I was thinking......and that can be dangerous!!!

Isra

aka Tree2008
As Salamo Alaikome......

Ok watch out coz here is the nosy sister to ask even more embarrassing and ridiculous questions!!!!! :SMILY26: hahaha

I was performing my salat this evening and it made me think of something so I thought I would ask and see if anyone can answer this question. You know in the salat we pray for blessings upon our prophet Muhammed (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) so that made me wonder how we came about to do that? I just wondered who suggested that we perform our salat that way??

The reason for my concern is that some of you may know I was Christian before reverting and I wondered before how it was that Isa (Jesus) (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) became known as the son of God to the Christians. He (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) is a prophet and messenger but they distorted that fact and turned him (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) into God. I just wonder how easy it would be to do the same thing with our beloved prophet Muhammed (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) and that line we walk between love, devotion and worship is crossed.

So I thought about the way that the prophet (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) must have performed salat when he lived. I cant imagine that he said the words of blessing upon himself so where did it come from and why do we include the prophets (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) name in the shahada???

Forgive me if I am wrong for questioning this but I am just a curious person by nature I guess and really I need to know everything about Islam. I have actually read some dialog on the internet that suggested we as muslims could possibly overstep that fine line between loving the prophet (sal allahu alayhe wa salam) and actually worshipping him beside Allah. Im not sure what to believe is right so I try to be neutral about it all.

May Allah reward you for your knowledge and for helping me.
 
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This is in a text called Fiqh by sayed saabiq r.a. here is the link:http://abdurrahman.org/sunnah/fiqhussunnah/frame.html

here is the writing, it is in

fiqh asunnah, Volume 1 Number 124b:

Obligatory acts of prayer, The Final Sitting and Recital of the Tashahud

The Prophet's practice illustrates that when the final sitting of the prayer has been made, one must recite the tashahud at that time. In one hadith, he said, "When you raise your head from the last prostration and sit for the tashahud, you have completed your prayer."

Says Ibn Qudamah, "It has been related that Ibn 'Abbas said, 'We used to say, before the tashahud was made obligatory upon us, 'Peace be upon Allah before His slaves, peace be upon Gabriel, peace be upon Mikhail.' The Prophet, upon whom be peace, said, 'Do not say, 'Peace be upon Allah,' but say, 'Salutations to Allah.' This proves that the tashah ud was made obligatory, although before it was not."

The most authentic report concerning the tashahud is Ibn Mas'ud's, who said, "When we would sit with the Prophet in the prayer, we would say, 'Peace be upon Allah before His slaves, peace be upon so and so.' The Prophet said, 'Do not say peace be upon Allah, for Allah is peace. When one of you sits, he should say
salutations be to Allah, and the prayers, and the good deeds, peace be upon us and upon Allah's sincere slaves (if you say that, it applies to all of Allah's sincere slaves in the heavens and the earth). I bear witness that there is no god except Allah. I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger.' Then you may choose whatever supplication you desire." (Related by "the group.")

Says Muslim, "The people are in agreement over the tashahud of Ibn Mas'ud, and the companions do not differ over it." At-Tirmidhi, al-Khattabi, Ibn 'Abdul-Barr and Ibn al-Mundhir all agree that Ibn Mas'ud's hadith is the most authentic one on this topic.

Said Ibn 'Abbas, "The Messenger of Allah used to teach us the tashahud like he taught us the Qur'an. He would say, 'Salutations, blessings, prayers and good deeds for Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. Peace be upon us and the sincere slaves of Allah. I bear witness that there is no god except Allah. I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and messenger." (Related by ash-Shaifi, Muslim, Abu Dawud and anNasa'i.)

Says ash-Shaifi, "Different hadith have been related about the tashahud, but that one is the best in my opinion, for it is the most complete. Al-Hafez states, "Ash-Shaifi was asked about this choice and the tashahud of Ibn 'Abbas, and he replied, 'I have found it to be the most encompassing. I have heard it from Ibn 'Abbas (through) authentic (chains). To me, it is more complete..."

There is another form of the tashahud that Malik chose. In al-Muwatta, it is stated that 'Abdurahman ibn 'Abdul-Qari heard 'Umar ibn al-Khattab teaching the people, from the pulpit, this tashahud: "Salutations to Allah, purifications to Allah, the good deeds and prayers be to Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. Peace be upon us and Allah's sincere slaves. I testify that there is no god but Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is His slave and messenger."

Commenting on the stature of such hadith, an-Nawawi says, "Those hadith concerning the tashahud are all sahih. Hadith scholars are agreed that the strongest of them is the hadith of Ibn Mas'ud, and then the hadith of Ibn 'Abbas. " Ash-Shaf'i said that any tashahud one uses will suffice, for the scholars agree that every one of them is permissible."


Now I highly recommend you read the prophet prayer described by sheik Albany r.a.
http://abdurrahman.org/salah/prophetsPrayerAlbaani/index.htm

he goes over in detail, and he was a muhaddith

http://www.fatwa-online.com/scholarsbiographies/15thcentury/alalbaanee.htm

may Allah guide us All to the straight path
:wasalam:
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
:salam2:

Dear sister when a muslem say:I bear witness that there is no god except Allah. I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and messenger.

