Dealing with a Christian


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I started a new job today, and the manager is a hard core Christian (Pastor). He was pushing my buttons all day and it felt like he was trying to convert me. He was persistent in Jesus was God and the ONLY way. I just nodded my head because I didn't feel the need to argue. What do I do? He said many things but I just didnt feel the need to bash his beliefs.


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Does he think that he can convert you without questions being asked? Questions that would most likely leave him confused himself. I asked questions to a Christian lady and in the end she replied: "Look, I'm just a normal Christian..."

Browse through the "Muslim<----->Christian Dialogue" part of the site and insha' Allaah ta'aala you may find something useful. For example, my brother asked a devout Christian girl: "Is Jesus God?" "Yes." "Is the Father God?" "Yes." "Is the Holy Spirit God?" "Yes." "They're all different?" "Yes." "That's three gods." "WELL...YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL!"



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Salam Alaykom Sister!

I was once a Christian (hard core) and I know very well how Christians react towards others systems of beliefs. Unfortunately they are so indoctrinated towards the teachings of the trinity.

Ok, so this is the philosophy of Christians with their stubborn idea of the trinity.

Adam and Eve sin caused humanity to be "separated from the grace/mercy of God" according to biblical scripture ( i forgot the actual verse but its in there hehe) As a result of eating from the forbidden fruit... they knew they were naked so they needed to kill an animal to hide or conceal their sin.. and thus the tradition in the Jewish scriptures of sacrificing an animal, such as a lamb ( notice the symbolism lamb= white, innocent and pure)

Oh ! but wait.. God had it all planned according to Christians.. because God then decided to send "his son" (astaghfirullah) which to Christians represents that innocent, pure "lamb" who would redeem the whole world..
of all their sins not only concealing them.. but cleansing them completely. Therefore the tradition of sacrificing animals is no longer of God's interest ( which of course it never was to begin with but only according to the Judeo-Christian tradition)
So, you can see why they revere Jesus so much.. because yes indeed he was a humble man but somehow they developed this notion that God is capable of possessing this virtue of humility.. It is indeed a very good virtue, in fact it is the opposite of arrogance, which we all know is the evil sin that Iblis committed. But what a Christian must realize is that God or Allah (subhan wa taala) is arrogant or in neutral terms, prideful !.. Why? Because to whom God needs to humble himself to? No one. Is He not the All Knowing and the All Powerful ? Allah subhan wa taala is Perfect, and as the perfect being he is, he does not need to feel intimidated or inferior in order to please someone else. On the other hand, humility is a virtue that only humans posses and is what Allah subhan wa taala expects from us, his slaves, his creation.

Anyone who tries to posses a virtue of God, ( The Creator, The All Knowing, The Compassionate..ect) is committing shirk and kufr because no one can be like him, and so in the case of Jesus in Christianity, the Christians believe that it is possible for an Omniscient Supreme Being to share is divinity with a human being..

So, you can explain this to the Christian Pastor, I am pretty sure he will be stunned.. Say that the story of God humbling himself and becoming human in the form of Jesus to save the whole world.. is a nice story of love for humanity but then say why you believe it is flawed.. Tell him that in the beginning, God as the Merciful being he is.. decided to forgive Adam and Eve of their sins and thus the real tradition of repenting, then just submitting to God (swt) alone with no partners or sons or daughters is what He really intended for humanity :)

This is only if you desire to send the message of Islam.. if you feel this will incite a debate and not a decent discussion.. then stay away from doing so and just simply politely tell the pastor that you have no intention of discussing religion in the work force..

Asalamu Alaykom ukhty and I hope you will not encounter any problems inshallah :hijabi:


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Allah has clearly described this situation in Quran
Quran 2:111
And they(jews and christians) say, "None will enter Paradise except one who is a Jew or a Christian." That is [merely] their wishful thinking. Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."

They will say you will not enter unless you believe in Jesus(as) as your saviour who died for your sin...........simply ask produce your proof!!

They will produce proof from the bible....ask them this is what Paul says...who is your Lord and Master..they will reply Jesus(as) then whom you are following...

What did Jesus said???

(Its not suprising if he does not know cause most of the christians dont know more than few verses from bible like "i and my father are one", "God gv his only son" etc )

{18:18}And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
{18:19} And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None [is] good, save one, [that is,] God. {18:20} Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
(Prophet Jesus (PBUH) said following the commandments is the way to Salvation. He never said that believe that I die for your sins. Not only this he stopped the man from calling him GOOD forget about calling him GOD)

{5:17} Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
{5:18}For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
{5:19}Who so ever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them,] the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
{5:20}For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees (talking about Jews), ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

And what OT says About Original sin??

{18:20}The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father; neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
{18:21}But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

The problem with christian brothers is that they say they believe in Jesus (pbuh) but they follow Paul........whose teachings are against the Red letters(Jesus's a.s word as per christians) this they wont mind in rejecting the words of Jesus (pbuh).......

Otherwise no where in in Bible Jesus ever Claimed i am God or worship me..

