Reciting Surat Ya-Seen for dead persons

[ayman]

Question:
regarding answer 2226:
I see in my mosque something called a 'khutm' where the people get together and recite sura yasin (36) saying that helps the dead or something similar. Is there any daleel in support of this?
wa salam.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

There is no saheeh evidence (daleel) to indicate that this practice is prescribed in sharee’ah. Therefore it is an act of bi’dah (innovation) which we should avoid, warn others against and not take part in. We should adhere to the sunnah, which contains sufficient alternatives to all the innovated practices. The hadeeth “Recite Yaa-Seen for your dead” is a da’eef (weak) hadeeth. See Question #734. And Allaah is the Source of strength..

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

 

[dianne]

Thanks for sharing

 

[alkathiri]

Question:
regarding answer 2226:
I see in my mosque something called a 'khutm' where the people get together and recite sura yasin (36) saying that helps the dead or something similar. Is there any daleel in support of this?
wa salam.

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

There is no saheeh evidence (daleel) to indicate that this practice is prescribed in sharee’ah. Therefore it is an act of bi’dah (innovation) which we should avoid, warn others against and not take part in. We should adhere to the sunnah, which contains sufficient alternatives to all the innovated practices. The hadeeth “Recite Yaa-Seen for your dead” is a da’eef (weak) hadeeth. See Question #734. And Allaah is the Source of strength..

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

Thanks akhi...But unfortunately.....

 

[dianne]

Thanks akhi,but unfortunately.....

 

[Mrmuslim]

Assalamualaikum warahmaturah brother,

I know that u said theres no kinda evidence or sahih daleel to indicate that practice is prescribed in sharee'ah,When u understands the context of the Surah Yaseen or Al Fatihah or other surah- Can u understand the meaning is? or you just read without any feelings?ok this is just my question not other issue.lol

As we know that Surah Yaseen is a Heart of Al Quran, Surah Al Fatihah is a The Opening/Beginning of Al Quran.If you want to read more and understand more of Bidaa' or da'eef,u no need to asks the scholars if u cant find the answer,like us go to school,unsatisfied the answer we need to find ourself.These are the attachment of ask question & answer-



Maybe you need to read the source the hadith four imams. links removed

Wassalam

salaam alikom

the hadith you mentioned about Suran Ya sin,

Shaikh Nasir ul-Dean Al Albani (RH) wrote a series of books called "Silsilat Al Ahadith Addaeefa" the series of weak narrations.

Normally the authenticity or weakness of the Hadith is checked ,not on the basis of its text (matn), but on the basis of its chain (Isnad)only. The weakness in a Hadith could be due the lack of continuity in the chain of transmitters or due to the lack of integrity ('adalah) of its narrators.


22. "For everything there is a heart, and for the Qur'an this is Surah Ya Sin and who reads it, it is as if he has read the Qur'an ten times." Fabricated No.169

 

[maisarah]

Assalamualeikum Mr Muslim,

are you telling us that recite surah yaseen is no evidence in a hadith? What is the major hadith of Islam? Can you please give me the answer?

wassalamualaikum.

 

[Mrmuslim]

Assalamualeikum Mr Muslim,

are you telling us that recite surah yaseen is no evidence in a hadith? What is the major hadith of Islam? Can you please give me the answer?

wassalamualaikum.

walikom salaam

Did i say its not allowed to recite surrah Yasin ?

I said the hadith was mentioned that for everything is heart and the heart of the Quran is Ya sin This a weak hadith,

But reciting surrah Ya sin by it self its allowed I never said its not.. but reciting it for certain issues in most of hadith are fabricated.


here are other weak hadith about Ya sin, if u know arabic.

( إن الله تبارك وتعالى قرأ ( طه ) و ( يّس ) قبل أن يخلق آدم بألفي عام ، فلما سمعت الملائكة القرآن قالوا : طوبى لأمة ينزل هذا عليهم ، وطوبى لألسن تتكلم بهذا ، وطوبى لأجوف تحمل هذا ) [ سلسلة الأحاديث الضعيفة / 1248 ] ..
- ( من دخل المقابر فقرأ سورة ( يّس ) خفف عنهم يومئذ ، وكان له بعدد من فيها حسنات ) [ (( موضوع )) / سلسلة الأحاديث الضعيفة / 1246 ] ..

- ( إن لكل شيء قلبا ، وقلب القرآن (يس ، ومن قرأ (يس ؛ كتب الله له بقراءتها قراءة القرآن عشر مرات ) [ (( موضوع )) / ضعيف الترغيب و الترهيب / 885 ] ..

- ( من قرأ ( يس ) ابتغاء وجه الله ، غفر الله له ما تقدم من ذنبه ، فاقرؤوها عند موتاكم ) (( ضعيف )) [ ضعيف الجامع الصغير/ 5785 ] .

