Question...

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
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Asalamu Alykum,

Inshallah everyone is in good health.

The question was, for the last few weeks after the Jumu'ah prayer, when you pray 4 rakats and then 2 rakats, quite a few people read it quickly and by the time they have finished i have just finished reading the 4 rakats. Now what im asking is can i pray the way i am even though i will miss the Dua by the imam (i think) at the end. Because i cant pray quickly as its untidy. Inshallah someone can answer this for me.

Also when praying at home, when going down for rukoo i raise my hands and when rising from rukoo i raise my hands. Also when rising from the second sujood and standing i raise my hands only. Is This Okay?

This is because i have not seen anyone do this at the Mosque and I am afraid to do it because people may think its wrong or something.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam
 

Al-Kashmiri

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Also when praying at home, when going down for rukoo i raise my hands and when rising from rukoo i raise my hands. Also when rising from the second sujood and standing i raise my hands only. Is This Okay?

:wasalam:

That is fine, and in accordance with some ahaadeeth reported in Sahih al-Bukhari. Not seeing something done at the mosque doesn't mean it is wrong. In my local masjid, only a small fraction of the people raise their hands. In another masjid not too far away, a fraction of people do not raise their hands.

As for the du`aa after the salaah, then from what I know, there is no obligation to listen to it. In fact, contrary to this a fatwa has been issued by the scholars wherein they said,

"Congregational supplication after the obligatory prayers is not a Sunnah if it involves raising the hands, whether it be from the Imam alone or the one led in prayer alone, or from both of them; in fact, it is an innovation. because it has not been transmitted from the Prophet, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, nor from his companions, radiy Allaahu `anhum. As for supplication without raising the hands, there is no objection to it, because some ahadeeth have been reported to that effect." [The Permanent Committee, taken from Fatawa Islamiyah vol.2, pg 261-262]​
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Thats good to hear, Inshallah i will continue to do that then. (EDIT) I didnt know that the Dua at the end was an innovation, but people continue to do it. Are they committing sin?

I forgot to ask, i know that excessive moving invalidates the prayer, but what if you have an itch on your face, is it okay to itch? You see after reading excessive movement invalidates the prayer awhile back, i try not to move make any unnecessary movement.

Also when we have to cross the bridge of As-Sirat which will be laid across Hell and Inshallah we will pass it. Although the ones that fall in and just to skip a bit: "The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces."

So for example at the end of prayer i prostrate to Allah (S.W.T), will that be counted as a trace of prostration.

I know its a bit sketchy but Inshallah you will be able to make it out.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam


:wasalam:

That is fine, and in accordance with some ahaadeeth reported in Sahih al-Bukhari. Not seeing something done at the mosque doesn't mean it is wrong. In my local masjid, only a small fraction of the people raise their hands. In another masjid not too far away, a fraction of people do not raise their hands.
 

Al-Kashmiri

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Also when we have to cross the bridge of As-Sirat which will be laid across Hell and Inshallah we will pass it. Although the ones that fall in and just to skip a bit: "The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces."

So for example at the end of prayer i prostrate to Allah (S.W.T), will that be counted as a trace of prostration.

I don't know, and Allaah knows best. From what I learnt, I gathered that the meaning of recognizing them from the traces of prostations, refers to the marks that are often found around the nose's and forehead's of some Muslims. However, Shaykh `Uthaymeen, rahimahullaah said that those marks do not mean that somone is righteous or pious, rather radiance in their face does. May Allaah forgive me if I erred.

As for your other question about moving, then I will mention to you something I read which will be of benefit inshaa' Allaah, when I have a bit more time.

:wasalam:
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Inshallah answer when you can. Its me just asking too many questions, i should have asked awhile back but i didnt. I guess the question about As-Sirat was a bit too much to ask. Indeed Allah (S.W.T) knows best.

Oh, how rude of me, I forgot to say

Jazakallah Khair

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Baarak Allaah feek.

Whilst I am not one to say, "they are commiting sin", then Shaykh ul-Islaam Ibn Al-Qayyim mentioned Bid`ah (innovation) being a greater sin than the major sins, and it being the worst way in which shaytaan can deceive you with, after shirk, ascribing partners to Allaah. I think it was Imaam Ash-Shafi`ee who said that it is better for a man to go to Allaah (on the day of judgment) with every sin except for shirk, then him going to Allaah with a single innovation (bid`ah). I think Al-Fudayl Ibn `Iyaad could have also said it, rahimahumallaah. Imam Al-Barbahaaree, rahimahullaah talks about innovation and the statments of the scholars about it in his famous, Sharh us-Sunnah, Explanation of the Creed.

Shaykh Saalih Al-Fawzaan, in his Al-Mulakhkhas Al-Fiqhi, translated into English as "A summary of Islamic Jurisprudence", mentions some detestable acts to perform during prayer. He says,

"It is detestable as well to trifle in prayer, such as playing with one's leg, beard, garment or anything else during the prayer, or playing with one's hand on the ground and so on."​

He also mentions other detestable acts such as cleaing one's nose, to hem your garment and others. He also says,

"It is also detestable to wipe whatever attaches to one's forehead or nose during prayer following prostration, yet one is allowed to do so after finishing prayer."​

There are some well known ahaadeeth about wiping the forehead and nose during salaah, which I never placed in memory. Hope it helps.
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Alhamdulilah brother for the replies, i did wipe my nose a couple of times because it was runny, with a tissue of course. Inshallah my prayer was still accepted.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam
 

Al-Kashmiri

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Inshaa' Allaah, same with me. I have had nose problems in the past, it distracts me not to wipe it (at least once if I have to) in salaah.
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Well thats everything answered. Jazakallah Khair brother, much appreciated.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam
 

abdellah007

Junior Member
salam

Asalamu Alykum,


Also when praying at home, when going down for rukoo i raise my hands and when rising from rukoo i raise my hands. Also when rising from the second sujood and standing i raise my hands only. Is This Okay?

