"Islamic" Nasheed?? Think again!!! (Very very very Important)

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    i was about to ask the same thing after watching the video :astag:
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    Salams Brother , I have a problem youtube is blocked here any ideas how I can see the videos?
    W/salams
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    Walaikumussalam Wa Rahmatullah,
    If you were addressing me, I am a sister.

    The lecture can be downloaded in mp3 format from their site: http://www.onewaytoparadise.net/lectures.htm
    It is Lecture no. 56 under the "For Muslims" category.
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    Barakallahufiki Sister so sorry about that, thanks for the link, may Allah tal'aa reward you,
    Um Mustafa
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    Okay, question. This is stickied, but on TTI we have an ENTIRE section dedicated to Nasheeds. So that whole area is haram? Why would TTI sticky this but keep that section??

    EDIT: Haha, I see some people are thinking the same thing XD
    Like hayat84.
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    may be moderators have different opinion on that, although i doubt that cos the brother's reference is convincing enough to realize it is not recommended(if you dont want to see the word "Haraam") to listen to nasheed.

    May Allah guide us all. ameen.
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    As-salaamu `alaykum

    Answer: Difference of opinions. If the scholars disagree on this matter, then what about us? Mabsoot has the nasheed section and I believe another mod stickied this...

    In light of this lol, the least that can be said (by us) is that it's better to isolate the listening of them. Allaah knows best.
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    wa alaykkum assalaam wa rahmathullahi wa barakatuhu..

    it is the nasheed collection that attracted me to TTi..

    and it is through TTI that i learnt it is 'not recommended'. *SMILES*

    i agree with brother Al-Kashmiri... lets isolate ourselves in sha Allah.

    may Allah guide us to what is truth.
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    How come (some) muslims are willing to do anything just to please Allah such as leaving the haram, like not listening to music. There must be something special about this religion of islam.

    May Allah make it easy for us to rid our lives of this haraam things especially ribaa' because ribaa' constitutes war against Allah and his messenger.
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    The following question was raised to our Skaykh Muhammed Ibn Saaleh al-‘Uthaimeen (Rahimuhullaah):

    “What is the ruling concerning the anasheeds? Is it permissible for the Caller to Allah to listen to "Islamic anasheed"?”

    The Shaykh responded, “In the past, I listened in the past to these Islamic anasheed and there was nothing therein which shuns away. After listening to them recently, I found them to be rhythmic with delectation and entertaining, like the songs accompanied with musical instruments. Accordingly, I don’t see that it is permissible for people to listen to them. However, if they come natural without musical accompaniment and without delectation or entertainment, then there is no harm in listening to them. Still, however, it is conditional that:

    (i) the person does not make this a habit listening to them all the time, and
    (ii) make not that which benefits and admonishes the heart restricted to them.


    Because if he makes of this a habit, he will abandon that which is more important. Moreover, in doing so he will relinquish the greatest admonition and it is that which came in the Book of Allah and in the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger. But if he listens to them sometimes, or if takes them as a means of help on his journey while driving his care in the wilderness, then there is no harm in that."6

    Then he was asked, “Is it permissible for the man to chant the Islamic anasheed and is it permissible that the duff, which is the tambourine without any of these bells attached to it, is it permissible to use the duff with the chanting and is the chanting or the anasheed permissible in other than the Eed and other than the festivals?”

