HAZRAT HUSSAIN (RA) AND HAZRAT YAZID (RA): Facts And Fallacies (Tragedy Of Karbala).

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Hammy

Banned
kalamazoo said:
:wasalam:

i think you too did not read me clearly as see the bolded BLACK
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Alright bro!!! this is it!!! now you getting arrogant.. you do whatever you feel like, but enough is the Command of Our Lord for Christians as misguided, Shia's are CURSED by Allah and they are beating and cutting themselves and will continue till Qiyamah, InshAllah... and for Hindu's, no comments...

by writing in bold and bigger that arabic text will not make the Biddatis into Saaleheen... people do amazing stuff when something goes against their desires... they do wild things and i dont want to debate with you with things already decided... you have your own free will but we are the enemies of those who are enemies of Allah (swt)... and we shall not "respect" the innovators in their following or whatesover may be the case....
 
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kalamazoo

'Millat "IBRAHIM" {AleyhiSalaam}
شَرَعَ لَكُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّى بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَى وَعِيسَى أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يُنِيبُ ﴿42:13﴾


(42:13) He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined upon Noah and which We revealed to you (O Muhammad), and which We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus, commanding:
“Establish this religion and do not split up regarding it.” *20 What you are calling to is very hard upon those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity. Allah chooses for Himself whomsoever He pleases and guides to Himself whoever penitently turns to Him. *21


sadaqa Lllah.

calm down brother calm down
we are here as an example of khairat umma;
and if you have anything against me in person you can write me;
or are you one of those who sent me mail trying to explain to me the deviation of maududi;
and while i asked them for a single verse they have so we can discus they vanished.
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H

Hammy

Banned
kalamazoo said:
شَرَعَ لَكُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّى بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَى وَعِيسَى أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يُنِيبُ ﴿42:13﴾


(42:13) He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined upon Noah and which We revealed to you (O Muhammad), and which We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus, commanding:
“Establish this religion and do not split up regarding it.” *20 What you are calling to is very hard upon those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity. Allah chooses for Himself whomsoever He pleases and guides to Himself whoever penitently turns to Him. *21


sadaqa Lllah.

calm down brother calm down
we are here as an example of khairat umma;
and if you have anything against me in person you can write me;
or are you one of those who sent me mail trying to explain to me the deviation of maududi;
and while i asked them for a single verse they have so we can discus they vanished.
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rather i am tellin you to calm down.. lol... i dont know where you are going bro and i dont have any personal grudges with you and how shall i, i dont even know you... i dint send any mails to you lets stcik to the topic or else leave it...
 
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kalamazoo

'Millat "IBRAHIM" {AleyhiSalaam}
Originally Posted by kalamazoo View Post
شَرَعَ لَكُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّى بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَى وَعِيسَى أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يُنِيبُ ﴿42:13﴾


(42:13) He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined upon Noah and which We revealed to you (O Muhammad), and which We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus, commanding:
“Establish this religion and do not split up regarding it.” *20 What you are calling to is very hard upon those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity. Allah chooses for Himself whomsoever He pleases and guides to Himself whoever penitently turns to Him. *21


sadaqa Lllah.

thanks good brother
and now how about the above verse
for sure it tells us something; partially or fully to where we were Or are.
 
H

Hammy

Banned
kalamazoo said:
Originally Posted by kalamazoo View Post
شَرَعَ لَكُمْ مِنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّى بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَى وَعِيسَى أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَنْ يُنِيبُ ﴿42:13﴾


(42:13) He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined upon Noah and which We revealed to you (O Muhammad), and which We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus, commanding:
“Establish this religion and do not split up regarding it.” *20 What you are calling to is very hard upon those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity. Allah chooses for Himself whomsoever He pleases and guides to Himself whoever penitently turns to Him. *21


sadaqa Lllah.

thanks good brother
and now how about the above verse
for sure it tells us something; partially or fully to where we were Or are.
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i dint get you brother....
 
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kalamazoo

'Millat "IBRAHIM" {AleyhiSalaam}
:salam2:

بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ

42:13) He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined upon Noah and which We revealed to you (O Muhammad), and which We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus,
{to my understanding of the above}which i will take step by step<here i welcome anybody for sharing not copy and paste but to what he understood the verse on agenda>
here it is clearly stated that ( He has prescribed for you the religion:---not only for those but for us present)after mentioning the first Noah comes to Muhammad(automatically is UMMAT Muhammad as well;
and seeing Prophet Moses after Ibrahim is to tell the followers of Moses and Issa that this is the only way )deen(islam

commanding:
“Establish this religion and do not split up regarding it.”
Here it us us Muhammad followers so the others may follow our way(of Establishing according to the directive we receive from Kuran(Now let us ask ourselves Are we establishing Din Islam? Or establishing sects even while the verse is clearly understood that we do not Split.

