salam salam

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
My name is Yasmine, Im originally from Sweden but I have last year moved to London. Im not here to be converted or anything, Im very religious (Christian) and I am happy living the way I do praying to God.
Im just here because Im very curious about Islam. I have just recently met a muslim man. I am very much in love but there's just one thing (and im not afraid to mention it), he is very religious and it sometimes scares me. I do not know why. We just came home from Tunisia where we one day stood outside a mosque because he wanted to go in and ask the imam if he could amrry us, when he was inside, minutes after they called for prayer and I was terrified.
Things I see on TV and read about scares me too, fathers abducting their children and the husband forcing his wife to convert into Islam.
This probably sounds stupid in your eyes Im sure it does but I guess im just here because I dont really believe in it and I need "proof" or something.
So yes, thats me... :)
God bless.
 

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
Hi YasmineSwe,


My name is Yasmine, Im originally from Sweden but I have last year moved to London.

Thats great !

Im not here to be converted or anything, Im very religious (Christian) and I am happy living the way I do praying to God.

Religion is a personal choice. God has permitted this freedom of choice. No compulsion in religion is allowed. See what Quran says:

2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion" ....لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ


Im just here because Im very curious about Islam. I have just recently met a muslim man. I am very much in love but there's just one thing (and im not afraid to mention it), he is very religious and it sometimes scares me. I do not know why.

Your "unknown fears about Islam" and lack of knowledge about islamic belief may be one of the reason....

We just came home from Tunisia where we one day stood outside a mosque because he wanted to go in and ask the imam if he could amrry us, when he was inside, minutes after they called for prayer and I was terrified.

There was no need to be terrified. That was simply a call to prayer which means following. (It is like christians bells that rings in the church to call for prayers)

Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah.
Come to prayer. Come to prayer.
Come to Success. Come to Success.
Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
There is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.

Things I see on TV and read about scares me too, fathers abducting their children and the husband forcing his wife to convert into Islam.
This probably sounds stupid in your eyes Im sure it does but I guess im just here because I dont really believe in it and I need "proof" or something.

Yes, you might have some negative ideas about Islam taken from media which portray it in that way. You are going to take an important step and want to live with him for whole life. Even though you remain a christian, You will always find islam around yourself because he is a practising Muslim. So, why don't you study Islam at basic level at least so that your fears are gone? My humble advice to you is to study basics of Islam atleast so that you find yourself in more comfortable situation in dealing any related issues. That is just an advice.

Take Care

Best Regards
 

hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaikum yasmine

Dont worry about being here at all. Feel free to ask anything you want to know about Islam. I am providing some intial threads for you to know about Islam. Dont get scared of ISLAM. :) Your curiosity is good. Curiousness leads people to think, search and research upon matters which tingles them.

You want to know Who is Allah. Click here: Learn About Allah. If you want to know about Fundamental Beliefs in Islam just click here.Its so easy you see, you are just a click away from knowing What Islam is all about SUbhan Allah.

I think you better deal and read this thread about Misconceptions in Islam Just click on it.

Wow you think Islam is about forcing and abducting people. Then its not correct at all. Learn about the Status of Women in Islam This would be informative for you I hope Insha Allah.

You would be curious also Who or What is a Muslim?. Just click on it.

And I think you would love to read these threads The Character of a Muslim and Women, Family and Marriage in Islam

lastly give a read to this article. Click here

Any more questions, please dont hesitate to ask us Insha Allah.

wa/salam
 

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
Yes, you might have some negative ideas about Islam taken from media which portray it in that way. You are going to take an important step and want to live with him for whole life. Even though you remain a christian, You will always find islam around yourself because he is a practising Muslim. So, why don't you study Islam at basic level at least so that your fears are gone? My humble advice to you is to study basics of Islam atleast so that you find yourself in more comfortable situation in dealing any related issues. That is just an advice.

Take Care

Best Regards

Yes I believe you're right. I want to think I know alot about islam as I have studied it in school but what I think is the problem is that Im scared of things I see, for example there was a documentary on channel 4 in england not too long ago, I think you can find it on youtube, there were imams preaching about non muslims as "kufaars" and hat they dont have equal right to life and such. But then on the other hand, I have met this lovely man in my life and yes, I guess I just need to get my fears away before I take things further... Education? Do you think that will help?
 

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
As salamu alaikum yasmine

Dont worry about being here at all. Feel free to ask anything you want to know about Islam. I am providing some intial threads for you to know about Islam. Dont get scared of ISLAM. :) Your curiosity is good. Curiousness leads people to think, search and research upon matters which tingles them.

