Is Wild Game halal?

[DanyalSAC]

Asalaamu alaikum -

My cousin and uncle back home in Alaska sent me about 15 lbs of moose meat. Now, I've done some checking and most of what I've found tells me this is halal.

I read that if its one of the allowable animals and it is capable of flying or running away when it was shot then its halal to hunt, if the bullet tore it (there's more involved here than that).

This is a moose... its a halal animal...it was shot by my cousin's husband who is Christian. It was bled - all large game like that is. I read that many jurists or scholars agree that an animal killed by a Christian or a Jew is considered halal.

Sooo... I've said Alhamdulillah! and am prepared to eat this with great joy and consider it halal. Would that be ok?

 

[BrotherInIslam7]

Asalaamu alaikum -

My cousin and uncle back home in Alaska sent me about 15 lbs of moose meat. Now, I've done some checking and most of what I've found tells me this is halal.

I read that if its one of the allowable animals and it is capable of flying or running away when it was shot then its halal to hunt, if the bullet tore it (there's more involved here than that).

This is a moose... its a halal animal...it was shot by my cousin's husband who is Christian. It was bled - all large game like that is. I read that many jurists or scholars agree that an animal killed by a Christian or a Jew is considered halal.

Sooo... I've said Alhamdulillah! and am prepared to eat this with great joy and consider it halal. Would that be ok?

dear respected brother,

I don't think I will be able to answer your question. It will be better to avoid eating it, until you have found a specific ruling from a fatwa committee or yourself are able to pose this question to a scholar.

I just posted to point out that, I don't think the below is true.

I read that many jurists or scholars agree that an animal killed by a Christian or a Jew is considered halal.

We are allowed to eat meat slaughtered by Jews and Chrisitians in the name of god. As far as I know, it doesn't mean that the person who kills it has to be a christian or a jew.

I hope you find a ruling from a fatwa committee soon Insha'Allah.

Edit : I have deleted a portion of my post as I found that it contained something contradictory to what I read on Islam Q&A.

Wasalaamalaikum waa rahmatullahi

 

[Muslimah-S]

Akhi have a read of this.
Hopefully it will clear things up, inshAllah.

Blood Sports ​

There are many Ahadith forbidding blood sports and the use of animals as targets, some of which are as follows:

The Prophet(s) condemned those people who take up anything alive as a mere sport." (Narrated by Abdullah bin 'Omar. Muslim, Vol. 3, Hadith No. 1958).
The Prophet(s) forbade blood sports, like the Bedouins. (Narrated by Abdullah Ibn Abbas. Awn, (Ref. No. 32); 8:15, Hadith No. 2603. Also 'Robson'; p. 876 (Ref. No. 15, but it does not mention 'Bedouins').

The Prophet said: 'Do not set up living creatures as a target'. (Narrated by Abdullah bin Abbas. Muslim Vol. 3, Hadith No. 1957. Also 'Robson'; p. 872 (Ref. No. 15).

The Prophet(s) condemned those who use a living creature as a target." (Narrated by Abdullah bin'Omar. Bukhari and Muslim. Also 'Robson' p. 872 (Ref. No. 15)).

The Prophet(s) forbade an animal being made a target." (Narrated by Anas. Recorded by Riyad. (Ref. No. 28); Hadith No. 1606; p. 272.

The Prophet(s) was reported as saying: 'Do not make anything having life as a target'." (Narrated by Ibn Abbas. Sahih Muslim - Kitab-us-Said Wa'dh-Dhaba'ih; Chapter DCCCXXII, Vol. III; Sh. Muhammad Ashraf, Lahore, Pakistan, 1976; Hadith No. 4813; p. 1079; (hereafter referred to as Kitab-us-Said).
Ibn 'Umar happened to pass by a party of men who had tied a hen and were shooting arrows at it. When they saw Ibn 'Umar coming, they scampered off. Ibn 'Umar angrily remarked: 'Who has done this? Verily! Allah's Messenger(s) has invoked a curse upon one who does this kind of thing. (id. Narrated by Said bin Jubair).

The Prophet(s) passed by some children who were shooting arrows at a ram. He told them off, saying: 'do not maim the poor beast'." (Narrated by Abdallah bin Ja'far. An-Nasai, 7:238).

The fact that these Ahadith repeat the same sayings of the Holy Prophet(s) in slightly varying wordings shows that he took the matter very seriously and repeated them again and again on different occasions in the presence of different people. Another significant point to note in this respect is that, to stop the use of animals as targets or in blood sport, the Holy Prophet(s) did the same as he did in the case of camel-humps and sheep-tails, quoted above. He declared their meat as Mujaththema and unlawful (haram) for consumption, according to the following Hadith:
God's Messenger(s) forbade eating a mujaththema {carrion} of a bird or animal set up and shot at as a target for shooting. (Narrated by Waqid al-Laithi. Abu al-Darda. Tirmidhi, Hadith No. 1473, Chapt. 'Al-At'imah'. Also 'Robson' (Ref. No.15); p. 874.