    The answer: “Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem, In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful”, then he returned the greeting to the person who asked the Question, and said: “The Islamic anasheed is an innovated chanting innovated by the Sufis. Therefore, one should turn away from it and resort to the admonitions from the Qur‘aan and Sunnah, unless it is used in the battlefields to help as a motivation for Jihaad in the cause of Allah, the Most High, then this is good, however, if it accompanied with the duff, then it would be far away from the truth.”7
    Moreover, on several occasions, he (rahimahullaah) directed the people to give the best of attention to the Qur'aan and Sunnah, since they are the greatest admonitions.
    A special warning concerning the infamous Burdah poem of Al-Busiri: It is plain shirk because it exaggerates the Prophet () giving him attributes of divinity, as if he knows the unseen and what is written in the preserved tablet. So much of this, unfortunately, is spread throughout the Muslim world and particularly in Southeast Asia, particularly in Indonesia. Think about it. Moreover, they have musical groups in these countries only specialized to sing these poems, especially the "Burdah". In some recent forms, it is "recited by Khalid Belrhouzi featuring Yusuf Islam (yes!) This is an ad on the net carrying the title:
    Burdah (audio tape) Khalid Belrhouzi and Yusuf
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    Now just in case a question might come up here someone might ask ...WAIT A MINUTE...why is the duff forbidden ?????

    Let me Explain Inshallah it will be understood


    TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS HADITH BELOW YOU!!
    Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions
    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 730

    Narrated 'Aisha:
    That during the Mina days, Abu Bakr came to her, while there where two girls with her, beating drums, and the Prophet was (lying) covering himself with his garment. Abu Bakr rebuked the two girls, but the Prophet uncovered his face and said, "O Abu Bakr! Leave them, for these are the days of Id (festival)." Those days were the days of Mina-. 'Aisha added, "I was being screened by the Prophet while I was watching the Ethiopians playing in the Mosque. 'Umar rebuked them, but the Prophet said, "Leave them, O Bani Arfida! Play. (for) you are safe."
    -------------------------

    skiping directly to to...


    The Correct ruling Regarding the instrument “Duff” is that...

    ONLY Girls (who have not yet reached the age of puberty) can play the Duff. Other than that the Duff is not permissible to be played by anyone else.
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    Let us Bring that fatwa which is on islamqa out in the open ..so we can examine it !!! Inshallah the matter will be clear about the daff

    When is it permissible to beat the daff?
    This question is about the instrument called "the duff". This is, I believe the only instrument that was made halal for muslims to listen to. Recently I have read that there are restrictions to listening to it, such as, only women can liten to it, it should only be played at weddings and 'Eid and that in all other circumstances it is Haram. The places where I read this didn't really have any proofs or evidences. Are these true restructions and are there any more?.


    Praise be to Allaah.

    Firstly:

    Al-Bukhaari narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There will be among my ummah people who will regard adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments as permissible.”

    This hadeeth indicates that all musical instruments are haraam, including the daff.

    ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The daff is haraam, stringed instruments are haraam, drums are haraam and flutes are haraam. Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 10/222

    But there are some ahaadeeth which indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in some circumstances, which are:

    Eid, weddings, and when one who has been away returns.


    (Now Cloosly here akhie)
    The evidence is given below.

    1 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) entered upon her and there were two girls with her during the days of Mina beating the daff, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was covering himself with his garment. Abu Bakr rebuked them, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) uncovered his face and said, “Leave them alone, O Abu Bakr, for these are the days of Eid.” That was during the days of Mina.



    Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 944; Muslim, 892

    2 – It was narrated that al-Rubayyi’ bint Mu’awwidh ibn ‘Afra’ said: “After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the daff and reciting verses mourning my father, who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, ‘Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow.’ On that the Prophet said, ‘Omit this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before.’”

    (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4852).

    3 – It was narrated that Buraydah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out on one of his military campaigns, and when he came back, a black slave woman came and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I vowed that if Allaah brought you back safe and sound, I would beat the daff before you and sing. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “If you vowed that, then do it, otherwise do not do it.’” So she started to beat the daff, and Abu Bakr came in whilst she was doing so. Then ‘Ali came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Uthmaan came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Umar came in and she threw the daff beneath her and sat on it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The Shaytaan is afraid of you, O ‘Umar. I was sitting and she was beating the daff, then Abu Bakr came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Ali came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Uthmaan came in when she was beating the daff, but when you came in, O ‘Umar, she put the daff down.”

    Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3690; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2913.

    These ahaadeeth indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in these three situations. Apart from that, the principle remains that it is haraam. Some scholars made the matter broader and said that it is permissible to beat the daff when a child is born and when he is circumcised; others take the matter further and say that it is permissible on all occasions that are a cause for expressing joy, such as the recovery of a sick person and the like.

    See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 38/169

    But it is better to limit ourselves to what was narrated in the text. And Allaah knows best.
    Secondly:

    The correct view is that it is not permissible to beat the daff except for women. If a man does that, he is imitating women, which is a major sin.

    Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah – may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    In general, it is a well known principle of the Islamic religion that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not prescribe that the righteous men, devoted worshippers and ascetics of this ummah should gather to listen to verses of poetry chanted to the accompaniment of handclapping, rhythm sticks or daffs. It is not permissible for anyone to go beyond the limits of Islam and follow something other than that which was narrated in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, whether that has to do with inward matters or outward, whether for the common man or the elite. But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted a concession for some kinds of entertainment on the occasion of weddings and the like, and he also granted a concession to women allowing them to beat the daff at weddings and on other joyous occasions. But with regard to the men of his time, none of them used to beat the daff or clap his hands, rather it was proven in al-Saheeh that he said, ‘Clapping is for women, and Tasbeeh is for men,’ and he cursed women who imitate men and men who imitate women.

    Because singing, beating the daff and clapping the hands are actions of women, the salaf used to call a man who did that mukhannath (effeminate), and they used to call male singers makhaaneeth (pl. of mukhannath). This is well known.

    Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 11/565, 566

    Ibn Hajar said:

    The strong (qawiy) ahaadeeth indicate that this is permissible for women, but that does not include men, because of the general meaning of the prohibition on men imitating women.

    Fath al-Baari, 9/226

    Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    Rather the concession allowing women to use the daff is for them only. With regard to men, it is not permissible for them to do any of that, whether on weddings or on other occasions. Rather Allaah has prescribed for men to train in the instruments of war and skills needed for battle, such as shooting and horse riding, and competing in that.

    Majallat al-Jaami’ah al-Islamiyyah (Magazine of the Islamic University in al-Madeenah al-Munawwarah), 3rd edition, 2nd year, Muharram, 1390 AH, p. 185, 186

    And he also said:

    With regard to weddings, it is prescribed to beat the daff and sing regular songs which do not call for or praise anything that is haraam. This is to be done at night, by women only, to announce the wedding and to emphasize the difference between this legitimate marriage and zina (adultery) which is done in secret, as was narrated in the saheeh Sunnah from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

    Al-Tabarruj wa Khataruhu (Wanton display and its dangers)

    And Allaah knows best.

    -----------------------


    1.THis Fatawa is Makeing it clear the MEN CAN NOT PLAY THE DAFF ...



    2.I did more research on this matter and had a talk with some people as to what kind of women is allowed to play a duff.. is an elderly women alowed . and based upon evidence for a women to play the daff

    The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “If you vowed that, then do it, otherwise do not do it

    this indicates the importance of fulfilling a "vow"

    and the Evidence that little girls can play it is strong and has no doubt

    The Correct ruling which i got Regarding the instrument “Duff” is that...

    ONLY Girls (who have not yet reached the age of puberty) can play the Duff. Other than that the Duff is not permissible to be played by anyone else.


    And Allah knows best.

    i am sure you know the hadith on doubtful matters. iman is that when there is a mattter in which there a doubt ..one should leave that act !
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    asalamualikum, i just wanted to clerify something. iv heard the talk, and thought it was a great talk. but why do nearly ALLL top scholers allow nasheed? are they all wrong?, why do all islamic medias allow nasheed? are they ALL wrong? it confuses me when im seeing nasheeds in the IRF concerts in india, were there contain some of the most knowledgable scholers from around the world, they allow nasheed. so im confused.but that brother has good points.mashallah good talk.
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    one more thing i wanted to ask, seems as if we have to even change our islamic schooling system if nasheeds are haram, becouse nearly ALL I REPEAT ALL, islamic school kids are tought to sing nasheeds.like when they do presentations etc.

