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Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Assalamu'alaikum,

I'm very sad and upset with a brother and a short minded so called "Islamic organisation".

A French Muslim brother and his family asked for my help, so I asked this organisation to work with me to help this brother and his family. They are not asking money, help them to migrate out from France. Anything wrong with this request?

Sadly, one brother from this organisation passed a racist remarks which hurt me although it is not directed to me.

Holy Qur'an says:

'The believers are nothing else than brothers (in Islamic religion). So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy. [Q49:10]

My Arabic teachers confirmed the word "brothers" in this verse are commonly used for your own siblings, in other word we muslims are required to live and support each other like true brothers and sisters (correct me if I'm wrong).

So why racism still a problem in our society. To me, regardless his nationality, the moment a muslim brother require help we should try our best to help. What's wrong if he is French Muslim or Siberian Muslim? What is happening?

I'm sorry, I'm just letting go my frustration... just given up with this kind of people... shall I tell him, "if you and your organisation can't help just keep your mouth shut"?

Please console me, I'm very angry right now.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

There is no need to be angry.

We are living in the world on nationalized Islam. We are living in a world where we no longer look at the Dar-ul-Islam. We have to have a prefix to identify us.
We are still slaves to the post-colonial thought pattern. There are actually many threads on TTI that discuss this issue.

We need to educate people to become Believers again. The bond of Islam is stronger than anything else. How we forget. Islam disspells the notions of segregation and racism. The Quran tells us how we are created in diversity to help us recognize the oneness of Allah subhana wa taala.

So do not despair. Just keep educating others. We have to soften the hearts of Muslims in helping them understand what Islam demands from us.
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
How not to despair when you hear imams and ustaz giving speech in the mosque often pass racial slurs? Can you take it? I've addressed the issue with the chairman of the mosque many times however no action taken.

I know we have a lot of work to do, while we call others to Islam we also have a duty to educate our brothers and sisters on why we need to practice true Islam.

I'm still outraged and angry with this brother sent racist slurs, so I'm yet to reply his mail because I know he will not stand if I started firing at him and his organisation.

Returning to the caliphate system is a dream for every Muslims and it will remain a dream when we still have nationalized Muslims.Thank you sister Aapa for you reply. You absolutely right.
 

Aisya al-Humaira

الحمدلله على كل حال
Assalamu'alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

Just one curious question. What kind of "Islaamic organisation" do they run? Do they give talks/consultants/services to the community?

Racist slurs especially from someone who is looked upon within the community will eventually lose respects from the people if he (the Imaam/leader/head of organisation) isn't willing to open up his narrow-minded mind or the feeling of *my* nationality/*my* people. In the long run, if people hang on to being assabiyah, they will eventually become like the Arabs during the time of jahiliyyah. Wa naothobillaah. Of course I wasn't pointing directly to your imaam, brother, but saying it generally.

I'd say, if you seek for his help and he isn't willing to help, then move on to others who would give out their hand to help this brother.

And I'm sure you're aware of the bureaucracy in this country though not as bad as in Middle East countries but its something that's not helpful for those who wish to stay here.

:wasalam:
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Assalamu'alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

Just one curious question. What kind of "Islaamic organisation" do they run? Do they give talks/consultants/services to the community?

Racist slurs especially from someone who is looked upon within the community will eventually lose respects from the people if he (the Imaam/leader/head of organisation) isn't willing to open up his narrow-minded mind or the feeling of *my* nationality/*my* people. In the long run, if people hang on to being assabiyah, they will eventually become like the Arabs during the time of jahiliyyah. Wa naothobillaah. Of course I wasn't pointing directly to your imaam, brother, but saying it generally.

I'd say, if you seek for his help and he isn't willing to help, then move on to others who would give out their hand to help this brother.

And I'm sure you're aware of the bureaucracy in this country though not as bad as in Middle East countries but its something that's not helpful for those who wish to stay here.

:wasalam:

Sister Humaira,

I want to forget and forgive these black sheep in our community. Unfortunately I've signed up life membership of this organisation. Regarding the ustaz, recently I came to know from a reliable sources that some TV celebrities who are ustaz and ustazah are asking quite extraorbitant fees to appear in mosque or forum. Looks like now no longer "innamal a'malu binniyat" but "innamal a'malu bi al-fulus". You know how Ustaz Azhar Idrus can pull the crowd but he never ask such fees, he never ask any fees. Unfortunately some ustaz (not generalizing and no backbiting as I'm not naming who they are) now openly ask for fees.

By the way, are you aware that Dr Zakir Naik will be in town?

28 Sep 12 - UiTM Shah Alam

5Oct12 - Kuantan

7Oct12 - PWTC, KL

You may book your free ticket at http://drzakirnaikmalaysiantour2012.eventbrite.com
 

Aisya al-Humaira

الحمدلله على كل حال
I'm not really a big fan of Ustaadh Azhar. Why? Because some of his sayings like "Doing this/Recite this will give faadhilaat" isn't based upon a saheeh daleel thus people can question about it. I agree that the way he pulls the crowd especially among the youth is overwhelming. However, did you listened to his lecture about "Wahabi" being among the deviant sect? I'm not trying to judge which Ustaadh is better which is not. I'm just pointing out some important points that aren't to be ignored. Allaahu a'laam.

Yes, I'm aware Dr Zakir will be in town. In fact, he'll be coming to my campus.
 

Peony Weed

New Member
:salam2:

I've too encountered such talks that may be a bit controversial. I choose to learn from it, if it's a good example I'll follow...If they're bad and I know to the fact it's not a good example, I shall keep it in mind not to follow and put it at bay.

