Shia sheikh: Imams are better than prophets & Jesus would be honored to be Alis slave

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IslamIsSimple

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I know this will anger many, but I think its important to see what these esoteric groups are about. I dont consider Shia scholars to be Muslim, period. Jews and Christians are closer to Islam than many of them.

Jesus is not only a prophet, but among the five "Ulu Al Azm" messenger, and among those brought close to Allah, as the Qur'aan says. The Qur'an doesnt mention Ali once. Even if it did, nothing justifies insulting prophets like this.

As Qur'aan says : "Was it at Allah, His Aayat and His Messenger you were mocking? Make no excuses! You have rejected faith after you had accepted it."

I dont know how they dare to insist on things like this while keeping a straight face, and on TV? And facing no Shia condemnation AT ALL? This is what esoteric groups are all about. No wonder they ALL support an athiest regime like Bashar Al Assads.

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Watch the video til the end.
 

Kakorot

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Couldn't watch more than two minutes sorry.

I'm so glad 95% of the ummah are Sunni. Shi'a ppl are a minority alhamdulillaah.
 
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IslamIsSimple

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Couldn't watch more than two minutes sorry.

I'm so glad 95% of the ummah are Sunni. Shi'a ppl are a minority alhamdulillaah.

Theres a nice recitation of Quranic verses on Jesus in the end.

Anyway, some dont even see them as a minority, but outside the circle of Islam altogether. Scholars have had difference of opinion on whether they are still Muslim but extremly misguided, or not Muslim at all.

Some say they altogether are not Muslim. Others say only their scholars arent. Those who say its only the scholars say it on the basis that the common man who hasnt stubbornly rejected the right path after learning it, which doesnt apply to many today), is simply ignorant doesnt even know much about the religion, so cant be held accountable for what the imposters calling themselves "sheikh" preach.

So whats pretty much agreed upon is that their scholars arent Muslim. The difference of opinion is regarding the common man who is Shia by name without knowing much.

Shiasm (and the vast majority of todays Sufis) accept graveworship and blind following of Sheikhs, while the main messege of Islam, and the main messege of ALL prophets was to eliminate the middle man between a person and God.

Here you can see how they worship the dead. I wonder is there a single person in this video that even thought about praying to God directly?

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IslamIsSimple

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May Allah guide their poor laymen.. their money is taken.. and their women are used.. all in the name of the religion of the gangsters that call themselves Marji's.
 

Ahsen

Junior Member
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Couldn't watch more than two minutes sorry.

I'm so glad 95% of the ummah are Sunni. Shi'a ppl are a minority alhamdulillaah.

They are turning into majority very quickly.We just didn't realized it until now.
 
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IslamIsSimple

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They are turning into majority very quickly.We just didn't realized it until now.

I think its the opposite. Especially after the launch of Wesaal and Safa TV, and after Al Mustaqillah debates, and other debates on other new channels.

Also, an Iranian Sunni who was with Al Khumaini before finding out what its all about ( and whos brother is a major Sunni figure in Iran) launched a channel in their language.

Lots of changed, despite the fact that Iran launched over 50 channels for propaganda, these few channels had much stronger influence. This is because many Farsi speaking Shias are really isolated and have no idea what others believe in, other than what their government feeds them.

After their launch, many, many Internet forums started.. and their esoteric beliefs were shown. They always like to work in the dark while keeping people occupied with propaganda. But once the lights are on, its all over, and they cant speak freely at all, and if they do, they just discredit themselves.

Like the guy in the video, theres another clip of him saying that a French woman discovered why Ibraheem peace be upon him, wasnt hurt when walking on fire... because she saw Shias doing that while calling "Hussaaaain!" , and figured that Ibraheem alaihi assalam must have called out Hussaaain and therefore wasnt harmed.

I mean you dont need to explain why this is ridiculous, and stuff like this is on Shia channels all the time.. and many are started to see the bigger picture.
 

Tomtom

Banned
When I think of Shi'a this verse always come to mind.

Muhsin Khan

Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad SAW) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do.
 
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Sister Zohra

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When I think of Shi'a this verse always come to mind.

Muhsin Khan

Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad SAW) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do.

Assalamu Alaikum,

Exactly.
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Have you got proof? Any statistics etc.?

Mathematically they are still outnumbered by Sunni but geographically Shia are advancing. Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lubnan where the govts are now either shia or controlled by shia. They already have solid numbers in countries like Yemen, Bahrain, Pakistan, India and their influence spreading very quickly in other countries including Indonesia and Malaysia.
 
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IslamIsSimple

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When I think of Shi'a this verse always come to mind.

Muhsin Khan

Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad SAW) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do.

You know the actual word used in this verse for "sects" is "Shias". :)

(just to observe the irony, not suggesting any other interpertation)
 
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