    .........
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    Allhumdulillah, Assalat wa salam ala rasool allah

    INSHALLAH this will answer you dear brother in faith. May Allah have mercy on you please read carefully.

    FATWA No.91142

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Firstly:

    Nasheeds have changed from what they were at first.

    Unfortunately nasheeds and munshids (nasheed-“singers”) have sunk to this level. Whereas nasheeds used to have meanings of faith, jihad and knowledge, they have now – in many cases – become akin to the songs of evildoers, with softening of the voice, putting a picture of the munshid on the cover of the tape, and making video clips to accompany the nasheed, which contain haraam things such as the presence of women or evildoers, and using musical instruments. The best of them nowadays are those that use sound effects that mimic the sound of musical instruments. No attention is paid to the meaning, rather all the attention is focused on the tune and other sound effects. Otherwise tell me how a munshid can produce a nasheed in English which the [Arab] listeners enjoy listening to so much even though they do not understand a single word of it?!

    Nasheeds have overtaken other kinds of educational and beneficial audio material and nasheed groups have proliferated in the Muslim world. These groups do not hesitate to publish pictures of their groups in newspapers and magazines wearing identical clothing, and their faces often proclaim their going against the guidance of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as they have shaved their beards. Some Qur’aan readers whom Allaah has blessed with beautiful voices and talent in reading that makes one weep have followed in their footsteps. Some of them became very keen to go down that path and released some recordings which do not befit their status. So you may find one of them producing a recording with some clean-shaven evildoers and pictures of women appearing in the video clip with the nasheed. The camera zooms in on the face of the munshid when he is looking his best and he stares soulfully into the camera and behaves like a pop singer.

    We are not exaggerating, and we are not talking about things that do not happen. These munshids who publish their pictures and mobile phone numbers know that women are tempted by them, and they know what effect their movements and looks and images have on that weak section of mankind. Unfortunately we only see them producing more of these nasheeds with images.

    Hence some of the prominent Shaykhs who permitted nasheeds at first were upset by what nasheeds and munshids have become – and this was before they found out about the video clips – so they retracted the view that it is permissible or they stipulated conditions for it to be said to be permissible. Among these prominent Shaykhs are: Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him).

    1. He said (may Allaah have mercy on him):

    I think that Islamic nasheeds have changed from what they were before. They were done with voices that were not enchanting, but now they are done with enchanting voices, and they are also accompanied by evil and corrupting tunes and they say that they are accompanied by the duff, but all of this means that one should keep away from these nasheeds. But if a man comes to us and sings anaasheed that have a sound meaning, and which do not include any nonsense, and uses his voice only with no musical instruments, there is nothing wrong with that. Hassaan ibn Thaabit used to recite poetry in the mosque of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

    Duroos wa Fataawa al-Haram al-Madani, 1416 AH, question no. 18.

    2. He also said (may Allaah have mercy on him):

    There has been a lot of talk about Islamic nasheeds. I have not listened to them for a long time. When they first appeared there was nothing wrong with them. There were no duffs, and they were performed in a manner that did not involve any fitnah, and they were not performed with the tunes of haraam songs. But then they changed and we began to hear a rhythm that may have been a duff or it may have been something other than a duff, and they began to choose performers with beautiful and enchanting voices, then they changed further and began to be performed in the manner of haraam songs. Hence we began to feel uneasy about them, and unable to issue fatwas stating that they were permissible in all cases, or that they were forbidden in all cases. If they are free of the things that I have referred to then they are permissible, but if they are accompanied by the duff or performers are chosen who have beautiful and enchanting voices, or they are performed in the manner of indecent songs, then it is not permissible to listen to them.

