A question about conveying message to others

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2: brothers and sister
I want to try a method of transfering the message of Islam but im not sure if thats acceptable or not
I have been learning about Islam alot from the past couple of days and mashallah its so interesting and beneficial and I feel like I want to tell other so they can be guided but in this western world No one wants to talk about GOd or anything religious, they simply answer you Im not religious please dont talk to me about it or they think your an idiot if you talk about religion and this has happened cuz christianity doesn't answer their questions so over time they have just become atheist or think religion is a myth or something to be believe blindly in but Anyhow dialogues or conversation with them is impossible they will go like your boring us stop it, "STOP GIVING US A LECTURE" or stop hanging around with u and stuff, they are too busy in the luxuries of this world to even wonder wats going to happen cuz frankly everyone here thinks they got a long life ahead of themselves
Anywayz....So I was thinking is it possible that i can use indirect ways to transfer my message, I have used this way in the past to convey a msg but im not sure if this is deceiving and wrong.
what i do is i pretend to be talking on the phone while the people who i want to convey my msg to are with me or in the car with me, so usually when someone is on the phone everyone goes quiet and they are listenning So i pretend im talking to a person on the phone and Alhumdulilah im good at acting so i pretend that im in a conversation with another person and im conveying the information to him but indirectly im conveying the msg to those people around me who are listenning to me, so they listen, they get the message and some will ask me question about it later on.
Now im not saying i do this all the time ive doen this like once or twice where someone was unwilling to listen to my side of the story (uhum parents LOL) so i indirectly convey them wat my side of the story is but i have never used it to do dawaa
I have 2 fears, is this lying or cheating or not acceptable??
2nd im not sure if its whispers of shaitaan but there is something inside me that keeps on saying OH imagine how famous u will get, people will think ur so knowledgable I SERIOUSLY keep on trying to quiet this voice this is not my Intention, i want to bring someone to the right path and help them But idk why this voice is inside me im not sure if its shaitaan's whispers or my own something So please help me is this indirect way is going to convey msg or make ppl think oh im so knowledgable?
Im in a confusion I want to share but no one wants to listen
sorry if this is long, your opinion and help is appreciated.

 

[nyerekareem]

:salam2: brothers and sister
I want to try a method of transfering the message of Islam but im not sure if thats acceptable or not
I have been learning about Islam alot from the past couple of days and mashallah its so interesting and beneficial and I feel like I want to tell other so they can be guided but in this western world No one wants to talk about GOd or anything religious, they simply answer you Im not religious please dont talk to me about it or they think your an idiot if you talk about religion and this has happened cuz christianity doesn't answer their questions so over time they have just become atheist or think religion is a myth or something to be believe blindly in but Anyhow dialogues or conversation with them is impossible they will go like your boring us stop it, "STOP GIVING US A LECTURE" or stop hanging around with u and stuff, they are too busy in the luxuries of this world to even wonder wats going to happen cuz frankly everyone here thinks they got a long life ahead of themselves
Anywayz....So I was thinking is it possible that i can use indirect ways to transfer my message, I have used this way in the past to convey a msg but im not sure if this is deceiving and wrong.
what i do is i pretend to be talking on the phone while the people who i want to convey my msg to are with me or in the car with me, so usually when someone is on the phone everyone goes quiet and they are listenning So i pretend im talking to a person on the phone and Alhumdulilah im good at acting so i pretend that im in a conversation with another person and im conveying the information to him but indirectly im conveying the msg to those people around me who are listenning to me, so they listen, they get the message and some will ask me question about it later on.
Now im not saying i do this all the time ive doen this like once or twice where someone was unwilling to listen to my side of the story (uhum parents LOL) so i indirectly convey them wat my side of the story is but i have never used it to do dawaa
I have 2 fears, is this lying or cheating or not acceptable??
2nd im not sure if its whispers of shaitaan but there is something inside me that keeps on saying OH imagine how famous u will get, people will think ur so knowledgable I SERIOUSLY keep on trying to quiet this voice this is not my Intention, i want to bring someone to the right path and help them But idk why this voice is inside me im not sure if its shaitaan's whispers or my own something So please help me is this indirect way is going to convey msg or make ppl think oh im so knowledgable?
Im in a confusion I want to share but no one wants to listen
sorry if this is long, your opinion and help is appreciated.

