manchesterar
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Sunnah or Fard?
Beards in Islam
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it is fard and and shaving the beard is haram as well.
Ruling on shaving the beard
What is the ruling on shaving the beard or removing part of it?
Praise be to Allaah.
Shaving the beard is haraam because of the saheeh ahaadeeth that clearly state this, and because of the general application of texts that forbid resembling the kuffaar. One of these reports is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Be different from the mushrikeen: let your beards grow and trim your moustaches.” According to another report: “Trim your moustaches and let your beards grow.” There are other hadeeth which convey the same meaning, which is to leave the beard as it is and let it grow long, without shaving, plucking or cutting any part of it. Ibn Hazm reported that there was scholarly consensus that it is an obligation (fard) to trim the moustache and let the beard grow. He quoted a number of ahaadeeth as evidence, including the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) quoted above, and the hadeeth of Zayd ibn Arqam in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does not remove any of his moustache is not one of us.” (Classed as saheeh by al-Tirmidhi). Ibn Hazm said in al-Furoo’: “This is the way of our colleagues [i.e., the Hanbalis].”
Is it haraam (to shave it)? Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The Qur’aan, Sunnah and ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus) all indicate that we must differ from the kuffaar in all aspects and not imitate them, because imitating them on the outside will make us imitate them in their bad deeds and habits, and even in beliefs, which will result in befriending them in our hearts, just as loving them in our hearts will lead to imitating them on the outside. Al-Tirmidhi reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “He is not one of us who imitates people other than us. Do not imitate the Jews and Christians.” According to another version: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad) ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab rejected the testimony of the person who plucked his beard. Imaam Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed: “It is forbidden to shave the beard, and no one does this except men who are effeminate” i.e., those who imitate women. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had a thick beard (reported by Muslim from Jaabir). It is not permitted to remove any part of the beard because of the general meaning of the texts which forbid doing so.
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As Salaamu Alaikum, if it is fard y r the majority of ME men sporting only moustache? Iraqi, Qatari, Saudi, what's going on with that?
:salam2:
well the answer is very simple. we must follow the Prophet salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam and the Pious Predecessors and not people in Irak, Qatar or wherever.
because if we follow this logic, we could also say that many women all over the islamic world dont have hijab, or that many people hear music.
the point is we must follow what coran and sunna say, and by the way, the more u follow the right way, the more u feel like a stranger, and we have many Hadeeths about the reward for the strangers.
i hope it was clear, jazakumullahu khayran.
salam
well the answer is very simple. we must follow the Prophet salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam and the Pious Predecessors and not people in Irak, Qatar or wherever.
because if we follow this logic, we could also say that many women all over the islamic world dont have hijab, or that many people hear music.
the point is we must follow what coran and sunna say, and by the way, the more u follow the right way, the more u feel like a stranger, and we have many Hadeeths about the reward for the strangers.
i hope it was clear, jazakumullahu khayran.
salam
mohammed nasser
Junior Member
beard is something specialists in Islam say various talks about.
some say this is fard , some say it is sunna and some say it was the habit followed in the arabia in the age of the prophet so it is something more related to the environment than worshipping
you can take any of these opinions
some say this is fard , some say it is sunna and some say it was the habit followed in the arabia in the age of the prophet so it is something more related to the environment than worshipping
you can take any of these opinions
Answer from my favorite sheikh, Yusuf Estes
http://www.youtubeislam.com/video/408/Having-a-beard
But personally I think the beard has caught attention in the mainstream media due to the popularity of rocker band having long beard. When I first saw a bearded brother the first thing come to my mind was. "that guy is cool, he's like Serj Tankian from System of Down"
You can be cool and bearded at the same time
Little info:
Serj Tankian is from Lebanon so there is a high possibility he is a muslim, Don't know about whether he is practicing or not.
nori suja'i
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Assalamualaikum brothers & sisters. To my knowledge it is sunaat as Muslim men following the footsteps of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Rasulullah SAW. The law in Islam including halal, haraam, sunaat, markroh, haruus & wajeb. For halal means allowed (compalsory)- if we act or do, we'll get reward but if we leave it no sin or reward.
Haraam means forbidden - if we leave if we'll get reward but if we do it, we'll get sin.
Sunaat means if we do it we'll get reward but if we leave it, its alright.
Markroh means if we do it or not, we get nothing (but markroh sometimes can become haraam if there's a feeling of doubtful).
Haruus means if we do it we'll get reward (not compalsory) but if we leave it no reward or sin for example like helping someone in dificulties.
