Brittish Army deploys new weapon in Afghanistan

oumyaquine

Fière de ma religion
British Army deploys new weapon based on mass-killing technology
Parliament not told, minister says


By John Byrne

Global Research, August 26, 2007
Raw Story


A new 'super-weapon' being supplied to British soldiers in Afghanistan employs technology based on the "thermobaric" principle which uses heat and pressure to kill people targeted across a wide air by sucking the air out of lungs and rupturing internal organs.

The so-called "enhanced blast" weapon uses similar technology used in the US "bunker busting" bombs and the devastating bombs dropped by the Russians to destroy the Chechen capital, Grozny.

Such weapons are brutally effective because they first disperse a gas or chemical agent which is lit at a second stage, allowing the blast to fill the spaces of a building or the crevices of a cave. When the US military deployed a version of these weapons in 2005, DefenseTech wrote an article titled, "Marines Quiet About Brutal New Weapon."

According to the US Defense Intelligence Agency, which released a study on thermobaric weapons in 1993, "The [blast] kill mechanism against living targets is unique--and unpleasant.... What kills is the pressure wave, and more importantly, the subsequent rarefaction [vacuum], which ruptures the lungs. If the fuel deflagrates but does not detonate, victims will be severely burned and will probably also inhale the burning fuel. Since the most common FAE fuels, ethylene oxide and propylene oxide, are highly toxic, undetonated FAE should prove as lethal to personnel caught within the cloud as most chemical agents."

A second DIA study said, "shock and pressure waves cause minimal damage to brain tissue... it is possible that victims of FAEs are not rendered unconscious by the blast, but instead suffer for several seconds or minutes while they suffocate."

"The effect of an FAE explosion within confined spaces is immense," said a CIA study of the weapons. "Those near the ignition point are obliterated. Those at the fringe are likely to suffer many internal, and thus invisible injuries, including burst eardrums and crushed inner ear organs, severe concussions, ruptured lungs and internal organs, and possibly blindness."

British defense officials told the UK Guardian that British bombs were "different."

"They are optimized to create blast [rather than heat]", one said, speaking on the standard condition of anonymity in Britain. The official added that it would be misleading to call them "thermobaric."

Officials told the Guardian the new weapon was classified as a soldier launched "light anti-structure munition" and that the bombs would be more effective because "even when they hit the damage is limited to a confined area."

"The continuing issue of civilian casualties in Afghanistan has enormous importance in the battle for hearts and minds," said Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell in the article. "If these weapons contribute to the deaths of civilians then a primary purpose of the British deployment is going to be made yet more difficult."

According to Campbell, the deployment of the weapons was not announced to Parliament.



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lions_den1

Ahle Sunnah wal Jama
Peace?

This is the charactor of kuffar when they go in war with Muslims. From the time of the messenger of Allah (pbuh) and in fact before then we have found that kuffar have always been the first to betray thier covernants with the Muslims and they kill women and children indescriminatly.

What happens when you give a weapon to a 19/ 20 yr old kid, in a war zone and he does not belive in Allah (swt) and the Last Day, nor does he believe that he will ever be bought alive to be held accountable for his actions?

What do you think he will do? Have fun. And his understanding of fun is shooting and killing innocent people and blowing up mosques, raiding homes, abusing women and children ect.

On a military level, does thier bombs that they drop distinguish between men, women, children, sunni, shia, innocent, civilian? No they don't!!!

In fact there were even times when Americans have dropped bombs on the British soilders.

And Muslim lands have become the testing ground for new chemical and biological weapons.

How can we forget the use of the banned White Phosphorus- that melts the skin upon contact- that was dropped upon Falluja? Or the Cluster Bombs that were dropped in Afghanistan??

This is something for muslims and non- muslims alike to think about...
 

muharram23

New Member
Staff member
This is the charactor of kuffar when they go in war with Muslims. From the time of the messenger of Allah (pbuh) and in fact before then we have found that kuffar have always been the first to betray thier covernants with the Muslims and they kill women and children indescriminatly.

What happens when you give a weapon to a 19/ 20 yr old kid, in a war zone and he does not belive in Allah (swt) and the Last Day, nor does he believe that he will ever be bought alive to be held accountable for his actions?