*20 What you are calling to is very hard upon those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity.

Here of course is Nabiiyna Muhammad(s.a.w) and that it dosen't totally meant to him but his followers that is all Muslim.((Yes Allah Jala wa ala he clearly stated it is not any easy thing to accept those (it means any who have spitted into sect(and you know that) but a matter is to be conveyed and let leave for the Big judge the Master(Allah)
Allah chooses for Himself whomsoever He pleases and guides to Himself whoever penitently turns to Him.
*21

the above dosen't need further explanation Yet we can say the knowledge of deen islam it is Allah himself to guide and if we go to choosing i can say as a messenger.(by Allah)

now brothers and sisters if any has understood other way round I dont see any reason why not to come up with His/Her-understanding

(The best knowledge is with Allah)

and if we don't discus concerning our understanding of Kuran how will we know how much we are on the right track !
 
H

Hammy

Banned
kalamazoo said:
:salam2:

بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ

42:13) He has prescribed for you the religion which He enjoined upon Noah and which We revealed to you (O Muhammad), and which We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus,
{to my understanding of the above}which i will take step by step<here i welcome anybody for sharing not copy and paste but to what he understood the verse on agenda>
here it is clearly stated that ( He has prescribed for you the religion:---not only for those but for us present)after mentioning the first Noah comes to Muhammad(automatically is UMMAT Muhammad as well;
and seeing Prophet Moses after Ibrahim is to tell the followers of Moses and Issa that this is the only way )deen(islam

commanding:
“Establish this religion and do not split up regarding it.”
Here it us us Muhammad followers so the others may follow our way(of Establishing according to the directive we receive from Kuran(Now let us ask ourselves Are we establishing Din Islam? Or establishing sects even while the verse is clearly understood that we do not Split.

*20 What you are calling to is very hard upon those who associate others with Allah in His Divinity.

Here of course is Nabiiyna Muhammad(s.a.w) and that it dosen't totally meant to him but his followers that is all Muslim.((Yes Allah Jala wa ala he clearly stated it is not any easy thing to accept those (it means any who have spitted into sect(and you know that) but a matter is to be conveyed and let leave for the Big judge the Master(Allah)
Allah chooses for Himself whomsoever He pleases and guides to Himself whoever penitently turns to Him.
*21

the above dosen't need further explanation Yet we can say the knowledge of deen islam it is Allah himself to guide and if we go to choosing i can say as a messenger.(by Allah)

now brothers and sisters if any has understood other way round I dont see any reason why not to come up with His/Her-understanding

(The best knowledge is with Allah)

and if we don't discus concerning our understanding of Kuran how will we know how much we are on the right track !
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I understand those who split up in sects their affair is with Allah but again the post of mine is only for our knowledge whatever happened.. had happened however there are lot of ppl who still say bad things about Hazrat Yazid infact we were not present at that time so how can someone assume or be in dount while doubting is also HARAAM... that's fine brother but i cannot be a friend of these FITNAH LOVERS and i would like to stay away from them... you got a different perspective for them and i respect it, but only if you are on TAUHEED.... JazakAllahKairan...
 
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kalamazoo

'Millat "IBRAHIM" {AleyhiSalaam}
Azimax said:
Masha Allah, everything seems smooth now :D
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Hammy said:
:jumpclap:Alhamdulillah....
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:salam2:


and this is because of
Fadhl Raabuna.........Yes ..It is.

i wish if we Muslims to ONE word ISLAM
however it needs power and if we have the eyes to discern it is withn our reach and the Most Powerful (Allah) is

(2:255) Allah: the Everlasting, the Sustainer of the whole Universe; there is no god but He. He does neither slumber nor sleep. Whatsoever is in the heavens and in the earth is His. Who is there that can intercede with Him except by His own permission.? He knows what is before the people and also what is hidden from them. And they cannot comprehend anything of His knowledge save whatever He Himself pleases to reveal. His Kingdom spreads over the heavens and the earth and the guarding of these does not weary Him. He alone is the Supreme and the Exalted. (2:256) There is no compulsion and coercion in regard to religion. The right thing has been made distinct from the wrong thing: now whoever rejects taghut and believes in Allah has taken a firm support that never gives way. (2:257) And Allah (Whose support he takes) hears everything and knows everything. Allah is the Helper and Protector of those who believe in Him: He brings them out of the depths of darkness into the light. As for the disbelievers, they have taghut as their patron, who drives them out of light into the depths of darkness. These are the people who are doomed to the Fire, wherein they shall live for ever.

sadaqa Lllah.
 
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