    Al-Sahwah al-Islamiyyah (p. 185).

    3. Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    As for that which is called Islamic nasheeds, they have been given more time and effort than they deserve, to such an extent that they have become an art form which takes up space in school curricula and school activities, and the recording companies record huge numbers of them to sell and distribute, and most houses are full of them, and many young men and women listen to them, and it takes up a lot of their time, and they are listened to more than recordings of Qur’aan, Sunnah, lectures and useful lessons.

    Al-Bayaan li Akhta’ Ba’d al-Kuttaab (p. 342).

    4. Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    I remember full well that when I was in Damascus, two years before I migrated here to ‘Ammaan, some of the Muslim youth started to sing some anaasheed that had sound meanings, intending thereby to counteract the Sufi songs like the Busayri poems and others, and they recorded that on tapes, but soon it was accompanied by beating the duff! At first they used it in wedding parties, on the basis that the duff is permissible in such parties, then the tapes became widespread and copies were made of them, and they started to be used in many homes, and they started to listen to them day and night, whether there was an occasion or not. That became their way of relaxing. But that is due only to their whims and desires and their ignorance of the shaytaan’s tricks, so he diverted them from paying attention to the Qur’aan and listening to it, let alone studying it, and it became forsaken by them, as it says in the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “And the Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) will say: ‘O my Lord! Verily, my people deserted this Qur’aan (neither listened to it nor acted on its laws and teachings)’” [al-Furqaan 25:30].

    Tahreem Aalaat al-Tarb (p. 181, 182).

    It is regrettable that some of those who appoint themselves to issue fatwas have reached such a level that they issues fatwas to adult women allowing them to perform nasheed in front of men, and even on satellite channels in front of millions, and these female performers use musical instruments which are forbidden in sharee’ah, but are permitted by this so-called mufti.

    Secondly:

    The guidelines and conditions of permissible nasheeds:
    By studying the words of the scholars and trustworthy Shaykhs we may compile a list of guidelines and shar’i conditions which must be fulfilled for the nasheed to be permissible. That includes:

    1. The words of the nasheed must be free of haraam and foolish words.

    2. The nasheed should not be accompanied by musical instruments. No musical instrument is permitted except the duff for women on certain occasions. See the answer to question no. 20406.

    3. It should be free of sound effects that imitate musical instruments, because what counts is what appears to be the case, and imitating haraam instruments is not permissible, especially when the bad effect is the same as that which happens with real instruments.

    4. Listening to nasheed should not become a habit which takes up a person’s time and affects his duties and mustahabb actions, such as affecting his reading of Qur’aan and calling others to Allaah.

    5. The performer of a nasheed should not be a woman performing in front of men, or a man with an enchanting appearance or voice performing in front of women.

    6. One should avoid listening to performers with soft voices who move their bodies in rhythm, because there is fitnah in all of that and it is an imitation of the evildoers.

    7. One should avoid the images that are put on the covers of their tapes, and more important than that, one should avoid the video clips that accompany their nasheeds, especially those which contain provocative movements and imitations of immoral singers.

    8. The purpose of the nasheed should be the words, not the tune.

    There follow some of the comments of the scholars which include the guidelines and conditions mentioned above.
    1. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    To sum up, what is well known in the Islamic religion is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not prescribe for the righteous, devoted worshippers and ascetics of his ummah to gather to listen to poetic verses recited to the accompaniment of clapping or the beating of a duff. It is not permissible for anyone to deviate from following him and following that which he brought of the Book and wisdom, whether that has to do with inward or outward matters, either for an ordinary man or a member of the elite. But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted concessions allowing some kinds of entertainment in weddings and the like, and he allowed women to beat the duff during weddings and other celebrations.

    As for the men of his era, not one of them used to beat the duff or clap, rather it is proven in al-Saheeh that he said: “Clapping is for women, and tasbeeh is for men” and he cursed the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women.

