Fajr Salah Question

[Tabassum07]

:salam2:

Say if we sleep through the alarm, or for some reason we miss the Fajr Salah.. when we make it up do we make up the Sunnah rakahs as well? I'm asking because the Sunnah of Fajr are special as the Prophet :saw2: never left those even whilst travelling, etc.

 

[Ershad]

:salam2:

Say if we sleep through the alarm, or for some reason we miss the Fajr Salah.. when we make it up do we make up the Sunnah rakahs as well? I'm asking because the Sunnah of Fajr are special as the Prophet :saw2: never left those even whilst travelling, etc.

Refer below

 

[thariq2005]

walaikkum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

After sunrise, you should not do more than the obligated two rak’ah of Fajr. It is a Bida'h if you do.

Akhee, you saying it is a bid`ah to pray the two rak`ah sunnah of Fajar, after sunrise is bid`ah? Can you please tell me which scholar said it is bid`ah to pray the sunnah of fajar after sunrise

 

[Ershad]

Akhee, you saying it is a bid`ah to pray the two rak`ah sunnah of Fajar, after sunrise is bid`ah? Can you please tell me which scholar said it is bid`ah to pray the sunnah of fajar after sunrise

Refer below

 

[Ayyub]

:salam2:

Say if we sleep through the alarm, or for some reason we miss the Fajr Salah.. when we make it up do we make up the Sunnah rakahs as well? I'm asking because the Sunnah of Fajr are special as the Prophet :saw2: never left those even whilst travelling, etc.

Assalmou Alaikoum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Ukhti do you mean the Dhuha prayer???Or do you mean the two Rak'aa before Fajr prayer??


If you mean the later one then there is a hadith and a fatwa about your question and inchallah it will be benifical for you.

If a person prays the fajr prayer late, should he pray the optional two rak'ahs or not?
Whoever is overcome by sleep and he does not wake up until after the rising of the sun should pray fajr just as he used to pray it beforehand, and he prays the Sunnah of the fajr before that.

For indeed it is established that the Messenger of Allaah sal Allaahu alaiyhi wa sallam was overcome by sleep in a journey and neither he nor his Companions woke up until after the rising of the sun.

So the adhaan was called for it (the prayer) and he prayed the optional prayer before ( the obligatory two rakýahs) then he prayed it (the obligatory two rakýahs) ý salawaat ullaahi wa salaamuhu alaiyhi. (Bukhaari 2/66, Muslim 681)

And with Allaah is the tawfeeq. And may peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and his Companions.

Permanent Committee for Research and Verdicts
Shaykh `Abdul-`Azeez Bin Baz
Shaykh `Abdullah bin Ghudayaan
Shaykh `Abdullaah bin Qu`ood
Shaykh `Abdur-Razzaaq al-`Afeefee
Question five from fatwa 6576 P13 volume 6 Fataawa of the Permanent Committee
Translated by Abu Abdir Rahmaan Nasser ibn Najam

 

[Ershad]

Assalmou Alaikoum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Ukhti do you mean the Dhuha prayer???Or do you mean the two Rak'aa before Fajr prayer??


If you mean the later one then there is a hadith and a fatwa about your question and inchallah it will be benifical for you.

Walaikkum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

Jazaakallahu khairan akhi, Sorry for misleading information before.

 

[thariq2005]

Okay maybe you misunderstood. The sister asked specifically about the two rak`ah sunnah of fajar, if it can be prayed after sunrise.

Say if we sleep through the alarm, or for some reason we miss the Fajr Salah.. when we make it up do we make up the Sunnah rakahs as well?

And you responded the following:

After sunrise, you should not do more than the obligated two rak’ah of Fajr. It is a Bida'h if you do.

Which means praying anything other than the Fajar salaah is bid`ah. But khayran, if you misunderstood then that's fine.

As for the question from sister Tabassum, then yes it is sunnah to make up the sunnah prayers you missed. So, make it up after sunrise in shaa'Allaah.

 

[Ershad]

Okay maybe you misunderstood. The sister asked specifically about the two rak`ah sunnah of fajar, if it can be prayed after sunrise.



And you responded the following:



Which means praying anything other than the Fajar salaah is bid`ah. But khayran, if you misunderstood then that's fine.

As for the question from sister Tabassum, then yes you it is sunnah to make up the sunnah prayers you missed. So, make it up after sunrise in shaa'Allaah.

Baarakallahu feekum, akhi.