:salam2:

brother, you do not have to be a shaykh or great scholar to give dawah to non-muslims and even dawah to non-practicing muslims. all you really need to know is the fundamentals of islam. those things pertaining to aqeedah.

oneness of ALLAH SWT
the prophets
the books of ALLAH SWT
His angels
the day of judgement
and belief in al qadar

with this, almost any muslim can do good dawah work. this is what i've learned from SHAYKH KHALID YASIN'S dawah course.

most importantly, living life as an upright muslim.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:
my brothers my muslim brothers ... your advice is valid but its not answering my question its not like i dont want to talk its that other people dont want to listen ... how am i suppose to talk or have a conversation or debate with someone that turns his/her back on you as soon as they listen the word God or Islam
Im not a shaykh or a big scholar i know that i just want to convey simple messages but if there is no one listenning then who is the person suppose to talk to, in countries like Canada where ppl of my age are only concerned about drinking, girls and future careers its hard to have them focus on religion
thats why i am wondering if an indirect way of conveying the msg would be better

 

[misbah ul haya]

asalam u alaikum iv been facing the same situation as im student of a college where ppl have no concern with religion so i am studying a book namely SAMAN E SAFR by MAULANA ABU A'ALA MAUDOODI in which he said that best way of conveying ur message is by ur on examplery behaviour i.e. when ppl see u they would say that u r amongst ibad ur rahman and rather than teaching ppl about salat,fasting and all that,u should try 2 build importance of God and religion in hearts of ppl like if u do anything with ur friends u go 2 logics which directly lead 2 islamic code and give them a simple point which would let them think about their lifestyles and donot give lectures at all as logics and scientific points impress ppl these days.ask ALLAH 2 help u in this matter and he vl open paths 4 u becoz ur intention is good.

 

[nyerekareem]

:salam2:
my brothers my muslim brothers ... your advice is valid but its not answering my question its not like i dont want to talk its that other people dont want to listen ... how am i suppose to talk or have a conversation or debate with someone that turns his/her back on you as soon as they listen the word God or Islam
Im not a shaykh or a big scholar i know that i just want to convey simple messages but if there is no one listenning then who is the person suppose to talk to, in countries like Canada where ppl of my age are only concerned about drinking, girls and future careers its hard to have them focus on religion
thats why i am wondering if an indirect way of conveying the msg would be better

:salam2:

brother, always remember that whoever ALLAH SWT guides can not be led astray and whosoever ALLAH SWT causes to misguide can never ever be brought back to the straight path without the will of ALLAH SWT.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Deat brother, Assalaamu Alaykum.

You heart is in the right place! But the best da`wa you can give is your example. Grow your faith and good deeds first and then people whom God wishes to guide will flock to you wondering what makes you so good, LOL.

:salam2: thank you all the brothers and sister for great answers
Brother the thing is that i go to a university with like 30-40 thousand people lol so yea its not easy to get noticed ... and in this western society it so happens that if your being nice and good ... 1st ppl assume that there is a reason mostly ur trying to pick up chicks lol since im a guy Trust me thats the reality, 2nd, they say u have nice manners just cuz and i have to admit there are alot of nice manners, intelligent intellectuals in the univ which do it without islamic religious background so i wud be considered amongs them and my name will be listed under nerds LOL (SEriously!!)
3rd never in a million years will someone ever say this change is cuz of religion cuz in their minds islam is suppose to teach voilence and if you go like no this is cuz of religion they will say that im forcing my ideologies on them and im lieing so its as easy as you think
cuz most of the ppl will ignore u ...
So thats why i thought indirect method might be appropriate here
so i asked
thx for all the replies thou

 

[misbah ul haya]

why dont u try by writing articles in uni magzine and u shud 1st preach those on whom u trust like nabi saw fisrt told about islam 2 his wife and best friend abu baker r.a

 

[Asja]

Assalamu Allleicoum dear brother.

Dear brother your only duty like a muslim is to advise people around you about Islam,Allah orders,Prophet Mohammed s.a.v.s Sunnah.
I love Allah,and I am obeying to Allah orders.Allah loves those who are obeying to His orders,and verily Allah does not love those who are not obeying to His orders,and Inhsallah Allah will Judge them.If Allah does not love those who are not obeying to His orders,than I also hate everything that Allah does not like.

You duty is to call on the right way dear brother,and if they do not listen then it is because Allah has closed thier hearts,eyes,souls and thier ears.

May Allah bless and guide all Muslims.Ameen.

Salam.

Your sister Asja

 

[Living Soul]

:salam2:

I would like to share my experience with you. I am Muslimah living in UK. In the beginning I did not use to offer prayers so people never noticed any religious thing in me. I could not ask any non muslim to turn to Islam as myself was guilty of abandoning Islamic obligations.But when I realized my mistake and Allah Subhanaho Wa Tala guided me I changed myself. I began wearing Jilbab and doing Niqab at the same time. I started offering prayers at both job place and Uni. People saw this apparent change in me and started questioning as why i am doing Niqab. I hold their queries as an opportunity of Da 'wa and Alhamdolillah I have been successful in conveying my msg. Let me tell you that when I went to college with jilbab and niqab I knew the security will check me so I was prepared for that. The lady who stopped me to verify my identity was the head of the student and she took me aside and askeed me if i could show my student ID to her. I immediately took out my student ID and removed my Niqab in front of her so that she could see me. She saw me and then said Oh i am sorry i have seen you in college but how come you start doing this face covering and changed dressing. she took me to a separate room and requested me to tell her about my change. Alhamdolillah I was considering myself highly blessed by Allah who guided me and provided this opportunity of Da'wa.. I answered the questions posed on me by that lady. I told her that Niqab is not obligatory but preferable so I chose it myself.