Don't feel frustrated of people being racist or what not, it's a culture thing and not a religion thing anyway. I believe you could still seek other alternatives for help if your intention to help is because of Allah. Why are we so frustrated to one bad apple when there are many good apple out there.

Whether or not people are using religion to earn their living is solely up to them. What they earned from it is a Rahmah from Allah and who are we to condemn how they use their knowledge to earn their living. Allah is the judge of their doing in this world anyway.

But what's wrong with the price we need to pay to learn good things & why not? We pay a lot to learn in Uni, that knowledge is mostly useful in this world and yet we questioned about the price to learn Islam.

In the past when I asked my friend to karaoke, they willing to spend hundreds for it, but recently when I asked them to join a course on handling janazah that cost $10, there were just so many reasoning not to...Just saying that price is not everything.
 

alf2

Islam is a way of life
I want to forget and forgive these black sheep in our community. Unfortunately I've signed up life membership of this organisation. Regarding the ustaz, recently I came to know from a reliable sources that some TV celebrities who are ustaz and ustazah are asking quite extraorbitant fees to appear in mosque or forum. Looks like now no longer "innamal a'malu binniyat" but "innamal a'malu bi al-fulus". You know how Ustaz Azhar Idrus can pull the crowd but he never ask such fees, he never ask any fees. Unfortunately some ustaz (not generalizing and no backbiting as I'm not naming who they are) now openly ask for fees.

What do you mean "lifetime membership"?

I wonder why some Scholars charge so much money...I have been told "Well it pays for their travel" Umm...$40 from each person, when there are over 400 people there covers more than just travel....Im not trying to sound cheap, but what about Muslims who are financially needy? Who cannot separate with that money when they need to buy food? Are they not worth Islamic knowledge? Or maybe the excess goes to charity?
 

Peony Weed

New Member
What do you mean "lifetime membership"?

I wonder why some Scholars charge so much money...I have been told "Well it pays for their travel" Umm...$40 from each person, when there are over 400 people there covers more than just travel....Im not trying to sound cheap, but what about Muslims who are financially needy? Who cannot separate with that money when they need to buy food? Are they not worth Islamic knowledge? Or maybe the excess goes to charity?

I was wondering on the "Lifetime Membership" too. I didn't know we have to be a member to an organisation to be a Muslim... but guess it's the material world we live in ain't it? whatever happens to modesty, idk...

I do hope whatever excess goes back into charity too...only Allah knows
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
In my country you have sign-up to be a member of an Islamic organisation and pay annual subscription. I paid the amount is required to be a life member so that I don't have to pay my annual subscription. The fee is not too high, I'm ok with that. Regarding scholars charging money for their appearance, to me I don't mind paying the amount which is justified for their status. But I don't like they setting the rate. What me if the rate is 5 figures.

Honestly, I'm very worried. I've promised to this brother from France that I will help him to migrate. As a member of this organisation, I thought they can help but I was wrong. They even dare to tell me that they only help local Muslims. But I know they have collected funds for Muslims in other countries and do send volunteers to other countries. So I'm puzzle.

I seriously want to forget about it. I just want solution, how to help this brother? Pls make du'a for me.
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
I'm not really a big fan of Ustaadh Azhar. Why? Because some of his sayings like "Doing this/Recite this will give faadhilaat" isn't based upon a saheeh daleel thus people can question about it. I agree that the way he pulls the crowd especially among the youth is overwhelming. However, did you listened to his lecture about "Wahabi" being among the deviant sect? I'm not trying to judge which Ustaadh is better which is not. I'm just pointing out some important points that aren't to be ignored. Allaahu a'laam.

Yes, I'm aware Dr Zakir will be in town. In fact, he'll be coming to my campus.

Honestly, I've not listened to his live ceramah. He came to my mosque, there were huge crowd. But I did not go, I listened to one of his talk in DVD, I disliked it. I've told some ustaz I know to tell him some of the things he is sayings is not good to general Muslims. Alhamdulillah, my ustaz agreed with my observation and he will find way to send the message to the ustaz.
 

strive-may-i

Junior Member
Assalamu'alaikum,

I'm very sad and upset with a brother and a short minded so called "Islamic organisation".

A French Muslim brother and his family asked for my help, so I asked this organisation to work with me to help this brother and his family. They are not asking money, help them to migrate out from France. Anything wrong with this request?

Sadly, one brother from this organisation passed a racist remarks which hurt me although it is not directed to me.

Holy Qur'an says:

'The believers are nothing else than brothers (in Islamic religion). So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy. [Q49:10]

My Arabic teachers confirmed the word "brothers" in this verse are commonly used for your own siblings, in other word we muslims are required to live and support each other like true brothers and sisters (correct me if I'm wrong).

So why racism still a problem in our society. To me, regardless his nationality, the moment a muslim brother require help we should try our best to help. What's wrong if he is French Muslim or Siberian Muslim? What is happening?

I'm sorry, I'm just letting go my frustration... just given up with this kind of people... shall I tell him, "if you and your organisation can't help just keep your mouth shut"?

Please console me, I'm very angry right now.
Brother,
Some vents, create in us a dent.
And all energy wastefully spent.
Let them remain in their bent tent!

Its okay. Well, lets say they are used to being in the well! You lead and show the way. There are more important aspects to think about for the French family.
 

strive-may-i

Junior Member
Prophet :saw: said: 'All God's creatures are His family; and he is the most beloved of God who doeth most good to God's creatures.'
 
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