Fake Converts to Christianity- video

Proud2BeHumble

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
There are people who will sell their deen for small price (worldly benifits) but there are also people who leave all the comforts of this world for the sake of Allah and follow straight path.

Allah knows very well what is in our hearts and he will reward every soul accordingly. :)
 
apocalypse77

apocalypse77

Junior Member
Rmbr, Allah has already announce such hypocrites int he 2nd surah of the Quran.Verily Allah knows his creations and what their intentions

[2:10] In their minds there is a disease. Consequently, GOD augments their disease. They have incurred a painful retribution for their lying.

[2:13] When they are told, "Believe like the people who believed," they say, "Shall we believe like the fools who believed?" In fact, it is they who are fools, but they do not know.

[2:14] When they meet the believers, they say, "We believe," but when alone with their devils, they say, "We are with you; we were only mocking."

[2:15] GOD mocks them, and leads them on in their transgressions, blundering.

[2:16] It is they who bought the straying, at the expense of guidance. Such trade never prospers, nor do they receive any guidance.
 
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MubarekMuslimah

Junior Member
Salaams

Oops sorry for the title typo - yes its fake converts FROM Islam to Christianity. I.e people who preach false things about Islam and say they were once muslim - as a means to justify why they have supposedly left this beautiful deen and a way to preach falsehood to others.

I will edit the original post insha'allah to make the title correct! Sorry

Salaams
 
apocalypse77

apocalypse77

Junior Member
MubarekMuslimah said:
Salaams

Oops sorry for the title typo - yes its fake converts FROM Islam to Christianity. I.e people who preach false things about Islam and say they were once muslim - as a means to justify why they have supposedly left this beautiful deen and a way to preach falsehood to others.

I will edit the original post insha'allah to make the title correct! Sorry

Salaams
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well, again the quran addressed the issue of that . rmbr the time when muhammad dawahs islam to the christians and jews and there were hypocrites who pretend to be muslims but then turn their back against islam to show islam is not worthy of a religion to follow?
 
abdellah007

abdellah007

Junior Member
it s so obvious

even the way he says the word "islam" shows that he neva been a muslim.

it s all about propaganda.

thx for sharing
 
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Abdul Hasib

Student of Knowledge
Yeah I've seen a lot of these fake "Muslims converting to Christianity" on Youtube. The person who keeps on making these videos is called AlwaysKafir. I've seen about 2 of them, but it doesn't change my mind because I know a lot about Christianity, and the lie that they say that they worship only God, and I know Islam brings me closer to Allah 1000x more than Christianity would to me.

Wa Salam.
 
apocalypse77

apocalypse77

Junior Member
Abdul Hasib said:
Yeah I've seen a lot of these fake "Muslims converting to Christianity" on Youtube. The person who keeps on making these videos is called AlwaysKafir. I've seen about 2 of them, but it doesn't change my mind because I know a lot about Christianity, and the lie that they say that they worship only God, and I know Islam brings me closer to Allah 1000x more than Christianity would to me.

Wa Salam.
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Bro, are u a revert to Islam?

AlwaysKafir always get me on my nerves.this person seems to have some kind of epidemic cancer against Muslims.
 
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Abdul Hasib

Student of Knowledge
^ No I'm not a convert brother. ;) I'm a born Muslim and I like Islam. I'll never think about becoming an Infidel bro.
 
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BGfromGB

Junior Member
Fake muslims.

I can't believe it.

All you people sit on this thread and pass judgement on these people. Have you personally spoken to them and tried to reason with them? Have you not prayed for them?

Clearly these people have problems with Islam as their own religion. What has Islam done to alleviate their problems?

I bet you one word. Nothing.

All people from all differing religions are, from time to time, vexed with questions for which they need answers. There's no harm in that. It is perfectly normal. Is it therefore right to castigate them?

No it is not.

Instead of condeming these people as outright fakes, and out of love for your fellow human beings, why not prostrate yourselves in front of the Almighty and pray for them. And pray and pray again for them. Ask him to to put his merciful hand on them and guide them on the right path.

I have major issues with the christian faith. I left my church. Does that make me a 'fake christian'? No. Not at all.

I have taken my problems to my pastor. I have discussed these with him. We spent many, many hours, discussing, debating,digesting and pulling apart most contentious issues.

It did not work. My pastor has kept open the door for me. He has told me that he is available 7/24. He prays for me, together with the congregation and has asked God for true guidance. No way have I been rejected.

The congregation is very sad that I left the church and have wished me well in my journey towards finding a new faith. And yet despite this I am still regarded as part of that community. The love and concerned feelings they have shown me gives me hope for my future.

This is how I believe we must behave towards to people, who for reasons of their own, have left their religions, in search of the truth and love of G-d.

In religion, there is no such thing as propaganda. And if these people are genuinely in search of G-d, HIS love, his mercifulness, his benificence, then who are we to stand in their way.

I will personally pray for them as do people pray for me. That is the honourable thing to do.

God will judge his creatures. Not us.
 
justoneofmillion

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
BGfromGB said:
I can't believe it.

All you people sit on this thread and pass judgement on these people. Have you personally spoken to them and tried to reason with them? Have you not prayed for them?

Clearly these people have problems with Islam as their own religion. What has Islam done to alleviate their problems?

I bet you one word. Nothing.

All people from all differing religions are, from time to time, vexed with questions for which they need answers. There's no harm in that. It is perfectly normal. Is it therefore right to castigate them?

No it is not.

