Husband or wife travels to work with another women or man??? Haram??

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    This is all well and good until you are placed in a situation like I was for over 4 years. I converted to Islam and my family cut ties with me. For all intents and purposes I was like an orphan, no mahrem to escort me places. I approached a sheik with my situation and asked him what I should do. His response was, "It's haram to travel without an escort who is mahrem."

    Well that's just great, am I supposed to create a mahrem out of thin air? He basically quoted Qur'an and Hadith but simply refused to acknowledge that what he was commanding was simply impossible. I needed to grocery shop, take my classes so I could eventually support myself if there never was a husband (it happens) and basically survive.

    Islam is a religion of ease and common sense. There are some situations that require flexibility and allowances. I am now married and a physician. My work is vital as there is a serious lack of doctors for Muslim women. Would you rather we all remain "fixed in our homes" than provide someone for your mothers, daughter, and sisters to go to for health care? Would you rather a man examine and treat them?

    Many of Prophet Mohammed's (peace be upon him) wives continued to work in charity outside the home. And of course we need not forget Kadijah, who the Prophet said was pivotal with her wealth (from her business, no less) when it came to the spread of Islam.
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    This is par for the course for most "sheikhs" and "scholars". They will be quick to point out what a muslim woman does wrong, but fails to help her find practical solutions to her dilemna. In fact, I notice it on this forum. There are all sorts of threads about what women should and shouldn't do, but not much on the sins of the man.

    Of course it is easy for a man to work in a halal environment. There is one simple solution. He runs his own business. That way, he has control over the envirnment and the employees. The other solution is for him to work in boys school.

    If it is difficult for men, do you not think it is even more difficult for single muslim women to find a job that will pay for all of her expenses?

    No, I dont' have a duty to "demand" that my brothers and father help. My father is 80 years old. I do not demand anything of him. It is my duty to be respectful. He has memorized the Quran, he knows the drill. And, if he does not want to do something, my father simply does not do it. He thinks that because I live in the west, I should be supporting myself and taking care of myself. I am not going to scold him.

    I have asked many community members how do muslim women get married in the west. And i never get answers. They are too busy playing matchy-matchy with the 20-somethings. I have asked my mother the same questin, and she does not know.

    So I have made efforts and inquiries. It is time for the muslim males in my family to step up. But if they are blind, then it is wilfull blindness and I cannot wave a magic wand and force them to see the true path. They are all muslim, they are well read and have made their choices. I am a soft-spoken, shy person - I don't go around demanding and lecturing my elders.
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    Assalaam alaikum,


    When we make intention Allah subhana wa taala responds.

    When we ask Allah subhana wa taala to lead us on the straight path He does. When knowledge is given to us we have to act upon it.

    Often what is suggested for us seems insane in Islam. Yet, there is always wisdom behind it.

    What many women are undergoing is not the fault of the faith. It is the shortcomings of those who do not take the words of Allah subhana wa taala seriously. Be it on a global level or even an individual level.

    It has been posted a hundred times that Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change their hearts.

    Here is a thread that needs no discussion. We are told that women need to avoid certain activities. We are focusing on all that is haram. Equally, and moreso there is more halaal.

    Sisters, you don't have to tell the old one what is up...I know..but, as we progress in the application of faith He responds by giving us more of His blessings.

    At first it seems impossible to follow the rules of Islam but the more we are willing to obey, the more we are willing to obey; it becomes easier.
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    in the past,but not so far,the daughter by nature was educated and prepared for a life as married woman.it was taught her how to take care of the house,how to cook,how to use the needle to repair broken clothes.her duty,as muslim woman,should have been that to "serve" her husband,'cause he,differently from her,had the duty to work and bring the necessary to survive.the daughter stayed at home until one day she chose her future husband.
    I hear of women who don't either cook an omlette.women who talk too much,but don't do their work happily,'cause they want to be free from the duties.islamically talking,the true woman should have some qualities which would ease her the path,instead of making it difficlut.I talk for myself,my parents didn't like tha as daughter I went to work for somebody else,so they mainteined me until I decided to get married.then,my husband as good thinker,didn't like me to wake up early to go working for another one,'cause he was able to maintain me.in exchange of this,what's better than having a home all for me?there are those women who don't like sitting at home.in this society,we have to adaptate to what it comes,so,if in the past it was strange and against the Sunna seeing a woman travelling alone or with a non mahram/working in a free-mixed situation,(exception for few women,one over all Khadija RAwife of the prophetSAWS,who was a trader)...while nowdays it's necessary for bothe to work,because life has become costly.

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