    Because singing, beating the duff and clapping are things that women do, the salaf used to call a man who did those things effeminate, and they called men who sang effeminate, and this is well known among their sayings. End quote.

    Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (11/565, 566).

    2. Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    Islamic anasheed vary. If they are sound and contain nothing but calling people to what is good, and reminding them of what is good, and obedience to Allaah and His Messenger, and calling people to defend their homelands against the plots of the enemy, and preparing to face the enemy and so on, there is nothing wrong with that. But if they are something other than that, and they promote sin and and are performed before mixed audiences of men and women, or audiences in which women are uncovered in the presence of men, or any other evil action, then it is not permissible to listen to them. End quote.

    Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz (3/437).

    3. He also said (may Allaah have mercy on him):

    Islamic nasheeds are like poetry: if it is sound then it is sound and if there is anything objectionable in it then it is objectionable.

    The conclusion is that you cannot pass one judgement on all types of nasheed, rather each should be examined on its own merits. There is nothing wrong with sound nasheeds, but nasheeds which contain anything objectionable or promote anything objectionable are objectionable and evil. End quote.

    Shareet As’ilah wa Ajwabah al-Jaami’ al-Kabeer (no. 90/A).

    4. The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas said:

    It is permissible for you to replace these songs with Islamic nasheeds which contain words of wisdom and exhortation and lessons, which promote keenness to follow Islam and invoke Islamic feelings, which put one off evil and the things that promote it, and which motivate the one who “sings” them and the one who hears them to obey Allaah and discourage them to disobey Him or transgress His limits; they make one keen to protect His sharee’ah and strive in jihad for His sake. But you should not take that as a habit which one persists in, rather that should be something that is done only sometimes, on special occasions such as weddings or when travelling for jihad and so on, and when one feels low, in order to revive the spirit and motivate oneself to do good, or when one feels inclined towards evil, so listening to such nasheeds may ward that off. End quote.

    Fataawa Islamiyyah (4/533); we have quoted the fatwa in full in the answer to question no. 47996 and 67925.

    5. Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    There may be another sin involved in that [i.e., nasheeds], which is that they may be performed in the manner of immoral songs and performed according to the rules of eastern or western music which makes the listeners enjoy it and makes them dance and behave in a foolish manner. So the aim becomes the tune and the enjoyment thereof, and not nasheed per se. This is a new error, and it is an imitation of the kuffaar and immoral people. That may lead to a further error, which is imitating them in turning away from the Qur’aan and forsaking it, and being included in the general meaning of the complaint of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And the Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) will say: ‘O my Lord! Verily, my people deserted this Qur’aan (neither listened to it nor acted on its laws and teachings)’” [al-Furqaan 25:30]. End quote from Tahreem Alaat al-Tarb (p. 181).

    6. He also said:

    If these anaasheed contain Islamic meanings and are not accompanied by any instruments such as the daff, tablah drum and so on, then there is nothing wrong with them, but we must point out an important condition of their being permissible, which is that they should be free of anything that goes against sharee’ah, such as exaggeration and the like. Then there is another condition, which is that they should not become a habit, because that distracts the listeners from reading Qur’aan which is encouraged in the Sunnah, and it also distracts them from seeking beneficial knowledge and calling people to Allaah. End quote.

    Majallat al-Asaalah (issue no. 2, 15 Jumaada al-Aakhirah 1413 AH).

    7. In the answer to question no. 11563 we mentioned a number of guidelines, which we will mention again here, because they are useful:

    Not using forbidden musical instruments in nasheed.

    Not doing it too much or making it the focus of the Muslim’s mind, occupying all his time, or neglecting obligatory duties because of it.

    Nasheed should not be recited by women, or include haraam or obscene speech.

    They should not resemble the tunes of the people of immorality and promiscuity.

    They should be free of vocal effects that produce sounds like those of musical instruments.