For wajeb as we know its compalsory - if we do it we'll get reward but if we leave it we'll get sin.
These are all I learned from my Uztazs & Uztazahs (may Allah bless them all insyaAllah) during my school time. Among them was the late Uztaz Syed Umar (may Allah bless & forgive him insyaAllah).
Haraam means forbidden - if we leave if we'll get reward but if we do it, we'll get sin.
Sunaat means if we do it we'll get reward but if we leave it, its alright.
Markroh means if we do it or not, we get nothing (but markroh sometimes can become haraam if there's a feeling of doubtful).
Haruus means if we do it we'll get reward (not compalsory) but if we leave it no reward or sin for example like helping someone in dificulties.
For wajeb as we know its compalsory - if we do it we'll get reward but if we leave it we'll get sin.
These are all I learned from my Uztazs & Uztazahs (may Allah bless them all insyaAllah) during my school time. Among them was the late Uztaz Syed Umar (may Allah bless & forgive him insyaAllah).
Noor_Al-Ain
SolideresS Of Allah
Answer from my favorite sheikh, Yusuf Estes
http://www.youtubeislam.com/video/408/Having-a-beard
But personally I think the beard has caught attention in the mainstream media due to the popularity of rocker band having long beard. When I first saw a bearded brother the first thing come to my mind was. "that guy is cool, he's like Serj Tankian from System of Down"
You can be cool and bearded at the same time
Little info:
Serj Tankian is from Lebanon so there is a high possibility he is a muslim, Don't know about whether he is practicing or not.
Urghhhhhhhhh.........!!!! Serj Tankian is NOT a Muslim...!!!! Please don't ask me for any evidence 2 support my statement because it's a blatantly, obvious fact...!!!
:astag: I used 2 Be a Big Fan of System Of A Down a few years ago
astag: Teenage Phases... No excuse really 4 'em...) And i've heard their NOISE... No, nothing Muslim about it....Off topic...? Yes, but just needed 2 get this *ahem*Thing cleared,
Don't want anyone else getting misleaded.
Sorry
:salam2:
:salam2: brother, well you said some say who are these some? what i know and i can get proof of is that all the big scolars of Islam have said that it's Harram to shave i.e imam Malik, Abu hanifa, abu hanbal, shafii , and also imam ibn taimya , and also sheikh Al albani, and alothiamin who just passed away couple years ago.
Definition
The Arabic word for beard is lihyah. It derives from lahy (jaw) and lahyan (the two jaws). Thus, a beard is defined as the hair that grows on the cheeks and jaws- [Al-Qamus ul-Muhit by al-Fayruzabadi, and Lisan ul-Arab by Ibn Manzur]. It includes the hair that grows on the temples, underneath the lower lip, the hair of the chin, and the hair that grows on the lower side of the jaws.
Ruling
Growing the beard is wajib (mandatory) for all males who are capable of doing so. As will be presented below, there is ample evidence for this in the Sunnah, and it is the unanimous opinion of the ‘ulama’ of Islam.
Position of the Scholars
All the ‘ulama’ (scholars) of as-Salaf us-Salih (the Righteous early Muslims),
including the Four Imams, agree that shaving the beard is haram
(prohibited). They consider shaving it an impermissible mutilation, as has
been reported from Umar Bin Abdul Aziz-[At-Tarikh by Ibn Asakir]. They
considered the man who shaved his beard effeminate. Many of them would not accept his testimony or allow him to lead the prayers.
THE HANAFIS
According to the Hanafis:
“It is prohibited for a man to cut his beard ... as for
cutting it shorter than a fist-length - as is done by
some people from the west and by the effeminate men
- no one permits this. And as for shaving it completely,
it is the doing of the Indian Jews and the Persian
Magians” [Persian Magians-Followers of an old religion, possibly
the same as the "Zoroastrians"] [Ad-Durr ul-Mukhtar].
Ibn-Abidayn said:
“It is prohibited for a man to cut his beard.” (Radd
ul-Muhtar [2:418])
THE MALIKIS
According to the Malikis:
“Shaving the beard is prohibited, as is cutting it if it causes a (clear) mutilation. But if it becomes oversized, and if cutting it would not appear as a mutilation, then it may be cut; but that would be disliked and contrary to that which is better.” [Sharh ur-Risalah by Abu al-Hasan, and the commentary on it by al-Adwi]
Al-`Adwi said:
“It has been reported from Malik that he hated shaving anything under the jaws, until he said, ‘It is from the doing of the Magians.’ And it is prohibited to remove the hair of the beard.” [Sharh ur-Risalah by Abu al-Hasan, and the commentary on it by al-Adwi (2:411)]
Ibn Abd al-Barr said:
“It is prohibited to shave the beard, and it is not done except by effeminate men.”[At-Tamhid]
THE SHAFI’IS
As for the Shafi’is, al-Imam ash-Shafi’i has expressed that it is prohibited to
shave the beard [al-Umm]. Also, al-Athru’i said, “The correct position is that it
is prohibited to totally shave the beard without a (medical) problem with it.”