Instead of condeming these people as outright fakes, and out of love for your fellow human beings, why not prostrate yourselves in front of the Almighty and pray for them. And pray and pray again for them. Ask him to to put his merciful hand on them and guide them on the right path.

I have major issues with the christian faith. I left my church. Does that make me a 'fake christian'? No. Not at all.

I have taken my problems to my pastor. I have discussed these with him. We spent many, many hours, discussing, debating,digesting and pulling apart most contentious issues.

It did not work. My pastor has kept open the door for me. He has told me that he is available 7/24. He prays for me, together with the congregation and has asked God for true guidance. No way have I been rejected.

The congregation is very sad that I left the church and have wished me well in my journey towards finding a new faith. And yet despite this I am still regarded as part of that community. The love and concerned feelings they have shown me gives me hope for my future.

This is how I believe we must behave towards to people, who for reasons of their own, have left their religions, in search of the truth and love of G-d.

In religion, there is no such thing as propaganda. And if these people are genuinely in search of G-d, HIS love, his mercifulness, his benificence, then who are we to stand in their way.

I will personally pray for them as do people pray for me. That is the honourable thing to do.

God will judge his creatures. Not us.
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hi BG we are not judging them at all dear friend what the brother in the vid is acknowledging is that especially these individuals could never have been muslims in the proper meaning of the word because of the lack of knowledge they have when talking about islam or quoting a verse from the Quran and explaining it but really about the most basicand elementary things you know and that is too phony! in this special case his argument makes perfectly sens and what you said also makes sens it is Allah swt who knows the secrets of his servants and nothing can be hidden from him one day that veil will be removed from all of us! and Allah swt knows best
take care

sindbad:SMILY259:
 
TheHumbleWun

TheHumbleWun

Banned
In religion, there is no such thing as propaganda. And if these people are genuinely in search of G-d, HIS love, his mercifulness, his benificence, then who are we to stand in their way.

God will judge his creatures. Not us.
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Thank you for your input, and I appreciate your comments, but when say "there is no such thing as propaganda in religion," what critieria are you using (Quran, Bible, Torah, etc) or is this just a personal opinion? How do you distinguish truth from false? For example, when you take an exam do you circle all the answers or just only one. With this analogy in mind, when God has set only 1 way to worship Him and one correct path to truth, then by all means doesn't that make all others misleading/propaganda?

I'm just curious, have you by any chance read the Quran? I am not forcing you to read it, but in my humble opinion it's a good starting point.

The issue is not whether these people became Christian, we can not judge the outcome of their action--only when they meet their Creator--but we can judge their information and I think the majority are judging their information (based on the Quran), their lack of knowledge, and the misleading excerpts they quote from the Quran-- not the outcome of their action. Human beings have free will and we are given the ability to judge and determine if something is right/wrong, to an extent. The Quran, the sunnahs of the Prophet (pbuh), and hadiths helps on just about every issue. They are used as a guideline to help us in our life in addition to our free will. Whether we follow these guidelines or not, only God can judge our ultimate place (heaven/hell).

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renton

New Member
this reminds me of a program people tried to make a few years back.
They were going to cpmpare christian/muslim converts and the other way round.
They found plenty of muslim converts who were willing to talk on the program, but not enough christian converts who would actually show their faces.
Simply because they were afraid of being shown to be converts. We studied this in RS, and the christian converts were all blacked out. Plus many of them had not been able to get back into contact with their parents after the conversion.

However, on the flipside, the same thing (but not as bad) happened to me when i told my parents i was an athiest. I still see them but apparently I "dissapoint them"

oh, and thehumbleone, "The issue is not whether these people became Christian, we can not judge the outcome of their action--only when they meet their Creator--but we can judge their information and I think the majority are judging their information (based on the Quran), their lack of knowledge, and the misleading excerpts they quote from the Quran-- not the outcome of their action. Human beings have free will and we are given the ability to judge and determine if something is right/wrong, to an extent. The Quran, the sunnahs of the Prophet (pbuh), and hadiths helps on just about every issue. They are used as a guideline to help us in our life in addition to our free will. Whether we follow these guidelines or not, only God can judge our ultimate place (heaven/hell)."

very nice!
an excellent point. Lying simply to misinform others is awful.
But people should be free to believe what they want
 
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Waseem Hanif

Banned
Those videos are faker than Michael Jackson´s nose.

Those are made in some Hollywood studio.

I mean what else is left: Fake videos, Fake Qurans, Fake wars....

WHERE DOES IT STOP ?
 
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unalsnake

Junior Member
in turkey missionaries giving money to poor people and some of them people(munafeek) turning christianty with money. Rasulullah(s.a.v.) saying a hadith "Near Kıyamah(apocalypse) some people sell their deen with money" this turning christian people not important as you can see islam is fastest growning relligion many many people turning islam in world..
 
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renton

New Member
unalsnake said:
in turkey missionaries giving money to poor people and some of them people(munafeek) turning christianty with money. Rasulullah(s.a.v.) saying a hadith "Near Kıyamah(apocalypse) some people sell their deen with money" this turning christian people not important as you can see islam is fastest growning relligion many many people turning islam in world..
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surely they are giving money to the poor people because they are poor?
not to ake them convert. maybe they are converting because they can see how nice charity is?
if I gave money to poor people it is because i feel charity is a good thing, not that they would all become athiests.
people convert to different religions because they align themselves with a certian mentality. just because i was born into a christian family, does not make me a christian. similaly, with someone born into a muslim family does not make them a muslim. you choose your own beliefs from what you see and learn.
 
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