This is because i have not seen anyone do this at the Mosque and I am afraid to do it because people may think its wrong or something.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam


i do that as well, it s sunna
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
Asalamu Alykum,
Also when praying at home, when going down for rukoo i raise my hands and when rising from rukoo i raise my hands. Also when rising from the second sujood and standing i raise my hands only. Is This Okay?
Wasalam

:wasalam:

It is Sunnah to raise one’s hands in four places during the prayer:

When pronouncing Takbeer al-Ihraam (the first Takbeer), when bowing in Rukoo’, when rising from Rukoo’ and when standing up after the first Tashahhud. Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) narrated that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) started his prayer, he would say “Allaahu akbar” and raise his hands, when he bowed in rukoo’ he would raise his hands, when he said “Sami’a Allaahu liman hamidah [Allaah hears those who praise Him]” he would raise his hands, and when he stood up after two Rak’ahs he would raise his hands. (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 2/222; Abu Dawood, 1/197).

The meaning of “when he stood up after two Rak’ahs he would raise his hands” is, when he stood up after the first Tashahhud.

The hands may be raised to the level of the shoulders or the ears. See Al-‘Ayni fi’l-‘Umdah, 5/7; Sharh Muslim by al-Nawawi, 4/95; Sifat Salaat al-Nabi by al-Albaani, 87.


:salam2:
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Jazakallah Khair for the posts.

One more question on Jumu'ah, after i have read the 4 rakats and 2 rakats, Should i offer Dua?

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
Asalamu Alykum,

Jazakallah Khair for the posts.

One more question on Jumu'ah, after i have read the 4 rakats and 2 rakats, Should i offer Dua?

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam

:wasalam:

With regard to making du’aa’ together in one voice behind the imaam after the prayer, Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen answered this question in al-Fataawaa, p. 368, where he said:

“This is one of the bid’ahs which was not reported from the Prophet or from his companions. What is prescribed in Islam is for people to remember Allaah Alone after the prayer, in accordance with the teachings of the Messenger of Allaah, and this should be done aloud, as reported in Saheeh al-Bukhaari from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both), who said: “People used to raise their voices in Dhikr [remembrance of Allaah] after finishing the prescribed prayer at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”

With regard to the prayer after Jumu’ah, Ibn al-Qayyim said in al-Zaad (1/440):

When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had prayed Jumu’ah, he would enter his house and pray two Rak’ahs of Sunnah, and he commanded those who had prayed it to pray four rak’ahs afterwards. Our shaykh, Abu’l-‘Abbaas Ibn Taymiyah said: if he prayed in the mosque, he would pray four, and if he prayed at home, he would pray two. I say: this is what is indicated by many ahaadeeth. Abu Dawood reported in his Sunan (1130) from Ibn ‘Umar that when he prayed in the mosque, he prayed four and when he prayed at home, he prayed two.

And Allah knows best.
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
With regard to making du’aa’ together in one voice behind the imaam after the prayer, Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen answered this question in al-Fataawaa, p. 368, where he said:

“This is one of the bid’ahs which was not reported from the Prophet or from his companions. What is prescribed in Islam is for people to remember Allaah Alone after the prayer, in accordance with the teachings of the Messenger of Allaah, and this should be done aloud, as reported in Saheeh al-Bukhaari from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both), who said: “People used to raise their voices in Dhikr [remembrance of Allaah] after finishing the prescribed prayer at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).”

:salam2:
What i would do is i would leave after friday prayers or i will recite dua..or maybe some zikr...alone while a lot others say together.
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
:salam2:

With regards to using a tissue during prayer to wipe ones nose:

It is permissible for a worshipper to use a tissue in this case. The scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them) stated that it is permissible to make some slight movements during prayer if the worshipper needs to do so, as it says in al-Majmoo’ by al-Nawawi (4/94).

They quoted as evidence many ahaadeeth that were narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). For example, Abu Dawood (650) narrated that Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri said: “Whilst the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was leading his companions in prayer, he took off his shoes and placed them to his left. When the people saw that, they took off their shoes too. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) finished his prayer he said, ‘What made you take off your shoes?’ They said, ‘We saw you taking off your shoes so we took off ours too.’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to me and told me that there was something dirty on them [my shoes].’ And he said, ‘When any one of you comes to the mosque, let him look at his shoes and if there is anything dirty on them, let him wipe it off and pray in them.’” (Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 605). Al-Khattaabi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Ma’aalim al-Sunan (2/329).

This shows that a slight movement does not affect one’s prayer.

:salam2:
 

ditta

Alhamdu'Lillaah
Staff member
Asalamu Alykum,

Indeed it would be difficult. Jazakallah Khair for the replies.

Alhamdulilah

Wasalam

:salam2:
JazakAllah akhi...
This once again show god does not make religion difficult..Imagine a slight movement invalidate a prayer...How difficult is that:mashallah:
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
Assalamu aleikum.
I actually have the same problem ,when I pray in the Mosque with everybody.But since I'm convert I'm thinking may be I do something wrong.They can do it so fast.I just can't ,I'm always late.
Plus I have allergy on the carpets :) My nose start itching and my eyes.I don't know what to do with this problem....

salam to all
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
Waa alaikum Assalam Sister,

Wear a mask that covers your mouth and nose (surgeons mask).

:salam2:

:salam2:
Akhi , can allergy be cured...or at least reduced to some extent..??

To sister aisha:
Actually it depend on the type of carpet...too, u can put a clean cloth on the floor so that when u do sujood , ur nose come into contact with the cloth .
Another suggestion is to use vicks to apply on ur nose
 
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