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I have just seen this video. All I can say about this video is that it is pure propaganda aimed at reinforcing the lie that YESHUA did not die. Nor was he not the son of God. I regard this as slander and an insult to YESHUA himself.[yt]tWKQioVNtnY[/yt]
I have just seen this video. All I can say about this video is that it is pure propaganda aimed at reinforcing the lie that YESHUA did not die. Nor was he not the son of God. I regard this as slander and an insult to YESHUA himself.
If this is not slander, then it is incumbent on the Islamic fraternity to disprove beyond all shadow of doubt that the events as related in the scriptures are a lie.
From what I have read in thre Qur'an,it neither confirms nor denies the crucifixion. As a non muslim I believe what the Qur'an literally says and not the deliberate and intentional bias of this misguided auther of this video. He clearly shows disrespect for the christions who passionately believe in the son of God, just as you are passionate sbout prophet mohammed.
As a mark of respect for other religions, why don't we agree to disagree? That way we can focus on our Almighty whom we all passionately desire to serve. Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus etc. No exceptions. It is our duty as human beings to love one another and not show enmity because we THINK we all have the perfect religion. God is not religious - he is our creator and HE will judge us according to our deeds and not our religious affiliations. This is even stated in the Holy Qur'an.
I have just seen this video. All I can say about this video is that it is pure propaganda aimed at reinforcing the lie that YESHUA did not die. Nor was he not the son of God. I regard this as slander and an insult to YESHUA himself.
If this is not slander, then it is incumbent on the Islamic fraternity to disprove beyond all shadow of doubt that the events as related in the scriptures are a lie.
From what I have read in thre Qur'an,it neither confirms nor denies the crucifixion. As a non muslim I believe what the Qur'an literally says and not the deliberate and intentional bias of this misguided auther of this video. He clearly shows disrespect for the christions who passionately believe in the son of God, just as you are passionate sbout prophet mohammed.
As a mark of respect for other religions, why don't we agree to disagree? That way we can focus on our Almighty whom we all passionately desire to serve. Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus etc. No exceptions. It is our duty as human beings to love one another and not show enmity because we THINK we all have the perfect religion. God is not religious - he is our creator and HE will judge us according to our deeds and not our religious affiliations. This is even stated in the Holy Qur'an.
By the way We love Jesus more than you love him. have you seen the cigaret ads, well they put Jesus's picture their.....that's DISRESPECTFUL, FOOLISH, AND DUMB. LOOK BACK AT YOUR OWN RELIGION AND SEE. NO OFFENSEThe video is not about disrespecting your religion, it is just showing you the truth about what you worship. We love Jesus, we not only believe but we know he was the Messenger of God. He was given birth to by his Mother Mary, he was born like the human beings are born......think, how could he be God? Do you think Bush is a God....hell no!! because he was born like you were, he is no greater than you. I mean the trinity thing....i don't think any christian can explain that...because it is confusing to the christians themselves. God cannot be killed.......if he is almighty how can he be killed? use your common sense, this is not propaganda.
I have just seen this video. All I can say about this video is that it is pure propaganda aimed at reinforcing the lie that YESHUA did not die. Nor was he not the son of God. I regard this as slander and an insult to YESHUA himself.
If this is not slander, then it is incumbent on the Islamic fraternity to disprove beyond all shadow of doubt that the events as related in the scriptures are a lie.
From what I have read in thre Qur'an,it neither confirms nor denies the crucifixion. As a non muslim I believe what the Qur'an literally says and not the deliberate and intentional bias of this misguided auther of this video. He clearly shows disrespect for the christions who passionately believe in the son of God, just as you are passionate sbout prophet mohammed.
As a mark of respect for other religions, why don't we agree to disagree? That way we can focus on our Almighty whom we all passionately desire to serve. Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus etc. No exceptions. It is our duty as human beings to love one another and not show enmity because we THINK we all have the perfect religion. God is not religious - he is our creator and HE will judge us according to our deeds and not our religious affiliations. This is even stated in the Holy Qur'an.
With the greatest respect to you sir, I did not refuse to read the Qur'an with an open mind and a clear heart.Often people do not see what is right in front of their eyes. BG refuses to read the Quran with an open mind and a clear heart. He wants to dismiss it if he can. He wants it to confirm what he believes rather than guide him to what he's missing.
. Thank you ayman for your information.Incorrect. You left out in your translation two key words, "Before his death!" (Qabla Mawtih) This verse tells us that when Jesus peace be upon him returns to correct once and for all the wrong beliefs about him, all Jews and Christians will believe in him and follow the straight path of Islam. Jesus will rule for a while and then die a normal death.
In Chapter 5, God tells us how He will ask Jesus on the Day of Judgment, "Did you tell people to take you and your mother as gods beneath God?" Jesus will say "May You be sanctified! I could not say something I was not authorized to say." (5:116) Jesus then says "I only told them what You commanded me to tell them: to worship God, my Lord and their Lord." (5:117) In the same verse, Jesus says to God that he was watching people as long as he was among them and when God called him up to Him, God watched them.
It is out of the boundless grace of God that He will send Jesus back to earth to give the Christians and Jews a final chance to correct their blasphemies. But who can guarantee to be alive when that happens to take advantage of it?
The Qur'an I have was kindly donated to me by a muslim with whom I had an informative discussion at Speakers Corner. He came across as a genuine and pleasant and friendly person, so I have no reason to believe that he gave me a fraudulent book. Why would he? And from a non muslim perspective how am I to know whether or not, if a Qur'an is authentic or fraudulent.Then you're getting your information about Islam from a mediocre, if not fraudulent translation. Search the archives of this forum for reliable translations, such as Yusuf Ali's.
How am I a non muslim and billions of other non muslims supposed to know that. Also, are we all expected to learn Arabic in order to fully understand the Qur'an?Quran is always authentic. Translations of it are not necessarily so. Only the original Arabic text can be called Quran. It's very easy to tell if a translation is not authentic: You compare the translation with the original Arabic text. A translation that mistranslates words or phrases or removes words from translation are negligent at best and deliberately misleading at worst.
.Hi there ayman. Just reading your post and trying to reconcile a few problems I have.Incorrect. You left out in your translation two key words, "Before his death!" (Qabla Mawtih) This verse tells us that when Jesus peace be upon him returns to correct once and for all the wrong beliefs about him, all Jews and Christians will believe in him and follow the straight path of Islam. Jesus will rule for a while and then die a normal death.
In Chapter 5, God tells us how He will ask Jesus on the Day of Judgment, "Did you tell people to take you and your mother as gods beneath God?" Jesus will say "May You be sanctified! I could not say something I was not authorized to say." (5:116) Jesus then says "I only told them what You commanded me to tell them: to worship God, my Lord and their Lord." (5:117) In the same verse, Jesus says to God that he was watching people as long as he was among them and when God called him up to Him, God watched them.
It is out of the boundless grace of God that He will send Jesus back to earth to give the Christians and Jews a final chance to correct their blasphemies. But who can guarantee to be alive when that happens to take advantage of it?