I have experienced greater opportunity of Da'wa with doing niqab then just in Hijab. Alhamdolillah. For you brother I would suggest to change your dressing with the Islamic one that is mostly worn by the Arabs. I dont know its name. and put islamic cap on your head. I am sure that InshAllah both muslims and non muslims alike will ask you, Why you wearing it? Then you can explain that you want to practise Islam thats why. In this way without adressing them directly you can talk on the things which seem to be interested. InshAllah Allah will open up the path for you.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:
thank you first of all for all the answer brothers/sister
A person said something about the newspaper that cud not happen cuz last year we got halal meat in univ after so much struggle and the Jew people made such a huge deal out of the that it only lasted a month it was a shame how the student council listens to jews more

:salam2:

I would like to share my experience with you. I am Muslimah living in UK. In the beginning I did not use to offer prayers so people never noticed any religious thing in me. I could not ask any non muslim to turn to Islam as myself was guilty of abandoning Islamic obligations.But when I realized my mistake and Allah Subhanaho Wa Tala guided me I changed myself. I began wearing Jilbab and doing Niqab at the same time. I started offering prayers at both job place and Uni. People saw this apparent change in me and started questioning as why i am doing Niqab. I hold their queries as an opportunity of Da 'wa and Alhamdolillah I have been successful in conveying my msg. Let me tell you that when I went to college with jilbab and niqab I knew the security will check me so I was prepared for that. The lady who stopped me to verify my identity was the head of the student and she took me aside and askeed me if i could show my student ID to her. I immediately took out my student ID and removed my Niqab in front of her so that she could see me. She saw me and then said Oh i am sorry i have seen you in college but how come you start doing this face covering and changed dressing. she took me to a separate room and requested me to tell her about my change. Alhamdolillah I was considering myself highly blessed by Allah who guided me and provided this opportunity of Da'wa.. I answered the questions posed on me by that lady. I told her that Niqab is not obligatory but preferable so I chose it myself.


I have experienced greater opportunity of Da'wa with doing niqab then just in Hijab. Alhamdolillah. For you brother I would suggest to change your dressing with the Islamic one that is mostly worn by the Arabs. I dont know its name. and put islamic cap on your head. I am sure that InshAllah both muslims and non muslims alike will ask you, Why you wearing it? Then you can explain that you want to practise Islam thats why. In this way without adressing them directly you can talk on the things which seem to be interested. InshAllah Allah will open up the path for you.

:salam2: sister
your idea is great but im a guy so cant hear a hijab lol 2nd there r huge amt of arabics in our univ so its not a big deal to see the dress alot of people know wats its wore for
Im just more curious about people answer the 2 questions i asked

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

Brother, sometime you can give direct and sometime you have to give an indirect advise/daawa. Fyi, not only non moslem even moslem may not appreciate when you give an honest advise for they going astray...so the best way in some situation is an indirect advise..you may not need to lie or pretend just portray true moslem image all the time in any situation..I give you an example. One day a moslem man knocked someone car which was parked at roadside. In normal circumstances, since no one seen the accident the person might just hit and run. Instead, this moslem man waited for hours for the owner to turn up. Finally, he placed his handphone number and a small message on the car windscreen and requested the owner to contact him for the cost to repair the car. The owner called this moslem man and asked, curious to know why did this moslem man did not run away instead? The moslem man explained he is a moslem and that he must to take responsibility for that accident etc etc. The owner of this car happen to be a non moslem..and now he had embraced Islam just because a saw a good example of a good moslem man. This may not answer to your question but hope it helps a little..Salam.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Brother, sometime you can give direct and sometime you have to give an indirect advise/daawa. Fyi, not only non moslem even moslem may not appreciate when you give an honest advise for they going astray...so the best way in some situation is an indirect advise..you may not need to lie or pretend just portray true moslem image all the time in any situation..I give you an example. One day a moslem man knocked someone car which was parked at roadside. In normal circumstances, since no one seen the accident the person might just hit and run. Instead, this moslem man waited for hours for the owner to turn up. Finally, he placed his handphone number and a small message on the car windscreen and requested the owner to contact him for the cost to repair the car. The owner called this moslem man and asked, curious to know why did this moslem man did not run away instead? The moslem man explained he is a moslem and that he must to take responsibility for that accident etc etc. The owner of this car happen to be a non moslem..and now he had embraced Islam just because a saw a good example of a good moslem man. This may not answer to your question but hope it helps a little..Salam.