[Sharh ul-Ubab].
THE HANBALIS
The Hanbali's agree without exception that it is prohibited to shave the beard
[Al-Insaf, Sharh ul-Muntaha, etc.].
Ibn Taymiyyah stated:
“It is prohibited to shave the beard.” [Al-Ikhtiyarat
ul-Ilmiyyah (p.6)]
As-Saffarini said:
“It is agreed in our mathhab that it is prohibited to shave the beard.” [Ghitha ul-Albab (1:376)].
IBN HAZM
Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi said:
“All of the scholars agree that shaving the beard is a form of mutilation, and is prohibited.” [Maratib ul-Ijma' (p.157), and al-Muhalla (2:189)]
IBN TAYMIYYAH
Shaykh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said:
“Because of the authentic hadiths, it is prohibited to shave the beard, and no one has ever permitted it.”
CONTEMPORARY SCHOLARS
The great scholars of our time have expressed that it is prohibited to shave the beard or cut it short. Among those are Ali Mahfuz, Muhammad Nasir ud-Din al-Albani, Abd ul-Aziz Bin Baz, al-Kandahlawi, Abu Bakr al-Jaza’iri, Ismail al-Ansari, and many others.
Extent of the Beard
The commands of the Prophet clearly indicate that the beard should be completely spared. Furthermore, the Prophet and his companions had full and large beards.
There are no authentic reports indicating that the Prophet trimmed his
beard. However, there are authentic reports from a number of the sahabah -
particularly, Ibn-Umar, Abu Hurayrah, and Ibn-Abbas (may Allah be pleased with
them all), indicating that they used to cut what extended beyond a fist-length.
There are similar reports as well from a number of the salaf such as Ibrahim
an-Nakhi, Malik, and Ahmad. [Several such authentic reports are compiled by
al-Albani in ad-Da’ifah (following hadith no. 2355)]
When ‘Abdullah bin Umar (may Allah be pleased with them both), went for Hajj or Umrah, he used to hold his beard with his fist and cut whatever extended
beyond his fist. [Al-Bukhari]
Thus, the general command of sparing the beard should be restricted to the
understanding and practice of the sahabah, and its length below the chin should not exceed a man's fist.
may Allah guide us all to be among those follow the sunna and neglect or bellittle any of it. ameen
manchesterar
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So everytime we shave we are creating a sin?
:salam2:
Yes every time one shave he is doing sin and if you shave and look in mirror and say i am looking good than its double sin
One Shaving
Secondly liking your face's resembles to Kufars than that of the Holy Prophet Peace Be Upon Him.
Yes every time one shave he is doing sin and if you shave and look in mirror and say i am looking good than its double sin
One Shaving
Secondly liking your face's resembles to Kufars than that of the Holy Prophet Peace Be Upon Him.
mohammed nasser
Junior Member
As-salaamu `alaykum.
And we don't agree with you; you say it is sunnah, but don't mention a single proof for it. Alhamdulillaah, those who know it is fard know the proofs for them, and provided them for us!
was-salaam
manchesterar
New Member
Please can you provide some back up as I would like both points of view.
the reasoning behind not shaving the beard is to differentiate the Muslims from the Mushrikeens? I was always thought that a beard was a sunnah. Are we to follow everything that the Prophet Muhammad has done. This may sound controversial but i always pondered upon the notion of accessibility. During the Prophet Muhammad's (SAWS) there were not forks or spoons. Are we to maintain a lifestyle of eating with our bare hands or should with use these utensils?
manchesterar
New Member
Is Sunnah an option or compulsory?
Assalam O Alaikum,
Brother, whether beared is sunnah or fard i don't know. Scholars differs on this issue but i have it because my beloved Prophet(pbuh) had it. It's not just us who love Him but He is the most beloved to Allah(swt) and Allah(swt) certainly wouldn't allow something which He don't like to grow on the face of someone who is the most dear to Him.
I used to ask same question but believe me just growing a beared will stop you commiting so many sins, you will always be on guard because then you will not only be defending yourself but you will be defending ISLAM.
Wassalam