You want to know Who is Allah. Click here: Learn About Allah. If you want to know about Fundamental Beliefs in Islam just click here.Its so easy you see, you are just a click away from knowing What Islam is all about SUbhan Allah.

I think you better deal and read this thread about Misconceptions in Islam Just click on it.

Wow you think Islam is about forcing and abducting people. Then its not correct at all. Learn about the Status of Women in Islam This would be informative for you I hope Insha Allah.

You would be curious also Who or What is a Muslim?. Just click on it.

And I think you would love to read these threads The Character of a Muslim and Women, Family and Marriage in Islam

lastly give a read to this article. Click here

Any more questions, please dont hesitate to ask us Insha Allah.

wa/salam

Thank you!! :) So, people who does these things like abducting and forcing their women to convert, Islam doesnt supprt this?
 

hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaikum yasmineSwe

You are welcome, anytime. If you learn about Islam from non-authentic sources, or from sources which are not trustable then I humbly request you to refer to authentic sources which speaks about Islam and not any biased, man-made ideas about it. I advise you not to use television to learn about Islam. A lot of people talk out of knowledge, with corrupted sources disrupting everything, including the people and themselves.

Regarding to the word Kuffar or kafir, I just want to tell that its an arabic word which in english means NON MUSLIM. Thats all, its not a racist or abusive word, so dont be scared and be cleared of misconceptions. Educating with oneself is important, but from authentic sources. Just remember that.

And lastly, Islam at all does not support forcing people to convert or abducting people etc etc. These are all misconceptions and misinterpretations done by people who are ignorant of Islam. These might contain people who themselves are Muslims and also Non Muslims.

Use the search option for more information you want to know. Thats really helpful.

Thanks a lot once again. Keep asking questions. :)

walaikum as salam
 

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
As salamu alaikum yasmineSwe

You are welcome, anytime. If you learn about Islam from non-authentic sources, or from sources which are not trustable then I humbly request you to refer to authentic sources which speaks about Islam and not any biased, man-made ideas about it. I advise you not to use television to learn about Islam. A lot of people talk out of knowledge, with corrupted sources disrupting everything, including the people and themselves.

Regarding to the word Kuffar or kafir, I just want to tell that its an arabic word which in english means NON MUSLIM. Thats all, its not a racist or abusive word, so dont be scared and be cleared of misconceptions. Educating with oneself is important, but from authentic sources. Just remember that.

And lastly, Islam at all does not support forcing people to convert or abducting people etc etc. These are all misconceptions and misinterpretations done by people who are ignorant of Islam. These might contain people who themselves are Muslims and also Non Muslims.

Use the search option for more information you want to know. Thats really helpful.

Thanks a lot once again. Keep asking questions. :)

walaikum as salam

Thank you, that made it a little easier to understand! Can I ask you, are you a man or a woman? Man I think but yes....you never know.
As I said I do respect your religion but I sometimes dont understand it and I definately cant agree. These links were sent to me and yes they really offened me as a strong Christian woman, I would never want to marry my muslim man if he has these thoughts about me.
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية

I read once that a man abducted his daughter from Britain to Algeria, he said he's a muslim, would Islam support this?
May I also ask which country you are from?

Im sorry I ask so many questions but Im engaged to a muslim man and yes he wants to marry... soon! And i still have many unanswered questions left until I can take that step as well.

Shokran :)
 

zakariya

Junior Member
Thank you, that made it a little easier to understand! Can I ask you, are you a man or a woman? Man I think but yes....you never know.
As I said I do respect your religion but I sometimes dont understand it and I definately cant agree. These links were sent to me and yes they really offened me as a strong Christian woman, I would never want to marry my muslim man if he has these thoughts about me.
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية

I read once that a man abducted his daughter from Britain to Algeria, he said he's a muslim, would Islam support this?
May I also ask which country you are from?

Im sorry I ask so many questions but Im engaged to a muslim man and yes he wants to marry... soon! And i still have many unanswered questions left until I can take that step as well.