 

[DanyalSAC]

Thank you - I'll just ask my Imam after today's khutbah.

 

[DanyalSAC]

Akhi have a read of this.
Hopefully it will clear things up, inshAllah.

Blood Sports ​

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Well to me that speaks about target practice on a living animal, not hunting. These are domestic animals that they were shooting at. A tied hen or animals "set up as a target". This (to me) does not speak about hunting.

 

[Muslimah-S]

Well to me that speaks about target practice on a living animal, not hunting. These are domestic animals that they were shooting at. A tied hen or animals "set up as a target". This (to me) does not speak about hunting.

:salam2: akhi
When people hunt do they not target the animal when they kill them, such as a Wild bird (Pheasant) flying (as a target), they point the shotgun and at the right time they shoot?

The Prophet(s) condemned those people who take up anything alive as a mere sport."

(Narrated by Abdullah bin 'Omar. Muslim, Vol. 3, Hadith No. 1958).

Its best you do ask your local Imaan, as they have more knowledge.
Allah knows best.

 

[DanyalSAC]

Yes I will ask him, he has returned from Hajj this week. I find it hard to believe that Muslims are forbidden to eat anything other than domestic animals.

I found this - but there is nothing that states where it came from:

Hunting and Game Animals

* For game animals to be lawful, the hunter must be a Muslim or a member of the People of the Book. A Muslim cannot hunt while in the state of ihram.
* The hunter should not hunt merely for sport, meaning that he or she kills animals but has no intention to eat them or to otherwise benefit from them.
* The weapon should pierce the animal's body, making a wound, for death by impact (e.g., hitting a deer with a car) does not make it halal.
* The hunter must say Bismi'llah when hurling or striking with the weapon, or dispatching the hunting animal.
* If a dog, a falcon, or a similar animal is used, it should be a trained animal and catch the game animal only for its owner.

 

[DanyalSAC]

Ok so here we go... I asked 2 shuyuk at my masjid. The first one was shaykh Jamal Zarabozo. He's fairly well known, has written books, translated some from Arabic, and is all over YouTube. He said the ONLY problem would be the "hunter must say Bismillah" part mentioned above. But he also conceded that if someone were a member of the People of the Book they most likely would NOT say that. So he said as long as my family were devout in their faith (they are) and I said Bismillah before eating it (I do), I'm good.

The second person I asked was our masjid's imam. He didn't go into so much detail. As soon as I told him what the animal was, he said "Moose? Yes yes you can eat that. And invite your shaykh!" (meaning, of course, himself).

 

[BrotherInIslam7]

Ok so here we go... I asked 2 shuyuk at my masjid. The first one was shaykh Jamal Zarabozo. He's fairly well known, has written books, translated some from Arabic, and is all over YouTube. He said the ONLY problem would be the "hunter must say Bismillah" part mentioned above. But he also conceded that if someone were a member of the People of the Book they most likely would NOT say that. So he said as long as my family were devout in their faith (they are) and I said Bismillah before eating it (I do), I'm good.

The second person I asked was our masjid's imam. He didn't go into so much detail. As soon as I told him what the animal was, he said "Moose? Yes yes you can eat that. And invite your shaykh!" (meaning, of course, himself).

:salam2: akhi,

Thats funny now..

Alhumdulillah seems like you got your answer.. Jazakallah khayran for sharing with us..

Wasalaamalaikum waa rahmatullahi

 

[Muslimah-S]

:salam2: brother
JazzakAllah khair for letting us know, something new learnt. MashAllah.
Ive found this supporting what your Shayks have said:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/121239

But the second opinion ive found:

Whilst hunting is permitted in principle, it becomes prohibited under certain conditions. Ibn Taymiyyah pronounced: "Hunting out of necessity is permitted; if it is for fun and playing, it is detested; and if it causes injustice to people, by destroying their fields and property, it is prohibited." (al-Fatawa; vol. 4, p. 619)

Hunting should be done out of necessity; where necessity is defined in terms of need for food, where other means are not possible. One should also take into consideration hunting seasons and the kind and number of animals and birds allowed to be hunted. Hunting tools that cause great pain are prohibited. The latter include traps that lock on the leg of the animal causing pain and bleeding until the hunter returns, which could be for days!


Moreover, one should not take lightly the issue of killing, without any justification, even if the victim is a very small animal or bird. 'Abdullah Ibn 'Amr reported that the Prophet [S.A.W] said: "No human being kills a sparrow or [something] larger, without right, except that Allah will ask him about it (hold him responsible!) on the Day of Judgement." It was said: O Prophet of Allah! What is its right? He said: " Its right is that you slaughter it and eat it, not that you decapitate it!" (Al-Nasa'i, 7/ 207)

Allah knows best

 

[DanyalSAC]

Yes and the second opinin does not contradict the first. Just elaborates on it. But either way, coming from a culture as I do that hunts and fishes for subsistance, this was a good learning experience for me. Alhamdulillah.