Then things are made very clear that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad :saw:is no more than a slave to Allah. One creator : everything else are just his creation including the noble prophets.

More :

Prophet Mohammad :saw: also forbade people making his graveyard a place of worship. He said “don’t you over praise me just as the Christian have overpraised Prophet Jesus (PBUH) for I am only the servant of God and His messenger”.
 

Mohsin

abdu'Allah
:salam2:

Sister here is what I found. I hope this will be of help, inshaAllah.
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:
The scholars differed concerning the ruling on sending blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the tashahhud in prayer. There are several opinions, one of which is that it is a pillar or essential part of the prayer, without which the prayer is not valid. Others said that it is obligatory, and the third view is that it is Sunnah and mustahabb, but is not obligatory.

Shaykh Muhammad al-Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) regarded the third view as most likely to be correct. He said in his commentary on Zaad al-Mustaqni’:
The words “Sending blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)” mean, in the last tashahhud, which is the twelfth “pillar” of the prayer.

The evidence for that is the fact that the Sahaabah asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “O Messenger of Allaah, we have learned how to send salaams upon you, how should we send blessings upon you?” He said: “Say: Allaahumma salli ‘ala Muhammad, wa ‘ala aali Muhammad (O Allaah, send blessings upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad).” A command implies that it is obligatory, and the basic principle concerning an obligation is that it is a must (fard), and if it is not done, then the prayer is invalid. This is how the fuqaha (may Allaah have mercy on them) settled this issue.

But if you think about this hadeeth, it is not obvious therefrom that sending blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is a “pillar” of the prayer, because the Sahaabah were simply asking how to do it – how should we send blessings upon you? So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught them how to do it.

Hence we say that the command in the word “Qoolu (Say)” does not mean that it is obligatory; rather the purpose here was to teach them. If there is any other evidence which enjoins sending blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in prayer, then it must be followed; if there is nothing apart from this report, this does not indicate that it is obligatory, let alone indicating that it is a “pillar” of the prayer. Hence the scholars differed concerning this matter and there were several opinions:

1 – The first opinion is that it is a “pillar” of prayer. This is the well-known view of our madhhab, that prayer is not valid without it.

2 – The second view is that it is obligatory, but is not a “pillar”, and the prostration of forgetfulness (sujood al-sahw) is required if it is omitted by mistake.​

They said: That is because his words, “Say: Allaahumma salli ‘ala Muhammad, wa ‘ala aali Muhammad (O Allaah, send blessings upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad)” imply both a command and teaching, and we cannot say that it a “pillar” of the prayer without which prayer is not valid when it possible to understand the phrase as meaning that it is an obligatory part of prayer and not a “pillar”.

3 – The third view is that sending blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is a Sunnah, and is not obligatory or a pillar of the prayer. This view was narrated from Imam Ahmad. If a person deliberately omits it, his prayer is still valid, because the evidence quoted by those who regard it as obligatory and those who regard it as a pillar of the prayer does not clearly indicate either of the things suggested, so the basic principle is that it is not essential.

This is the view which is most likely to be correct because there is no other evidence apart from this report which the fuqaha’ (may Allaah have mercy on them) quoted as evidence. We cannot regard an act of worship as being invalid because of evidence which may be understood as a command or may be understood as teaching.
Al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 3/310-312

Based on this, a prayer offered without it is still valid.
Apart from this I must say that you have this good habit of asking things which you doubt about. Sister, never feel ashamed in asking things as we and those before us knew nothing before the coming of the Prophet (PBUH) and everyone of us has an obligation to acquire knowledge. You are simply fulfilling your obligation.

Our Prophet salla Allah alaihi wasallam told us that “Acquiring the knowledge of Quran and Sunnah is a must on every Muslim and that the Angles are so pleased with the Muslim who pursues this knowledge, they put their wings down for him”.

As for saying prayer for someone, it is completely different from praying them of asking from them. We do not ask the Prophet anything instead we ask Allah SWT to send his blessings upon his Prophet (PBUH).

Saying the name of the Prophet in Shahadah is obligatory.

Bearing witness “laa ilaahah illa allah” and that “muhammadun rasool ullaah” is the first pillar of the five pillars of Islam. And the meaning of “laa ilaahah illa allah” is that nothing worshipped is worthy of worship except Allah—it is simultaneously a denial and affirmation. “laa ilaahah” is denial of all worship other than that of Allah. “illa allaah” is affirmation that all worship is for Allah alone without partners.

As for the declaration, “muhammadun rasool ullaa,” its meaning is the assertion of the message of Mohammed (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and to believe in it and to adhere to it by speech, action and faith, and to avoid all that is against it, whether it be sayings, actions, or intentions… In other words, obeying him in what he ordered and believing in what he said and relayed and avoiding what he has forbid and denounced and not worshipping Allah except as he has ordained.

wa-sall-allahu wa-sallim ‘ala nabiyyina muhammadin wa-aalihi wa-sahbih.
(May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon our prophet Muhammad and upon his families and companions).
 

Nurain

Junior Member
Salam

SubhanAllaah this is a good question to ask. I'm no convert but i have been thinking of the same question.
 
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