    They should not have moving tunes which make the listener feel “high” as happens to those who listen to songs. This is the case with many of the nasheeds which appear nowadays, so that the listeners no longer pay any attention to the good meaning of the words, because they are so entranced by the tunes.

    We have too high an opinion of our brothers who perform nasheeds and recite Qur’aan to think that they could be a cause of fitnah for young men and women, and a cause of their being distracted from obedience to Allaah. They know how great an effect their voices and pictures may have on males and females; if you go to chat rooms you will see very weird things. You will see a woman who is infatuated with a munshid or one who cannot sleep unless she is listening to the voice of So and so, and those who call themselves ‘aashiqat fulaan (lover of So and so – a munshid) and you see men and women venerating those munshids, giving them titles and high status, even though some of them are not religiously committed at all, and some of them have fallen into the trap of singing immoral songs, and if you go to some websites that have these nasheeds, you will be surprised at how often these nasheeds are downloaded and how many people have no interest in listening to Qur’aan and useful lectures.

    We ask Allaah to set the affairs of all of us straight.

    And Allaah knows best.


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    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/91142/nasheed
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    i have one thing to say, the way i interperted the ayah used, is that it says for amusment or entertainment. there is a difference between entertaining and enlightening. When i listen to nasheeds there constant reminders, of remembering how the prophet was or about the muslims suffereing around the world etc... its not for entertaiment, maybe i do get entertained by the music, but listening to just instruments is not going to cause me to do haram or misguiding...it could if i stop listeing to Quran. I guess this is the only reason people can argue against nasheeds. Nasheeds are not for entertainment, that not what people made them for, just like a knife, the person who made it made it to cut stuff, not to kill people. How many of us when we listen a nasheed we start thinking about what there saying? this is the opposite of what the ayah is saying. Listening to music at a wedding is for entertainment. All these hadiths that hes using he has to explain the time they were used at. did they have nasheeds back then??? To my knowledge they didnt and all there music was for entertainment. So how can you compare these hadiths to are time?? Also if it was going to become a huge issue like it is today Allah would have written clearly to us that saying or singing Islamic stuff with music instruments is haram, This ayah does not say that. THe ayah talks about misleading and there doing the opposite, my sister watched the song the chosen one by maher zain and she started asking me about all the things the Prophet use to do. There using a way to get to youth, becz we know that youth barly go to mosques or go search up islamic videos.

    i dont know thats my 2 cents i would love to get some replies
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    :salam2: i think this topic is a controvercial topic umongst scholers, some say nassheeds are allowed, as it helps people to get closer to islam, then on the other hand some say its not allowed, and they also have a point.

    through my experiance, when i listen to nasheeds i tend to think about allah and our propthet (pbuh) alot more, surely this has to be a good thing? and this leads me to do certain good things.

    and also thats what i thought the same, the youth who are into music alot (i.e raps etc, western music), its always hard for them to leave music totally, so isnt nasheed one way to get them away slowly from them western music? i am talking through experiance, as i have seen nasheeds helping brothers and sisters getting abit closer to islam...its just my opinion, and i think scholers are split up in this topic. allah knows best.
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    I failed,when listening to the melodious voice of a good nasheed I felt a shiver during the pronounciation of certain words and I listened it twice because I liked the nasheed's voice.I lost my direction for a moment,and now I realized the words of this sheikh,may Allah reward him for his words.and the thing which leaves me without words is that I don't feel bored without music,instead,I feel calm...many times,if something is judged as good one for our minds,is indeed bad for our souls,so allah has right,when He says that He knows,while we don't know:astag:
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    is really music not legal in Islam?as new revert,how is it possible for me to leave all the music I listen?it makes me company and I have a mountain of cds,what is allowed to do in islam,if also music is forbidden?I worked in discoteque as barman,I got amused from that psychedelic music.why Islam forbids what is pleasant?I ask just to have more answers,I don't know how to behave.should I throw all my music in the trash?

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