Insha Allah, this could be useful as well - http://alifta.com/Fatawa/Fatwaprint.aspx?id=5765&BookID=&sectionid=14

Previously, my statement was based on this . However, as it can be seen, it is not sunrise and has been changed to the beginning of Fajr. Hence, the confusion. I apologize for it.

 

[Tabassum07]

:salam2:

JazakAllahu Khayr, brothers! Alhamdulillah, I got a perfect answer to my question.

And now that we're in the summer months, every day I have a lot of respect for whoever are the people who pray Fajr in parts of the world where Sunrise happens around 3am.

 

[finding light]

Baarakallahu feekum, akhi.

Insha Allah, this could be useful as well - http://alifta.com/Fatawa/Fatwaprint.aspx?id=5765&BookID=&sectionid=14

Previously, my statement was based on this . However, as it can be seen, it is not sunrise and has been changed to the beginning of Fajr. Hence, the confusion. I apologize for it.

:salam2: Brother,

Im sorry I am not understanding this term "beginning of Fajr".
I get the answer of praying Fajr AFTER sunrise - we should pray the two Rakha Sunnah and two rakha Fard (but as Qadha or normal??)
What is meant by beginning of Fajr?
For example: where I am Fajr is at 3:30am, sunrise is at 4:45. So if I wake up at 5am, I can make Fajr Qadha - which should be 2Sunnah and 2 Fard...
But if I wake up at 4 - there is still time for Fajr so should make it as Fajr..

What is meant by "beginning of Fajr" when 2 Sunnah should not be performed?

 

[Ershad]

:salam2: Brother,

Im sorry I am not understanding this term "beginning of Fajr".
I get the answer of praying Fajr AFTER sunrise - we should pray the two Rakha Sunnah and two rakha Fard (but as Qadha or normal??)
What is meant by beginning of Fajr?
For example: where I am Fajr is at 3:30am, sunrise is at 4:45. So if I wake up at 5am, I can make Fajr Qadha - which should be 2Sunnah and 2 Fard...
But if I wake up at 4 - there is still time for Fajr so should make it as Fajr..

What is meant by "beginning of Fajr" when 2 Sunnah should not be performed?

Walaykkum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

What I understand from that is after the Iqamah has been given you should delay the Sunnah of Fajr Prayer after the the Fajr Prayer. This is based on the Hadith in which the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, When the prayer commences then there is no prayer (valid), but the obligatory prayer. Narrated by Muslim. The two supererogatory Rak`ahs prior to Fajr may be offered after Fajr Prayer has been offered or after sunrise.

Source: http://www.alifta.com/Fatawa/FatawaChapters.aspx?View=Tree&NodeID=2184&PageNo=1&BookID=7

So the person was performing Sunnah after the Iqamah was given. That is how I understand it. Allahu A'lam. Because, in no other way, it can be a Bida'h. I am sorry for putting that up and confusing people.

You don't have to complicate it, if you wake up after you have overslept i.e. after sunrise, just make it up by performing the Sunnah and then the obligatory prayer.

 

[Seeking Allah's Mercy]

Asalamo`Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Baraakaatuh,

That's a new one. So if I pray two sunnah before two fardh between, say 3:30 to 4:45 a.m, it's bid`ah? I mean we girls don't pray in a mosque and don't know when the iqamah is given.

Also men in here, if they don't make it to the mosque, they pray as two Sunnah and then two Fardh.

 

[Ershad]

Asalamo`Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Baraakaatuh,

That's a new one. So if I pray two sunnah before two fardh between, say 3:30 to 4:45 a.m, it's bid`ah? I mean we girls don't pray in a mosque and don't know when the iqamah is given.

Also men in here, if they don't make it to the mosque, they pray as two Sunnah and then two Fardh.

Walaykkum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

I was talking about praying in congregation and also in that there seems to be a difference in opinion in that if the prayer has started should one join the congregation abandoning the Sunnah or If one should finish it and join. But, I do not know about that. So, I do not want to delve into that. The correct view according to al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah and Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen is that one should join the congregation immediately(http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/33582). I was just giving an explanation of why the Imam forbade it here.

If you are not the part of the congregation, you do what is default i.e. two Sunnah followed by Fardh. I don't understand the confusion here. Also, for women there is no requirement to call Iqamah and Adhan (http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/20225)

Baarakallahu feekum

 

[finding light]

JazakAllah Khair Bro... it is clear...