Shokran :)

hi i want to asking u way u want to marry muslim man if u not a muslim
i want to now way
and u said he is religios man i dont think he is if he is way he go to muslim sisters to help he kids islamic way i dont understand this
iam muslim man and i naver dreem to marry kafir women way soud i

becouse i can fine muslim women every wre so way shoud i marry others
subhana allah

i realy dont unsdersand way muslim men want to marry others
 

Veiled_Knight

Junior Member
Thank you, that made it a little easier to understand! Can I ask you, are you a man or a woman? Man I think but yes....you never know.
As I said I do respect your religion but I sometimes dont understand it and I definately cant agree. These links were sent to me and yes they really offened me as a strong Christian woman, I would never want to marry my muslim man if he has these thoughts about me.
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...A8ية

I read once that a man abducted his daughter from Britain to Algeria, he said he's a muslim, would Islam support this?
May I also ask which country you are from?

Im sorry I ask so many questions but Im engaged to a muslim man and yes he wants to marry... soon! And i still have many unanswered questions left until I can take that step as well.

Shokran :)


:salam2: Yasmin as a non-muslim its natural to have fears of Islam because its something unknown to u. people have instinct which always tells them to fear what they dont know or is strange to them. I promise u that if u truely take the time to learn about Islam n STOP listening to anti-Islam media than u will c the beauty of it.
As women married to a true Muslim man u will get respect, understanding, and kind treatment from ur husband because thats what the Prophet(SAW) told men to do. Also women in the west are always victims of domestic violance n Islam does not allow any violence what so ever against women:blackhijab: Isnt that beauty n peace?
 

abou haytam

Junior Member
salam brother mabsoot;

can you explain to me why you delet my post???

I send those link to give her an idea. is there something wrong in those link.

salam
 

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
salam brother mabsoot;

can you explain to me why you delet my post???

I send those link to give her an idea. is there something wrong in those link.

salam

:salam2:

Brother A.Haytam,

I think this topic was being discussed on two threads at a time. So i think one of the moderators deleted one of the thread so that we may concentrate on single thread. Your links are still in this thread !!!

Wasalam
 

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
I read once that a man abducted his daughter from Britain to Algeria, he said he's a muslim, would Islam support this?

Shokran :)

:salam2:

Islam do not support such acts of abduction. Have you gone in detail of the incedent you mentioned so as to know the truth or the real story of it? Have you heard both side of the story? If yes, can you share that here with us (with correct references) so it will help us to understand better your worries. It will not be fair to give our opinions based on single sided views.

Hope you understand.

Regards
 

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
:salam2:

Islam do not support kidnapping or abduction. Have you gone in detail of the incedent you mentioned so as to know the truth or the real story of it? Have you heard both side of the story? If yes, can you share that here with us (with correct references) so it will help us to understand better your worries. We can not give our opinions based on single sided views.

Hope you understand.

Regards

Dont get me wrong, I dont judge all muslims after wht some doo in the name of Allah and the quran. I do respect you all and I am not here to make you look bad at all. I am just here to learn.
Yes I have looked more into the subject but as I said this is common, I read alot about this but it's still "rare" and I dont judge all muslims based on what a couple do.
To make the long story short it was a man who had lived in Britain for over 20 years and he was married to a British woman and the woman gave birth to a wonderful child called Nassima. In April last year he took her on holiday to Algeria and failed to return back. He had called her from there and said he is not coming back. Nassima is a British citizen with a British passport and was taken away all her rights as that. Something had happened between the husband and wife that made him take their child and leave. But as I said I dont judge all Algerians after what a couple do I just want to know if Islam supports this.
And if you read the links I have posted earlier I would really like a comments on them as well. I would hate it if my soon to be (im not sure anymoe though) husband looked at my that way.

Thanks ever so much.
 

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
hi i want to asking u way u want to marry muslim man if u not a muslim
i want to now way
and u said he is religios man i dont think he is if he is way he go to muslim sisters to help he kids islamic way i dont understand this
iam muslim man and i naver dreem to marry kafir women way soud i

becouse i can fine muslim women every wre so way shoud i marry others
subhana allah

i realy dont unsdersand way muslim men want to marry others

These are the comments I am scared of, why Im as a religious Christian person who believes in the same God as you, is looked on as a "lesser worth" person. That muslim women are better. Infront of God we are are equal, no?
I asked him once why he wants to marry me and his answer was, you are not like others, you are very clean, you have the biggest heart Ive ever seen and you make me laugh.
I was up alomst all day thinking about things like this person wrote to me. Im supposed to go back to him to London tomorrow already but I hesitate if he shares these opinions.
 

yasmineSwe

Junior Member
:salam2: Yasmin as a non-muslim its natural to have fears of Islam because its something unknown to u. people have instinct which always tells them to fear what they dont know or is strange to them. I promise u that if u truely take the time to learn about Islam n STOP listening to anti-Islam media than u will c the beauty of it.
As women married to a true Muslim man u will get respect, understanding, and kind treatment from ur husband because thats what the Prophet(SAW) told men to do. Also women in the west are always victims of domestic violance n Islam does not allow any violence what so ever against women:blackhijab: Isnt that beauty n peace?