What do you think he will do? Have fun. And his understanding of fun is shooting and killing innocent people and blowing up mosques, raiding homes, abusing women and children ect.

On a military level, does thier bombs that they drop distinguish between men, women, children, sunni, shia, innocent, civilian? No they don't!!!

In fact there were even times when Americans have dropped bombs on the British soilders.

And Muslim lands have become the testing ground for new chemical and biological weapons.

How can we forget the use of the banned White Phosphorus- that melts the skin upon contact- that was dropped upon Falluja? Or the Cluster Bombs that were dropped in Afghanistan??

This is something for muslims and non- muslims alike to think about...


Allah s.v a wont change the situation of this ummah until we change ourselves. It is said what is happening to us muslims, but we need to return to Quran and sunnah that is where our pride is and honor not in nationalism and traditionalism.

Assalamu alaykum
 

Ahmed ibn Ibrahim

alhamdulilah
Thermobarbaric!

Why don't these people just set up huge concentration camps across their territories, employ a few hundred professional-murderers (aka military personel) to capture ignorant/innocent/helpless locals and torture them! Y'know, rip the flesh from their bodies, their fingernails, expose them to attack-dogs, humiliation practices...

OH WAIT, THEY ALREADY DO THAT! Whoops.

Seriously, why don't these disgusting human beings just use their nukes and get this over with! We're not afraid of what's to come after this life... maybe they are??

They certainly should be.
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
I think this article should also serve as a slap for all the Muslims out their who are not developing new technologies to defend themselves with, or attack back with.

The Muslims had the most advanced scientists for about a 1000 years! The most hygienic hospitals, best physicians etc.
 

oumyaquine

Fière de ma religion
:salam2: I didn't wanted to annoy anyone with this article, I was soooooooo shocked when reading, I just simple cannot understand why Human beings can act this way. I ..... just simply cannot conceive it. I lived in Argentina during the military period. It was awfull for many many people and very cruel(oh how much so cruel!)But this kind of weapon, don't know.... even against my worst ennemy!!!!!!!:shymuslima1: :shymuslima1: :shymuslima1:
 

lions_den1

Ahle Sunnah wal Jama
What about Allah?

:salam2:

Firstly as Muslims should understand that Allah has commanded us to fight (against oppression) and to put our trust in Allah (swt) Who is our Maula (Protector, Helper)- of the believers and the kuffar (disbelievers) have no helpers.

"And fight them (the disbelievers) until there is no more fithna (tumult or oppression) and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease (thier oppression), verily Allah does See all that they do.
If they refuse be sure that Allah is your Maula (Protector)- the Best to Protect and the Best to Help."

(Surah Anfal 8: 39-40)


And the issue of Jihad is not restricted/ limited by weapons. So we should not feel that we are inferior because we have a weapon that the kuffar can never own...

The messenger of Allah said "The dua' (suplication) is the weapon of the believers" (Bukhari)

How many times has Allah (swt) given victroy to the believers, who put thier trust in Allah (swt) and made dua' to Him? and then fought with all thier effort, reguradless of what weapons they had, or the number of the enemy.

From the Quran we have the example Talut (a muslim king) who was facing the mighty army of Goliath (Jaloot)-

Allah says in Surah Baqarah "When they crossed the river he (Talut) and the believers with him- they said: "This day we cannot cope with Goliath and his forces." But those who were convinced that they will meet Allah said: "How often, by Allah's Will, has a smaller force vanquished a bigger one? Allah is with those who steadfastly persevere." (Surah Baqarah 2:249)

But not only did they put thier trust in Allah (swt), they made dua to Him, and they never turned thier backs from fighting!!

"When they advanced to meet Goliath and his forces they prayed: "Our Lord! pour out constancy on us and make our steps firm; help us against those that reject faith." (Surah Baqarah 2:250)

And from the Sunnah we have the example of the messenger of Allah (pbuh) who was making dua' to Allah on the Day of Badr so much with his arms raised that his shawl fell of his blessed shoulders-

"Oh Allah! If You allow this small band of believers (sahabah) to be defeated today- none will worship You after this day" (Bukhari)

Until Abu Bakr was grieved by the dua' of the prophet and he asked him to stop- saying Allah (swt) will answer your prayer.

