Worried for our brothers arrested unjustly

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hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu dear brothers and sisters

Its been a couple of days, some Muslim brothers have been arrested by British and Australian authorities without any evidence of their link to terror organisations. Why dont the kuffars provide proof or evidence if they have any link? The flag bearers of democracy and justice, why are you unable to speak now?

Why no protests against this injustice by kuffars, but Muslims are speaking against our dear brothers?

A spokesperson from MCB called them kafirs. Who is he to call a Muslim a kafir?

Only Allah Subhanahu wa Taala knows their true intentions. A sane Muslim would spread Islam not kill innocent people.

you heard about this brother Maher Arar who was arrested for no reasons and went through so much torture and pain.

There are hundreds more like this who are undergoing torture and injustice by so-called people of democracy. Yet the whole world keeps quiet and does not say anything.

I quote brother Mabsoot's words :-

it is completely unjustified to blame whole communities for these outrages. Some people go around complaining about the "Jews" doing this and that or the "Americans" being evil.. but, have failed to realise that not all people are like that. - And even if a lot of these people condone the injustices of their leaders, i.e. Republican supporters or the Zionist supporters of Israel. It is wrong and unjustified for someone to go about trying to kill these people. It is murder.

If someone is guilty of a crime, they must be dealt with through the proper legal system. Obviously, if someone is meting out what they percieve to be "Islamic justice", then they have no right to do that. That has to be done in an Islamic state, with proper fair courts and judges.

So, this idea that "they kill our people, we kill theirs" has no basis in Islam. These people who commit the crime of terrorism are the same as the people they hate. They are murdering innocent men, women and children. People of all backgrounds. It could have been my family in the airport, my mother in the tube on July 7th. Infact, I know of several people in my family who regularly commute through central London. And sadly, some of the forum members here have lost family members in the 7/7 terrorist atrocity.

Islam condemns ALL injustices. -

- Muslims are weak due not to some "jewish conspiracy" or Neocon tactics.. but, because of their own weakness and lack of knowledge of Islam. Lack of implementing Islam properly. If you look at many of the Muslim countries, you will see Muslims do not even worship Allah properly. THey set up Masjids above the graves of some so called "Saint" or "Awliya".. and they make dua to the dead as way of getting their prayers answered, even though that this is Shirk (associating partners with Allah). They do many bidah (innovations in the Religion) and also they carry with them many supersticions and cultural ideas and beliefs that have nothing at all to do with Islam.

So, this corruption in their life, is what brings about weakness. It is what allows some Muslims to be greedy and selfish and not think about their brothers and sisters. It is what allows for our leaders to not be good. - For if the people truly were upon correct Tawheed and Aqeedah, Allah would indeed make us united. For this is the promise of Allah.

The Arabs used to be very advanced, but this was not due to them being ARab, but due to ISlam. And when they departed and lost that same keeness on following Islam properly, they became disunited and astray. That eventually, led to their downfall and loss of land in Andalucia and in Palestine.

Now, anytime something happens, people rightly get upset and angry. But, they dont understand why and how to get through these times or to help our Muslim brothers and sisters. Certainly, the craziest thing is to kill innocent people living in countries 1000s of miles away. That is just pure vented frustration being unleashed from Emotion of anger and grief at the genocide done by the said States. - It is not justice. It is certainly not Islamic.

The first step for us is to do what we can according to the Islamic principles. Things are often much more complicated then what might be portrayed by some excited hothead.
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Read these for more information

Why Muslims are weak today?

The current state of the Muslim World

Importance of TAWHEED in reviving the SUNNAH

The confusion on what is suicide and who may be targeted in war

Strangeness of Islam and Muslims

Terrorism not from ISLAM

Why Angry Protests? Islam Does Not Condone Violence and Calls for Patience

Terrorism and Oppression of Women has nothing to do with ISLAM

wa/salam
 
kayleigh

kayleigh

Junior Member
Are you talking about the London bombs and Glasgow thing? If so, last I heard, they were from North Africa and the Middle East, but the authorities were saying their actions had no religions motivations.

Proof and evidence will come out in due time, in court. The police don't have to prove anything to the public or justify the arrests right now, depending on how long they've been in custody. If its been only a few days, everything sounds legal to me. Sometimes it would harm the investigation and case if things were released to the public, which could be why you haven't heard anything about it.

If its the same in GB/AUS as it used to be in the US, they can be held for a period of time without charges, but charges have to be brought within that period of time or they have to be released. If thats the case in GB/AUS, and the period of time isn't up yet, there is no real great injustice and no real cause for protest. Its not like its specific to Muslims. Sometimes this happens to non-Muslims too.
 
amyaishazouaoui

amyaishazouaoui

Junior Member
hussain.mahammed said:
A spokesperson from MCB called them kafirs. Who is he to call a Muslim a kafir?