Thank you! I do not listen to things Im sure arent true. I respect your religion with all my heart but theres a difference between rspecting and agreeing as well as understanding. Back home I have always been fighting for womens right in society, did you read the links I posted, if you have time it would be very nice of you if you could comment them because yes... I dont want my soon to be husband (Im doubting though I must say...:() to think of me that way.
The respect I get and the treatment I get is wonderful, I was down in North Africa just 2 weeks ago and I really loved the respect I got, you never get it from lets say a swedish man.
Thanks ever so much for taking the time to read my wodnerings :)
 

Proud2BeHumble

Seek Truth, Be Happy
:salam2:

As per Islamic rules he is allowed to marry you as you are from the "People of the Books" i.e. Taurat / Injeel There are many such examples in the western world. Basically Muslims prefers to have Muslim life partner for the sake of easiness of follwoing their religious life. But many may opt for "allowble" non-muslims for their own personal reasons.

In Islam marriage is an agreement. You are allowed to set your condition of marriage in this agreement. You can discuss and mutually agree any possible conditions before marriage. Make sure this marriage is not for obtaining passport etc..or for some other temporary gains.

Regarding that incident of the man who did not turn up from Algeria i agree that there are always social problems in any society. I guess that faimly life was not in good terms and he decided to run way to obtain a shortcuot solution. But he must have taken divorece as per the law.

I dont think Islam will support such "run away" cases. If you do proper "Nikah" and he is a responsible person i dont think he will run away even if he want to separate from you. He will have to seek divorce legally. Such actions depends upon individuals mind rather than the religion....

But if there is real understanind between you and him and you want to live with him all the way long, then it is still advisable to study Islam. Islam also do not allow any extra marital relationships as prevalent in western world.

Islam do not favour any injustice in any way but people may do...So be sure to discuss the issues which you may think are important....just to make his and your life easier....


Thanks and Regards
 

abou haytam

Junior Member
salam brotehr mabssot

please forgive me, the link i posted was not deleted ..it was in other thread. plz forgive me.

salam.

PS : thank you brother proud2behumble , jazak allah khayran for the clarification
 

abou haytam

Junior Member
I respect your religion with all my heart but theres a difference between rspecting and agreeing as well as understanding.

[It s the same thing for us as muslim, we respect your religion but we don t agree with your beleif and we don t understand yours two. (just think twice about thrinity) and you will find that none can understand it.

home I have always been fighting for womens right in society, did you read the links I posted, if you have time it would be very nice of you if you could comment them because yes... I dont want my soon to be husband (Im doubting though I must say...:() to think of me that way.

Islam recommand us to marry a muslim women first. we can marry a woman form the " people of the book" but with little conditions that offend or disapoited you in the link.

allah say in the Quoran:

“And do not marry Al-Mushrikaat (idolatresses) till they believe (worship Allaah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave”

[al-Baqarah 2:221]

The respect I get and the treatment I get is wonderful, I was down in North Africa just 2 weeks ago and I really loved the respect I got, you never get it from lets say a swedish man.
Thanks ever so much for taking the time to read my wodnerings :)

thank you yasmine , i am proud to be from morocco :)

the respect you get in north africa is the teaching of our prophet mohamed (saw)

It was narrated that Abu Shurayh al-‘Adawi said: I heard with my own two ears and I saw with my own two eyes when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke and said: “Whoever believes in Allaah and the Last Day, let him honour his neighbour; whoever believes in Allaah and the Last Day, let him honour his guest as he is entitled.” It was said, ‘What is his entitlement, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “[The best treatment] for one day and one night; and hospitality is for three days, and anything after that is charity bestowed upon him. And whoever believes in Allaah and the Last Day, let him, speak good words or else remain silent.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5560; Muslim, 69. This version was narrated by al-Bukhaari.


PS: I have one cousin marreid to a "christian" women, he don t mind a lot about islam. Everyone do what he want with his life. in islam everyone is responsible for his action the day of the judgement. But when you come to this website, it s our duty to tell you what is written in books and what is the thrut.
 
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