The Quraysh outnumbered the muslims over 3-1 ratio. 1000 full armed and equipped strong men against about 313 men with no armour, a few swords and one horse!

And they did not compalin about weakness or say we need to improve our selves before we meet the Quraysh rather they all fought will all thier might and Allah disgraced the disbelievers from Quraysh and He (swt) gave the sahabah and his beloved prophet Victory.

This is because they did as Allah (swt) commanded them, they did rely purely upon dua' but their dua was accomapnied by actions. And they did not rely upon weapons to give them victory, but they prepared from what ever little weapon they had.

"Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war (tanks, planes, artillery) to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom you may not know but whom Allah does Know. Whatever you shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and you shall not be treated unjustly." (SurahAnfal 8:60)

And they has unwavering faith that ultimatly victory is from Allah and the fighting is a test from Allah to see reward those who made effort and sacrifice for Jannah, and those who just sat at home.

So it is essential that as muslims we are constantly asking for the help of Allah, make dua for the muslims, in Palastine, Iraq, Afghanistan and else where. Ameen



Disclaimer: This post is purely for academic purposes, explaining the status weapons in Islam, This post should not be interpreted by the reader or others to be incitement, glorification or supporting terrorism against individulas or a state, of any sort. Islam condemns terrorism.
 

Abu Hannah

Slave of Allah
time to deal

I agree with DNA. We gotta wake up and start figuring out how we deal with these stark new realities.

:salam2:
 

B.H.

Junior Member
Thermobarbaric!

Why don't these people just set up huge concentration camps across their territories, employ a few hundred professional-murderers (aka military personel) to capture ignorant/innocent/helpless locals and torture them! Y'know, rip the flesh from their bodies, their fingernails, expose them to attack-dogs, humiliation practices...

OH WAIT, THEY ALREADY DO THAT! Whoops.

Seriously, why don't these disgusting human beings just use their nukes and get this over with! We're not afraid of what's to come after this life... maybe they are??

They certainly should be.


There are people who claim the US has a system of concentration camps set up where during "a national ememrgency" hundreds of thousands of "enemies" can be rounded up and sent to.
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
There are people who claim the US has a system of concentration camps set up where during "a national ememrgency" hundreds of thousands of "enemies" can be rounded up and sent to.

Salaam alaykum;

if they have kind of camps seems they have then read they history books well - and took some lessons about it what Nazis had in Europe during the World War II - for they enemies at that time. Or what Stalin had during his time in the Soviet Union...
 

B.H.

Junior Member
Salaam alaykum;

if they have kind of camps seems they have then read they history books well - and took some lessons about it what Nazis had in Europe during the World War II - for they enemies at that time. Or what Stalin had during his time in the Soviet Union...


Americans were the ones who taught Hitler about concentration camps. We used them with the American Indians and Hitler took the idea and ran with it to get rid of the Jews and Gypsies.
 

MOSABJA

Junior Member
What ever tactics the kuffar use.ALLAH is with the believers fighting for DEEN.With the will of Allah afghans have defeated British,Soviets and now they are taking on Americans .Soviets also used chemical weapons but they had to withdraw.The people of KHURASSAN(afghanistan and Tribal areas of Pakistan) have a strong affiliation to Islam and Inshallah they will help Muslim ummah.
 

muharram23

New Member
Staff member
:salam2: I didn't wanted to annoy anyone with this article, I was soooooooo shocked when reading, I just simple cannot understand why Human beings can act this way. I ..... just simply cannot conceive it. I lived in Argentina during the military period. It was awfull for many many people and very cruel(oh how much so cruel!)But this kind of weapon, don't know.... even against my worst ennemy!!!!!!!:shymuslima1: :shymuslima1: :shymuslima1:

that which happend before during the crusades to muslims was worse. When crusaders took over jerusalem, they slaughtered 70000 muslims in one day. When the tatars took over bagdad, they slaughter about 2 milion muslims in like few days. Wallahu alem
 
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