Jesus a.s Himself Prayed to one true Almighty God....(Acts 7:33, Acts 21:26)


Similarities Between Islam & Christianity

wa alykum as salam


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He was persistent in Jesus was God and the ONLY way. I just nodded my head because I didn't feel the need to argue. What do I do?

Ok if this is so what about those who were before Jesus(as) they never knew him???

Anyways ask him did Jesus(as) himself ever said that????

Probably he will come up with
John {14:6} Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Yes disagreement ....No community/nation can go to God(metaphorically father in Bible) without following the way shown by their Prophet.

In the same bible Jesus(as) said i have been sent for Jews only.[Matthew 15:24]

In the same bible Jesus(as) even said that teachings are incomplete and some one else is going to complete the teachings.[John 16:12-14]

Now reconcile all these verses and read in context.....He was the way to God for Jews till the arrival of last Prophet :saw:.

He said many things but I just didnt feel the need to bash his beliefs.

Ok dont argue just.......Start questioning with one liners.....and create doubt.

wa salam


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What jesus said about himself;
John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

John 5:31 "If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.

Jesus as a man;

Act2:22 "Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.


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On the other side, I am not sure where you are sister but here in the US its illegal to subject an employee to religious pressure.

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Islam is Light
Asalam aleacom warahmato Allah wabarakato brother RawTruth

Da`wah is conveying the message of Islam to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. It is to help all people be always on the right track and guide those who have gone astray to return to the path of Allah the Almighty. IOL Shari`ah Researchers,

Allah says in the Holy Quran:

“Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” (The Holy Quran, An-Nahl: 125)


“Thus it is due to mercy from Allah that you deal with them gently, and had you been rough, hard hearted, they would certainly have dispersed from around you; pardon them therefore and ask pardon for them, and take counsel with them in the affair.” (The Holy Quran, Al `Imran: 159)

Try and be patient.

Da`wah is done in two ways. The first one is through example, through being a role model. In the Qur'anic terminology it is called "being witnesses towards mankind" (Shuhada' 'ala an-nasi). It is the duty of every Muslim, male or female, young or old, to be a witness of Almighty Allah among the people. When people see a Muslim, they should see a good person, a person of truth, of sincerity and of virtue. A Muslim's life should be an open invitation through which people see the beauty of Islam and find it an interesting code of ethics and teachings to follow. Allah Most High says in the Qur'an: "Thus we have appointed you a middle community in order that you may be witnesses towards humankind and that the Messenger may be a witness towards you… (The Holy Quran, Al-Baqarah:143). All Muslims must give da`wah through their good Islamic life as individuals, as families and as communities. People who come into contact with them should see Islam as a living and practical faith that makes the life of human beings better.

Another way of giving da`wah is through teaching, preaching, communication, engaging in dialogues, discussions and debates, writing books and articles, giving lectures, etc. Almighty Allah says: “Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious. " (The Holy Quran, An-Nahl: 125) Of course this requires deep knowledge, preparation and training. Muslims should use the most effective and appropriate methods of da`wah in every place and time.
IOL Shari`ah Researchers,

But remember Allah says in the Holy Quran:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.” (The Holy Quran, al-Baqarah: 256)

This means that no one can force anyone else to become a Muslim, as faith concerns the heart.

I hope you find the following useful for dawa

Prophethood in Islam

The Story of Adam (peace be upon him)

Regarding 'The Original Sin'

The Historical Fallacy of Atonement

Mary (peace be upon her) in Islam

Jesus (peace be upon him) in Islam

The Story of Jesus and Mary (peace be upon them) in the Holy Quran

The Descriptive Titles of Jesus (peace be upon him) in the Quran "The Messiah" and "a Miracle"

The Descriptive Titles of Jesus (peace be upon him) in the Quran A "Word" and "Spirit" from God

Jesus' (peace be upon him) Greatest Commandment

The Return of Jesus (peace be upon him)

Discovering the Real Jesus Peace be upon him)

Christian Scholars Recognize Contradictions in the Bible

Who Invented the Trinity?

Pauline Theology

Jesus Christ - Son of God?

The Crucifixion

The Old Testament

The New Testament

Is Jesus God?

Divinity of Jesus? An Inquiry (peace be upon him)

The Bible Denies the Divinity of Jesus (peace be upon him)

Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him)

Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him)


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On the other side, I am not sure where you are sister but here in the US its illegal to subject an employee to religious pressure.

We live in Alabama. It happened again today. I was training as a manager at a local fast food chain, and he again kept telling me Jesus was God and it was the only truth. We all are misguided (who are not Christians) , and he says he has done so much research and learned Hebrew and Greek.(I doubt) How can he learn all that and not see the contradictions of the bible? I dont life to offend people so I just nodded my head. Anyways my husband told me to quit. We desperately needed the money but I quit.
When I turned to Islam, it was like the clouds were lifted from my eyes and I see more clearly now. I see the truth, and its hard to explain to people, so I dont. I do understand that I cannot make someone see the truth, I can only show them the path and it is their choice to walk down it.

Anyways that is the end of my Christian encounter and I will now be prepared for the next.:tti_sister: