Shi'a vs Sunni?

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q8penpals

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I was reading past posts and came across this quote from someone (I don't remember who and it doesn't matter)

"I must say this to you: do not go to websites of the sufi's, ahmadiyya, or shiites, this are groups who turn the islam to their own ways and innovate a lot in our deen"

Without going into a war of words over which is "better", what is the exact difference between Sunni and Shi'a?

My husband's family is Shi'a (as are about 40% of the Kuwaiti Muslims) and I don't see them doing anything different than any other Muslims? I know that in Iraq it is seen that the Shi'ites beat themselves for some things, but none in my husband's family believe in doing so.

Is this website only for Sunni Muslims or any?

:ma: someone will give me an educated answer.

Lana
 

dna1987

Muslim Guy
Is this website only for Sunni Muslims or any?

:ma: someone will give me an educated answer.

Lana


I would say that this site is for "Muslims" as well as "non-Muslims" to learn about "Muslims".

Lol. Everyone is free to come to the site as long as they don't break the forum rules, I didn't read anything that said "you must be a sunni to sign up" etc. About the differences, I don't think I am that qualified to tell you the lil differences I do know about sunnni and shia....

What I do know is that all Muslims believe in the message of "There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad :saw: is his messenger". If a person truly believes that, then they will also try and learn what the prophet taught us (as the person would believe he is God's messenger) .... and that will make a person a Muslim.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
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Assalamu Alaykum,

I do not remember reading the quote that you gave above on this website. Perhaps someone said that, i do not know. Its not something i have seen. But, it is not wrong either!

The admin and moderators here try their best to present Islam according to the clear teachings of the Quran and the authentic Sunnah.

Everything we do in Islam must have evidence for it, from the Quran and The Authentic Sunnah.

So yes it is one for Sunnis, but anyone who has a clear mind and looks to the sources of Islam will find everything presented here compatible with their beliefs as a Muslim inshaAllah.

Our main aim is not to discuss other sects, if something is going against the basic tenants of our faith, the thread is normally deleted. The site is not a free speech website. Islam is something that must be followed according to the original teachings, not someone elses ideas or incorrect beliefs made from astray teachers etc.

Shiite differ in that they go into extremes for their love for some Companions of the Prophet and they go into extremes in hatred of the companions. They make false accusations and evil statements about the Companions.

They say bad and evil things about Aisha, mother of the believers. Too horrific to even state here, they also ridicule and say bad things about Abu Bakr, Umar, Abu Hurayrah and many other companions of the Prophet :saw:.

They believe in 12 infallible Imams, and they make dua, (Pray) to these people who they think are perfect.

As every Muslim should know, it is only Allah who is perfect and we must always pray to Allah alone.

They have many strange books, strange beliefs and ideas. From one extreme there are Ismaili Shia who have incorrect belief in God, who believe they do not need to pray, and who think drinking alcohol is not a problem etc. There are others who believe that Ali(RA) is more important than the Prophet :saw: ....The Ulema have said that these people are not Muslim.

Shia do a lot of Shirk (Associating partners with Allah), they visit Graves in Kerbala and all over the world......lamenting and praying to the dead for help.

Shia also have belief in Mutah, (Temporary marriage). They believe that a man can marry a woman for a short period of time and then dump her. That a man can keep doing such things. The Prophet :saw: clearly forbid this in many hadith.

and also they believe in Tuqyah (lying about their beliefs). So, if you ask them if they do any of this, they will say no. Although, in private and between themselves they talk about it... and when they get angry they will say the most awful things about the companions and about Muslims.

When they pray, they also pray differently. One of their many deviant ways of prayer is to slap their knees before giving the Salam, this is as a curse against the companions of the Prophet.

Personally i have seen and met Shia who say bad things about the companions of the Prophet :saw:, this should be enough to deter anyone from being with them.

I have even been to Druze (shia sect) villages. These people believe in reincarnation, they have their own religious books and even believe their founder was a prophet. They believe that he is Part of God - so clearly, these people are not Muslims. There are varying types of Shiites, but they all are incorrect as they do Shirk, bidah, hold onto various supersticions and lie, curse the companions of the Prophet Muhammad.

Unfortunately they are Hadith rejectors, they do not believe in any of mainstream Islam. They would rather favour their fabricated and lurid books over those of wonderful words of our Prophet :saw:

They say they love the Ahlul Bayt, but this is far from the truth. For if they loved the family of the Prophet :saw: they would not hate Aisha, nor would they hate the Prophet's companions.


We can not say that an individual Shia from mainstream shiism is a non-Muslim, but as a group their beliefs can take people outside of Islam.

Bottom line is, if you know about Islam. We are talking Pure Islam, as based on the Quran and Sunnah, with clear understanding of Tawheed, then you will be able to see their mistakes clearly. For example when they say Ya Ali, or Ya Mehdi, etc....... These are clear statements of Shirk (associating partners with Allah),

Ya means "Oh" and is used when you call upon someone. This is Ok if we say Ya Allah (Oh Allah), or Ya Rabb (oh Lord).. and it is also ok if we use it in a slightly different context by calling a friend or someone alive to come over to us or to listen to us, so i might say to you Ya Lana "Oh Lana ... please read".

However, we definitely do not use this to call upon the dead, for the dead can not hear or aid us in any way.

We can only say Ya in our prayers to Allah the almighty.

Read More about Shiites here.

As for the Ahmadiyya, they are definitely not Muslims. This is because they believe in another Prophet, some Indian guy called Ghulam Ahmad, and they have a lot of beliefs that throw them outside of Islam. Ahmadiyya are not Muslim:

Read About Qadiani / Ahmadiyya and Why they Are Not Muslims


Of course, having said these differences, there is no room in Islam for anyone to go into violence or attack other people. This is unjustifiable and should never be done by anyone. What is needed is for the people (their scholars and leaders) to actually sit down and talk together in a civillised and Islamic way.

Wasalam.

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My advice to you sister is to learn about Islam :

Fundamental Beliefs in Islam Tawheed and Aqeedah
Introductory Articles About Islam
 
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