ADAM'S LANGUAGE

[Hard Rock Moslem]

Quran, Surah Ta-Ha, verses 116 - 117.
116. And (remember) when We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves to Adam." They prostrated (all) except Iblis (Satan), who refused.
117. Then We said: "O Adam! Verily, this is an enemy to you and to your wife. So let him not get you both out of Paradise, so that you be distressed in misery.

Salam to you my brothers and sisters in Islam. I just need your opinion, both Prophet Adam and Hawwa (Eve) (peace be upon them both) were raised in heaven, right? Allah spoke with Adam and Hawwa (peace be upon them) in Arabic because language of the heaven is Arabic? Am I right? So can I say Adam and Hawwa (peace be upon them) are Arabs? Pls answer me though this may sound funny. This things disturbing my mind for few days as such I can find any source.


Bro. Hard Rock Moslem
Malaysia.

 

[Almeftah]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

I'm not sure, but i know that Prophet Ishmael (Or a son of his named Adnan) is the father of all arabs, And that Arabic language didnt exist before.

 

[allah is with me]

Quran, Surah Ta-Ha, verses 116 - 117.
116. And (remember) when We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves to Adam." They prostrated (all) except Iblis (Satan), who refused.
117. Then We said: "O Adam! Verily, this is an enemy to you and to your wife. So let him not get you both out of Paradise, so that you be distressed in misery.

Salam to you my brothers and sisters in Islam. I just need your opinion, both Prophet Adam and Hawwa (Eve) (peace be upon them both) were raised in heaven, right? Allah spoke with Adam and Hawwa (peace be upon them) in Arabic because language of the heaven is Arabic? Am I right? So can I say Adam and Hawwa (peace be upon them) are Arabs? Pls answer me though this may sound funny. This things disturbing my mind for few days as such I can find any source.


Bro. Hard Rock Moslem
Malaysia.

i dont know that , was he an arab or an indian ... when i first visited india many foolish people said me that adam (a.s) .. was an indian... but i quite dont believe it .. because they are many blind people in india.....well, allah says that we should not bow infront of anyone . except allah right??? then why did allah said his angels to bow infront of adam(a.s)

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

i dont know that , was he an arab or an indian ... when i first visited india many foolish people said me that adam (a.s) .. was an indian... but i quite dont believe it ..)

I'm not asking what language Adam spoke when he was sent to the earth. If he spoke in Arabic while in heaven (because the language in heaven is Arabic...that's what our sheikh being saying), therefore he should be an Arab?

well, allah says that we should not bow infront of anyone . except allah right??? then why did allah said his angels to bow infront of adam(a.s)

Let's not touch this issue first. This is another issue. Thank you anyway for responding.

 

[allah is with me]

I'm not asking what language Adam spoke when he was sent to the earth. If he spoke in Arabic while in heaven (because the language in heaven is Arabic...that's what our sheikh being saying), therefore he should be an Arab?



Let's not touch this issue first. This is another issue. Thank you anyway for responding.

thank you for replying this message so politely :blackhijab:, dear brother... first of all ; i did not tell you which language he spoke but i said bout where he took birth...i was not knowing where he took birth , so i could not give you a proper defination....plz dont misunderstand me

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

No no, I hope you did not misunderstand me. The reason I do not want to divert from original question because I'm afraid some other brothers and sisters might started engaging in a debate which is out of topic here (you may have notice this in other threads). I'm sorry if my reply to you was rude...I really did not mean it. So sorry.

 

[a_muslimah86]

:salam2:

Whether or not they spoke Arabic...it does not make them "Arab"..to be an Arab you have to have a certain lineage..and Arabic did not show up until many many many many generations after Adam & Hawwa...however..historians claim that Sayidina Adam (as) spoke a form of a Syriac language which died due to its branching out into different languages..which include the semitic languages we know (i.e. Aramaic..Hebrew..and Arabic)

In case you're interested though..the first person to speak Arabic was..Ya'arub bin Qahtan...

do you even see the connection between the name Ya'arub & the word Arabic?

Ya'arub = 'Arub = Arab ???

Anyway..Ya'arub spoke a specific dialect of Arabic..which was reformed and changed from the language of 'Aad & Thamud who according to researchers spoke an even older version of Arabic...which contradicts the common belief that Sayidina Ismae'el was the *first* to speak Arabic..as in truth..he (as) *learned* it from the people of Jurhum (descendants of Ya'arub..according to what I remember)..and this is according to the hadith in Sahih Bukhari:

The House (i.e. Kaba) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kada'. They landed in the lower part of Mecca where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, 'This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.' They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water)." The Prophet added, "Ishmael's mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, 'Do you allow us to stay with you?" She replied, 'Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.' They agreed to that." The Prophet further said, "Ishmael's mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them. [Book 55/Hadith 583] (if you want the full version of the hadith which is times longer than this for further reference..please tell me..I can find it for you easily)

It is important to mention..that even though Sayidina Ismae'el (as) spoke the language of his father Sayidina Ibrahim (as) (who spoke Aramaic I think?..please correct me if I'm wrong)..and he only *learned* Arabic..Ya'arub & Ismae'el descend from the same lineage (that of Sam son of Sayidina Nooh (as))..

It's just that Ya'arub's descendants are considered (by modern day Arabs and historians) to be the "original Arabs" and the descendants of Sayidina Ismae'el are considered to be the "assimilated Arabs"..and one of the descendants of Sayidina Ismae'el (as) is of course..*Adnan*..a greatgrandfather of Rasulullah (saaws)

So essentially you can say..that "Arab identity" (for lack of a better description) did not show up until Ya'arub bin Qahtan..who was born many generations after Sayidina Adam (as)..which pretty much indicates that Sayidina Adam was NOT an Arab

I am sorry if I made this lengthy...but the topic of the Arabic language and Arabic lineage needs thorough explaining because there are so many misconceptions about it..and you have to go very far back in history to be able to make sense with the answer you give..which I hope I did right now akhi..pardon me if I did not give you the answer you sought

 

[Nurain]

Salam Akhi,

Love the Arabs for three reasons; because I Muhammad (Allah's apostle) am an Arab, the Holy Qur'an was revealed in Arabic and the language of Jannah will be Arabic.

Related by Al Haakim in his book Al Mustadrak (Vol 4, p 87). The great Hadith scholar Abu Haatim in his book Jarh Wa Ta'deel, 'The Invalidation and Acceptance of Transmitters of Hadith' (Vol 3, p 359), said this Hadith is false.

In Islam we love people if they are mindful of their duties to Allaah. We do not show love to people because of their race, language, tribe, nationality or wealth...

... As for the language of Jannah, Allaah knows best what it shall be, however Allaah shall say "Asalamu alaykum" to the believers after admitting them into His paradise, and this is the explanation to Allaah's words:

"It will be said to them 'Salaamun' (peace be upon you) a word from the Lord Allaah, most merciful." (36:58) - Tafsir Ibn Kathir

This is what I got from a fabricated hadith text. Allaah knows best.

 

[du'a]

in regards to the bowing issue, this was an accecptable form of greeting of those times. it is only later on when Allah prohibited this form of greeting

 

[Tabassum07]

Is there any idea how long ago in years Adam (peace be upon him) lived on earth? Ten thousand years? More than that? Less?

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

JazakhAllah khair for all your reply.

 

[Tabassum07]

Jazakallah khair 6000 years isn't that long ago. I used to imagine first of mankind to have been millions of years ago. How come, when Noah's arc was discovered, scientists estimated its age to be 100,000 years ago?

But then again, this is all hypothetical. Allah knows best.