arabia, in Pre-Islamic times which affected the Kaaba? JazakAllahu Khayr to anyone who might know an answer.
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As'alaamu Alaikkum

Sometimes science and the word of God do not mix. Science is not an exact 'science' as the fundamentals of science are just theories, however, if you believe in Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and yo believe in His words then you must accept what He is saying rather than some atheist scientist who just put forward theories. I agree that when you look at the map of the world that all of the land mass fit snuggly together if one was to put them together. But how we do we know that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala didn't make it as it is? As for the mountains He says that He put them there to keep the land masses in place.

I believe Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala rather than a scientist who cannot prove one jot of what he says.
 
islamerica

islamerica

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I've read conflicting information on this. Some say it was a global flood while others say it is was a local flood. Science community also leans toward a local flood. It really doesn't matter if it's a local or global flood. What we have to remember is what was the population of the humans and how far spread out were they around that time. Scientists believe this flood occurred around 3000 B.C. so that is a pretty long time ago. It is more than likely all the humans lived around Nuh a.s. area and when the flood came all were drowned except those who went on the ark. So if all the humans were in that region only then a local flood would be enough to drown them all. Scholars call Nuh a.s. the 2nd father of Adam of humanity. It's said the others that came didn't have any kids and humans continued from the offsprings of Nuh a.s.

So it could be local or global, depending which evidence supports more. Others just speculate because the Quran doesn't specifically say one way or another.

We sent Nuh to his people and he remained among them for fifty short of a thousand years; yet the Flood engulfed them while they were wrongdoers. (Qur'an, 29:14)

But they denied him so We rescued him and those with him in the Ark. And We drowned the people who denied Our Signs. They were a blind people. (Qur'an, 7:64)

We revealed to him: "Build the Ship under Our supervision and as We reveal. When Our command comes and water bubbles up from the earth, load into it a pair of every species, and your family-except for those among them against whom the word has already gone ahead. And do not address Me concerning those who do wrong. They shall be drowned." (Qur'an, 23:27)

It was said, "Earth, swallow up your water!" and, "Heaven, hold back your rain!" And the water subsided and the affair was concluded and the Ark came to land on al-Judi. And it was said, "Away with the people of the wrongdoers!" (Qur'an, 11:44)

We sent Nuh to his people: "I am a clear warner to you. Worship none but Allah. I fear for you the punishment of a painful day." (Qur'an, 11:25-26)

But they denied him so We rescued him and those with him in the Ark. And We drowned the people who denied Our Signs. They were a blind people. (Qur'an, 7:64)

So We rescued him and those with him by mercy from Us, and We cut off the last remnant of those who denied Our Signs and were not believers. (Qur'an, 7:72)So We opened the gates of heaven with torrential water and made the earth burst forth with gushing springs. And the waters met together in a way which was decreed. We bore him on a planked and well-caulked ship. (Qur'an, 54:11-13)


Some say based on the top that the verses talk about Nur a.s. so it was localized only. We can see how the scholars interpret these verses and if there's any hadith elaborating them but otherwise regardless of which one it was, it was enough to wipe out all intended humans.
 
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