- ( من قرأ {يس} في صدر النهار؛ قضيت حوائجه ) [ (( ضعيف )) / ضعيف مشكاة المصابيح / 2118 ] ..​

There is no authentic proof for reciting Al-Fatiha over the deceased nor is there anyauthentic proof for reading Surah Yasin after the death of a Muslim or at the grave ofthe deceased. All the hadiths mentioning reciting Yasin are weak and if they were authentic then the understanding would be to read Yasin to dying Muslims on their deathbeds similar to the hadith that says “Prompt your dying ones to say “La ilaha illallah.” So likewise it is not from the sunnah to prompt the deceased to say La ilaha il
lallah after his burial after he has died.

so there are ahadeeth in surrah Ya sin which are fabricated and weak we dont need to use them here.

# 2 dont get mad when your post dont show up, it some time gose under moederation automatically I dont have control on it,

# 3 even though it show i am on line, that dostnt mean I am on TTI. it might show you I am 24/7 on TTI but I am just logged on one of the comp. some where, so try to be patient.

Wa salaam alikom

 

[maisarah]

Walaikumusalam,

Is that hadith Sunan Aboo Dawood also weak hadith?

 

[Mrmuslim]

salaam alikom

You have to post the hadith....

wa salaam

 

[junaid hasan]

Walaikumusalam,

Is that hadith Sunan Aboo Dawood also weak hadith?

Question: Could you explain to me about al-Bukhârî’s book entitled al-Adab al-Mufrad. I have heard there are weak hadîth in it. How can this be, when he is widely regarded as the pre-eminent scholar of hadîth?

Answered by the Fatwa Department Research Committee - chaired by Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhâb al-Turayrî

Indeed, there are quite a number of weak hadîth in al-Adab al-Mufrad.

We must understand that al-Bukhârî wrote a number of books. Only one of these – his most ambitious work – he gave the title al-Sahîh, meaning “Authentic”. He imposed upon himself the most rigorous conditions of authenticity in writing this book. He would not record in al-Sahîh any hadîth unless it fulfilled those conditions.

To make sure he succeeded in his goal, he aimed far higher in his Sahîh than the minimum accepted conditions of authenticity. This ensured al-Bukhârî that if he made a “mistake” – which is inevitable in any human endeavor – that would mean his recording in his Sahîh a hadîth does not fully meet those extra-rigorous standards – however, it would still be an authentic hadîth nonetheless.

He did not set these strict conditions for the other books he wrote or compiled. He did not even set the condition of the hadîth having to be authentic. He would allow in his other books hadîth that were only good (hasan). He would allow borderline cases. In some instances, he would allow weak hadîth.

This is the case with al-Adab al-Mufrad. It is a book about “adab” – about good manners and virtuous behavior. It is not a book about Islamic beliefs or matters of law.

This is why al-Bukhârî is willing to mention even weak hadîth in al-Adab al-Mufrad. Weak hadîth can be tolerated, because the book is talking about exhortations and virtues. The scholars used to tolerate the narration of moderately weak hadîth regarding virtuous behavior, but they did not tolerate weak hadîth for establishing legal rulings.

Please also know that of the hadîth in al-Adab al-Mufrad that you might hear some critics describing as weak, not all of them are the same. Some of those are borderline cases. Some might be considered good or even authentic by al-Bukhârî or other hadîth scholars. In a book which is not written upon the most rigorous standards of authenticity, there is bound to be a number of hadîth about which specialists will disagree regarding their quality.

Allah knows best.

i hope brother you got the point of your answer.
if its also weak hadiths or not you are allow(must not) to do because scholars used to tolerate the narration of moderately weak hadîth regarding virtuous behavior.

 

[maisarah]

Sunan ABu Dawood
Book 20, Number 3115:
Narrated Ma'qil ibn Yasar:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Recite Surah Ya-Sin over your dying men. This is the version of Ibn al-Ala'

Narrated Ibnu Umar ra recite awal wal akhirah surat Al-Baqarah on the grave after buried. (HR Al-Baihaqi sanad hasan).

unfortunately the argument is from As-Syaukani in kitab Nailul Authar. Said that the evidence is for the deceased,if by tafsir from the people still alive is they will come with qarinah. (Lihat Nailur Authar jilid 4 page 52)


But Al-Imam An-Nawawi rahimahullah wrote in kitab Riyadhush-Shalihin - Doa for the deceased on the grave is recite al quran,seek from God for the forgiveness of the deceased.
Said that Al-Imam As-syafi'i rahimahullah, like to recite surah al quran to the deceased,if can till qhatam."

Ibnu Qudamah in Al-Mughny page 758 wrote that its a sunnah to recite some of the surah in a grave and will get a rewards.

In other related is Imam Ahmad said its bid'ah, but later he take back his words.

Imam Abu Hanifah dan Imam Malik rahimahumallah made a conclusion said that recite Al-Quran to the deceased is not in a sunnah.But Imam Al-Qarafi from mazhab Al-Malikiyah its just differents opinion from the 4 mazhab.

So the problem in here is the Khilaf among of the Ulama,some said is authentic and some is not.different opinion is just of our Ulama,so theres no need to argue the issues.

wassalamualaikum