Nasara/Christians

sazk

Banned
a roman muslim is a muslim of the byzantium empire in the present. an european or an american muslim to be exact. the first generation of muslims is always serious. its the later ones i worry about. the thing i worry about is that Allah has promised to protect the Quran but no explicit promise has been made for the Hadeeth. We need both to guide us.
 

mhamzah

Junior Member
maybe you should write him a letter asking him that now he should research Islam the way he did christianity.

Apparently Bart Erham is a good friend of Eddie (of the deenshow).
 

BigAk

Junior Member
maybe you should write him a letter asking him that now he should research Islam the way he did christianity.

Apparently Bart Erham is a good friend of Eddie (of the deenshow).

Really??? Wow. .. I didn't know that.... Eddie is a great host on the Deen Show and I love his website.. He's also very good at returning my emails to him... It would be a good idea to ask Eddie about Bart Ehrman... Mr. Ehrman lives in my state of NC in Durham and teaches in UNC... about 1/2 hour drive from where I live.. LOL

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Rashadi

Junior Member
maybe you should write him a letter asking him that now he should research Islam the way he did christianity.

Apparently Bart Erham is a good friend of Eddie (of the deenshow).

I didn't know about Eddie because from what I heard he tried to invite him on his show but he refused to come. Yusuf Estes has also invited him on his program many times but he refuses and wants no part in religion. He just doesn't believe in an idea of God revealing books and he has issues with preservation of scriptures and few other things. I know he is friends with Joshuah Evans but I am not sure about Eddie from the deen show. I wish he would at least take a look at the Quran, its history and authenticity. I wish he would open up his mind and study Islam. I know he is heartbroken after losing faith and it's tough to do recover from that. May Allah guide him, ameen, and may Allah reward Eddie for his amazing effort in presenting Islam from its source, ameen.
 

sazk

Banned
he's broken. something he had a lot of faith in .. has vanished. someone should knock on his door and say "u've researched christianity and found half the truth, now how about you research islam on your own, and complete the other half."
 

kashif_nazeer

~~~Alhamdulillah~~~
“I saw him apparently being seized by them. And I said, “what am I seeing, O Lord? Is it really you whom they take? And are you holding on to me? And are they hammering the feet and hands of another? The Savior said to me, “He whom you saw being glad and laughing above the cross is the Living Jesus. But he into whose hands and feet they are driving the nails is his fleshy part, which is THE substitute. They put to shame that which remained in his LIKENESS. And look at him, and [look at] me!” (Apocalypse of Peter)

There is another tradition from this collection that reads:

“...It was another who drank the gall and vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was ANOTHER, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was ANOTHER upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. BUT I was rejoicing in the height over...their error...AND I WAS LAUGHING at their ignorance.” (The Second Treatise of The Great Seth).

Subhanallah!:eek:
Such a clear evidence ,yet they deny it.
Is it from the new testement akhi?
Forgive my ignorance I dont know much about Biblical texts.
 

Rashadi

Junior Member
Subhanallah!:eek:
Such a clear evidence ,yet they deny it.
Is it from the new testement akhi?
Forgive my ignorance I dont know much about Biblical texts.
No akhi these books were not given a place in the Bible. The people who owned these writings and shared these ideas were killed for their beliefs. They were just recently discovered but they contradict Christianity of today.
 

kashif_nazeer

~~~Alhamdulillah~~~
No akhi these books were not given a place in the Bible. The people who owned these writings and shared these ideas were killed for their beliefs. They were just recently discovered but they contradict Christianity of today.

Oh ok..
jazakallah khayr
wassalamu 'alykum
 

Almeftah

Junior Member
السلام عليكم

Mashallah, Brother Rashadi you seam to be very knowledgeable.. I totally agree with you.
 

BigAk

Junior Member
I didn't know about Eddie because from what I heard he tried to invite him on his show but he refused to come. Yusuf Estes has also invited him on his program many times but he refuses and wants no part in religion. He just doesn't believe in an idea of God revealing books and he has issues with preservation of scriptures and few other things. I know he is friends with Joshuah Evans but I am not sure about Eddie from the deen show. I wish he would at least take a look at the Quran, its history and authenticity. I wish he would open up his mind and study Islam. I know he is heartbroken after losing faith and it's tough to do recover from that. May Allah guide him, ameen, and may Allah reward Eddie for his amazing effort in presenting Islam from its source, ameen.

Subhan Allah.. I was just thinking about this same issue with Ehrman as I was commuting my 35min to work this morning. Then, something popped in my head. Dr. Ehrman lives a very comfortable and happy life as he claims in his book Misquoting Jesus at the Q&A section. I thought that in order for him to act on finding faith again, it would take a really hard catastrophe in his life or a very trying life segment during which he would have nowhere to turn except towards his Creator. Only then, the chance of finding Allah and Islam is at its greatest.. Of course Allah A3lam about this.... But, at least that's what popped in my simple head.

On the other hand, there could be a very valid reason as to why Allah has not lead this man Dr. Ehrman to Islam and there's wisdom in it. For instance; currently Dr. Ehrman's book occupies a great level of popularity among the western nation and it's rated on top of the list in Amazon etc... Can you imagine what the reaction of the new perspective western reader would be if they found that Ehrman had embraced Islam?? Many will probably change their mind about reading the book due to their prejudice... Again; Allah A3lam.

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sazk

Banned
:salam2:

this sort of thing... a disbelief in christianity is very common here in the uk as well...unfortunately this is how ppl's logic works:

the bible has been proved to be false.. or the bible has many questionable things... therefore all religious scriptures must be false.

then these ppl shut their minds off at the mention of God, or religion, or Word of God.

n thus they become secular/agnostic

then they don't even listen about any other religion.
 
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