:salam2: brother
I really admirred your nice and it was really nice thank you

 

[al-fajr]

Dawah tables are good, (sometimes)

A lot of people simply walk past eyeing it suspiciously and the ones that do come are usually so shifty in their approach, as if they don't want to be seen there ..like a flash of lightening grab a book, mutter 'thanks' and they look left an right *cough* straigten up, march off in a highly dignified manner.

 

[Rashadi]

:salam2: brothers and sister
I want to try a method of transfering the message of Islam but im not sure if thats acceptable or not
I have been learning about Islam alot from the past couple of days and mashallah its so interesting and beneficial and I feel like I want to tell other so they can be guided but in this western world No one wants to talk about GOd or anything religious, they simply answer you Im not religious please dont talk to me about it or they think your an idiot if you talk about religion and this has happened cuz christianity doesn't answer their questions so over time they have just become atheist or think religion is a myth or something to be believe blindly in but Anyhow dialogues or conversation with them is impossible they will go like your boring us stop it, "STOP GIVING US A LECTURE" or stop hanging around with u and stuff, they are too busy in the luxuries of this world to even wonder wats going to happen cuz frankly everyone here thinks they got a long life ahead of themselves
Anywayz....So I was thinking is it possible that i can use indirect ways to transfer my message, I have used this way in the past to convey a msg but im not sure if this is deceiving and wrong.
what i do is i pretend to be talking on the phone while the people who i want to convey my msg to are with me or in the car with me, so usually when someone is on the phone everyone goes quiet and they are listenning So i pretend im talking to a person on the phone and Alhumdulilah im good at acting so i pretend that im in a conversation with another person and im conveying the information to him but indirectly im conveying the msg to those people around me who are listenning to me, so they listen, they get the message and some will ask me question about it later on.
Now im not saying i do this all the time ive doen this like once or twice where someone was unwilling to listen to my side of the story (uhum parents LOL) so i indirectly convey them wat my side of the story is but i have never used it to do dawaa
I have 2 fears, is this lying or cheating or not acceptable??
2nd im not sure if its whispers of shaitaan but there is something inside me that keeps on saying OH imagine how famous u will get, people will think ur so knowledgable I SERIOUSLY keep on trying to quiet this voice this is not my Intention, i want to bring someone to the right path and help them But idk why this voice is inside me im not sure if its shaitaan's whispers or my own something So please help me is this indirect way is going to convey msg or make ppl think oh im so knowledgable?
Im in a confusion I want to share but no one wants to listen
sorry if this is long, your opinion and help is appreciated.

Salaam Aleykom,

Although your intentions are sincere, it would still fall under "lying" or deception. A perfect example are Christian missionaries and their deceptions and sneak tactics they use in order to try to gain converts. We have be blessed with the correct deen and Alhamdulillah, we do not have to lower ourself to the level of what others have to out of desperation. The first advice I would give you is of course honesty. Be honest and tell the truth. If you don't know something, do not state something unless you know for sure. Sekk the answers to the questions you may not know the answer to. Another good way of giving dawah is your own example. We can set an example because we have a complete way of life, and, if we are doing our part, others will witness it. I remember how no one would talk to me about religion when I was a Christian. People simply didn't care for it much. After I became a Muslim, and after I started practicing this beautiful deen, there is a huge difference. I do not have to bother people, shove my religion down their throats or use deception but people come asking the questions and this opens up the room for dawah.

Another thing you can do about the phone thing is have someone for real talk to you on the phone. Like a friend or someone you know and they'll be listening then. But the whole idea of just pretending I personally think it falls under lying still or dishonesty. Because i read several hadiths about lying even little things like there was a lady who wanted to get her child to cooperate and she had a date in her hand and try to get her child to come. The Prophet (pbuh) saw that and asked her what it was she was going to give the child and she told him the date and said "good or else you be lying". Imagine, Subhan Allah, if being dishonest with little kids or even animals is wrong, imagine with other humans and especially when it comes to our deen. In Christianity, these kind of stuff are acceptable. I didn't care much when i was a Christian because even things that were considered "sins" we still did without a problem or care. But that is not the case with Islam. Islam is the truth and we don't have to lower ourselves like that. The Quran states clearly many times "if Allah so willed, He could have guided all of mankind, but will compel people to have faith?" and this is exactly true.

If they are arrogant, don't want to hear it and have no interest after you tried to tell them about Islam, leave them to be. Those who are searching will listen to you and want to learn. The first step is honesty and your own good conduct. I hope you didn't get offended by me because I love you for the sake of Allah (swt) but I just want to give you my advice. I thought of similar things before but then felt hypocritical when I know that this is exactly what missionaries do but even worse than that.

Waleykom Salaam.