SOLATUL ASR

[Hard Rock Moslem]

We all know it is forbidden to perform any salat during sunset. I've following question, can any brothers or sisters help me to answer:

1) While waiting for Magrib in Masjid, I always notice some brothers just going to start performing solatul Asr, say about 5min to Magrib. For whatever reason for their delay, which action is better just salat or performing it after Magrib?

2) During sun setting, can anyone perform tahiyattul masjid (hope correctly spelled)?

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

I still can wait no problem.

 

[Nurain]

Assalamu alaykum,

No problem brother you can perform your tahiyatul masjid at the forbidden timings, even the 2 rakaat after taking wudhoo. Tahiyatul masjid is due to the situation and not time.

Sorry to keep you waiting for months.

 

[Nurain]

TAHIYAT AL-MASJID AT TIMES WHEN PRAYER IS NOT ALLOWED​

If a person enters the Masjid during one of the time when making prayer is makrooh (eg. sunrise, sunset, zawaal,...), does he still have to pray two rakaa Tahiyat Al-masjid.

Praise be to Allaah.

There are differences among the scholars concerning this matter. The correct opinion is that Tahiyat al-masjid is permitted at all times, even after Fajr and after ‘Asr, because of the general applicability of the hadeeth “When any one of you enters the Mosque, he should not sit down until he has prayed two rak’ahs” (Saheeh – agreed upon), and because this is one of the prayers that is done for a specific reason, like Salaat al-Tawaaf (prayer done after circumambulating the Ka’bah) and Salaat al-Kusoof (prayer at the time of an eclipse). The correct view concerning all of these is that it is permissible to do these at times when prayer is generally disallowed, like making up missed prayers. Concerning Salaat al-Tawaaf, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O Banu ‘Abd Manaaf, do not prevent anyone from circumambulating this House and praying at any time of night or day.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad and the authors of Sunan with a saheeh isnaad); concerning Salaat al-Kusoof, he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The sun and moon are two of the Signs of Allaah; they are not eclipsed because of the death or life of anyone.” (1/332).

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[Hard Rock Moslem]

Better late than never. Thanks, I was forgotten about it. One hanafi ustaz said only travellers may pray tahiyatul masjid during forbidden time. A prayer is a prayer and during the time forbidden we should avoid it regardless fard salat or nafil except for travellers. I avoid doing it during forbidden time. Allahu 'alam.

For the first question, surprising nobody has an answer?

Now I remember, I found following hadith:

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah r.a.

On the day of Al-Khandaq (the battle of trench.) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab came cursing the disbelievers of Quraish after the sun had set and said, "O Allah's Apostle I could not offer the 'Asr prayer till the sun had set." The Prophet said, "By Allah! I, too, have not prayed." So we turned towards Buthan, and the Prophet performed ablution and we too performed ablution and offered the 'Asr prayer after the sun had set, and then he offered the Maghrib prayer.

- Sahih Muslim

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

TAHIYAT AL-MASJID AT TIMES WHEN PRAYER IS NOT ALLOWED​

If a person enters the Masjid during one of the time when making prayer is makrooh (eg. sunrise, sunset, zawaal,...), does he still have to pray two rakaa Tahiyat Al-masjid.

Praise be to Allaah.

There are differences among the scholars concerning this matter. The correct opinion is that Tahiyat al-masjid is permitted at all times, even after Fajr and after ‘Asr, because of the general applicability of the hadeeth “When any one of you enters the Mosque, he should not sit down until he has prayed two rak’ahs” (Saheeh – agreed upon), and because this is one of the prayers that is done for a specific reason, like Salaat al-Tawaaf (prayer done after circumambulating the Ka’bah) and Salaat al-Kusoof (prayer at the time of an eclipse). The correct view concerning all of these is that it is permissible to do these at times when prayer is generally disallowed, like making up missed prayers. Concerning Salaat al-Tawaaf, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O Banu ‘Abd Manaaf, do not prevent anyone from circumambulating this House and praying at any time of night or day.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad and the authors of Sunan with a saheeh isnaad); concerning Salaat al-Kusoof, he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The sun and moon are two of the Signs of Allaah; they are not eclipsed because of the death or life of anyone.” (1/332).

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JazakhAllah khair, mashAllah. Sister Nurain, this is what I was looking for.

 

[Nurain]

1) While waiting for Magrib in Masjid, I always notice some brothers just going to start performing solatul Asr, say about 5min to Magrib. For whatever reason for their delay, which action is better just salat or performing it after Magrib?

What do you mean, brother? Is it better to perform 'Asr after maghrib? *frowns and scratches head*

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

Say magrib prayer is at 7.30pm, at 7.25pm I do see brothers who just arrived quickly pray their Asr prayer though it is forbidden (the sun is setting). You already missed the Asr salat and earn a sin but why salat during forbidden time and earn another sin?

So I wonder, since so many people are doing it in the masjid, is it allowed to pray delayed Asr when the sun setting or is it better to pray after the magrib adzan? Looking at the hadith looks like after!!! Your comment / opinion / fatwa??

 

[muslimda3ee]

:salam2:

The forbidden times are for prevention of addtional and voluntary prayers. If you must prayer like tahiyat almasjid or make up a missed prayer than you are able to. It is not recomended to pray a fardh prayer after the fardh. They are correct to pray asr before maghrib. but they should be mindful to pray asr in it's time and not delay it till just before maghrib.

for more complete answer:

Praise be to Allaah. Firstly – there are some times at which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) disallowed prayer. These are:

1 – From after Fajr prayer until the sun has appeared and risen to the height of a spear, i.e., approximately fifteen minutes. (al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 4/162).

2 – The time when the sun is at its zenith in the middle of the sky. This is a short time before the time for Zuhr prayer begins, approximately one-quarter of an hour or twenty minutes. (Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 11/286). Some of the scholars said that it was shorter than that. Ibn Qaasim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said that it is a brief time period, not even long enough to pray, only enough to say the takbeer to start the prayer. (Haashiyat Ibn Qaasim ‘ala’l-Rawd al-Murabba’, 2/245)

3 – After ‘Asr prayer until the sun sets.
These three times were mentioned in many ahaadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade praying at these times. These ahaadeeth include the following:

1 – Al-Bukhaari (586) and Muslim (728) narrated that Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is no prayer after ‘Asr prayer until the sun has set, and no prayer after Fajr prayer until the sun has risen.’”

2 – Muslim (832) narrated that ‘Amr ibn ‘Abasah al-Sulami (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “I said, ‘O Prophet of Allaah, tell me what Allaah has taught you and I do not know, tell me about the prayer.’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Pray Subh (Fajr) prayer, then do not pray until the sun has appeared and risen… then pray for your prayer is witnessed and attended (by the angels), until the shadow of a spear points due north – which is the time when the sun is in the middle of the sky – then stop praying, for at that time Hell is stoked up. When the shadow turns – which is the beginning of the time for Zuhr – then pray, for your prayer is witnessed and attended (by the angels), until you pray ‘Asr. Then stop praying until the sun sets…”

Secondly: what is meant by making up prayers (qada’) is doing the prayer after the time for that prayer is over. The made-up prayer may be either fard (obligatory) or naafil (supererogatory).
Fard prayers: The Muslims must pray regularly at the times defined by Allaah for each prayer. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, As‑Salaah (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours”[al-Nisa’ 4:103]

Delaying the prayer until its time is over without a reason or excuse is haraam, and it is a major sin.

If the Muslim has an excuse, such as sleeping or forgetting, and he was not able to do the prayer on time, then he must make up the prayer when that reason no longer applies, even if that is at one of the times when prayer is disallowed. This is the view of the majority of scholars. See al-Mughni, 2/515.

The evidence for that is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Whoever sleeps and misses the prayer or forgets it, let him pray it when he remembers.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 597; Muslim, 684)

Naafil prayers: the scholars differed with regard to making them up at times when prayer is disallowed. The correct view is that they should be made up. This is the view of al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him). See al-Majmoo’, 4/170. It was also the view favoured by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him), as stated in al-Fataawa, 23/127. This is indicated by a number of ahaadeeth, such as:​

The report narrated by al-Bukhaari (1233) and Muslim (834) from Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with her), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed two rak’ahs after ‘Asr, and she asked him about that. He said: “Some people from ‘Abd al-Qays came to me and distracted me from praying two rak’ahs after Zuhr, so I did them now.”​

Ibn Maajah (1154) narrated that Qays ibn ‘Amr said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw a man praying two rak'ahs after he had prayed Fajr prayer. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Are you praying Fajr twice?” The man said to him, “I did not pray the two rak’ahs that come before it, so I prayed them now.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) remained silent. This was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah (984). Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) remained silent indicates that it is permissible. (al-Mughni, 2/532).​

And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and grant him peace.
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[Hard Rock Moslem]

Thank you brother Muslim. This is helpful.