Only Allah Subhanahu wa Taala knows their true intentions. A sane Muslim would spread Islam not kill innocent people.
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:salam2:
This goes for everyone.....only Allah knows if people are muslim or kafir! I know a sister who has been muslim for about 4 years and is still not "out" because she is very scared......inshallah she will get the courage soon. To everyone else she may seem like a "kafir"

:wasalam:
 
jabba

jabba

Salafi Dawah is the best
amyaishazouaoui said:
:salam2:
This goes for everyone.....only Allah knows if people are muslim or kafir! I know a sister who has been muslim for about 4 years and is still not "out" because she is very scared......inshallah she will get the courage soon. To everyone else she may seem like a "kafir"

:wasalam:
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Salam Alaikum

THANK YOU SISTER, you don't know how much I hate it when people throw around that insulting rude word, like it's nothing. Only Allah (SWT) knows what is in someones heart, AllaH (SWT) judges us NOT His followers.
 
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Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Assalamu-alaikum

:salam2:
Dear Sister I agree that now people do use the word kafir in a negative way but the true meaning of the word is not negative. You may like to read the following thread,

Meaning of Kafir
jabba said:
THANK YOU SISTER, you don't know how much I hate it when people throw around that insulting rude word, like it's nothing. Only Allah (SWT) knows what is in someones heart, AllaH (SWT) judges us NOT His followers.
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jabba

jabba

Salafi Dawah is the best
Mohsin said:
:salam2:
Dear Sister I agree that now people do use the word kafir in a negative way but the true meaning of the word is not negative. You may like to read the following thread,

Meaning of Kafir
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:salam2:

Thank you I took a look at the thread. But the fact is A LOT of people on this site are converts to Islam, meaning they have non-Muslim family. Do you think we enjoy hearing people being called kaffirs. Most of us have family who are non-Muslims, and hearing people being called this is an insult (as it is taken out of context by those who use it), to me this is a automatic judgement on their part (which is very unIslamic) since these people have no idea what someone truly knows/believes.

This is the meaning of Kuffir :The root word of Kufr is 'kafara' which means to cover something or not to disclose something. So it refers to people who know the truth but cover it and fail to disclose it.

Whose to say someone is covering the truth? maybe they have been accused of covering it (ie being called a kaffir) when they actually never knew the truth to begin with. Again watch what you say and how you say it, you can't honestly accuse a whole country of being kaffir, that is really ridiculous.
 
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Aapa

Mirajmom
Salaam

We live in world that is riddled with false notions. There will never be any fairness..due process...for those who do not buy into the false world.
Our brothers and sisters will constantly be denied a fair trial...becuase those who arrest them are not fair.

We have to pray. We have to clean our hearts. We have to take action individually and not wait for someone to take over. It is so simple. Each one of us, starting with me, needs to pray one extra prayer, we need to do one act of charity...just one extra act....we need to pay one extra dollar to zakat...we all know the outcome...we just need to take action today...
 
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Muhammad_A

Penguin fancier
Salaam y'all

If I was the BMA I'd be up in arms over this unjust persection of innocent medical personnel.

After all, everyone know doctors would never participate in such heinous acts :p
 
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hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wabrakatuhu dear brothers and sisters
OUR BROTHER MOHAMMED HANEEF is free and has been proved innocent by the Australian Government. Truth is out Alhamdulillah.
Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar.
 
Wulf

Wulf

Junior Member
A'Salaamu 'aleikom
Dr Mohammed Haneef has been released for lack of evidence and has returned to India to be with his Family and see his new born child.

The public protests by the general public in Australia, (mostly non Muslim), greatly helped in this, along with the efforts of the Media in uncovering the cover ups and conflicting evidence, which turned out to be nothing more than a Political ploy due to upcoming elections.

The opposition parties are calling for a Judicial enquiry as to the circumstances of the arrest and as to the injustices of the Anti Terrorist Act.

W'salaam

Ibrahim.
 
Bawar

Bawar

Struggling2Surrender
Assalamu alaikum all
and thank you brother Ibrahim for shedding more light on this issue as being from Australia, you have first hand information.
I am very happy that our brother is innocent. We need to send the world the message of peace.

May Allah swt help us live life of true muslims.
May Allah swt prevail the truth and may HE give us the ability to act upon the truth and deliver it to others.

Ameen
 
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Think_itpays

New Member
WE CAN NOT JUDGE

Dear
Only ALLAH knows who is who......
No comments for a man who recites KALIMA......we can call kafirs who are declared non beleivers
 
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