The Bidah Thread

[Tabassum07]

:salam2:

I've been meaning to post this thread for quite a while, and today is the perfect opportunity. Right now, I'm in a really depressed mood because I was at a relative's gathering, where almost everyone was older than me (grandmotherly age) and I was the only young person there. The talk turned to religion, and one of them said how their daughters who are reading the Quran translation/commentary are telling their parents not to do certain things like Reading Quran in a gathering (Quran Khaani), and not to do Fatiha/Niaz on food.

This is a very touchy topic with me, because I've tried to explain to my mom not to do these things, but no one listens. Here too, I tried to say all these things were bidah, and all innovations were sinning. But I was at this place where everyone was older than me, and no one really took any heed, and they all continued talking about "Wahhabis" and "new things coming up" and some even said, "Yes, this new generation wants us to stop everything. After all, near the End times new groups will come up..."

And this discussion made me feel really really sad and depressed, I just somehow wanted everyone to understand the right thing and to stop conforming to old traditions, but I wasn't in any position to make any confident statements, because I myself don't have much knowledge on these subjects and I'm still learning.

So.

The purpose of this thread is to explain to me about the different kinds of bidah. Is it okay if I start by one topic, understand that one first, and then move on to another topic? I want to understand everything in detail, so I know whats the correct thing to do and most importantly, WHY. Allah knows that I don't want to do anything misleading or wrong.

The first topic I want to bring up is Fatiha/Niaz on food. You know, where people read duas and blow on food, and then eat some and give some to the poor.

So a little about my background. Since childhood, on certain days (Muharram, Prophet's birthday, Shabebaraat), my mom makes a certain food and my dad does the fatiha on it. This year, since I knew better, I tried sooo very hard to stop my parents from not doing this on Milad un Nabi, but I tried and tried and couldn't convince anyone. It broke my heart very much.

So what's the reasoning why not to do this??

Lol, please no arguing. Let's be peaceful here, inshallah. .

 

[islamisthesolution]

:salam2:

inshAllah someone will help you out but i like the end of the thread .
i guess everyone should write this at the end of his\her post lol

:salam2:

 

[Tabassum07]

^ lol, yes, seriously

 

[Muslim18]

:salam2:

I haven't heard about it sorry... but seen as this is a bidah thread can i ask about something that concerns me to be bidah??? sorry if i interrupted in anyway your discussion :shymuslima1:

i will try and find info about it as well inshallah hope someone can help you

 

[Tabassum07]

Oh sister, don't worry, go ahead. It's the bidah thread after all.

Hope someone helps us.

 

[BinteShafi]

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

There is no festival in Islamic sharee’ah that is called “The Prophet’s Birthday”. Neither the Sahaabah nor the Taabi’een nor the four imams nor anyone else recognized such a day as part of their religion. Rather this festival was introduced by some ignorant Baatini innovators, then the people began to follow this innovation but the imams have denounced it in every time and place.

Secondly:

Based on this, everything that the people do specially for this day is regarded as haraam, innovated actions, because they intend thereby to keep alive a festival that has been introduced into our religion, such as holding parties, offering food and so on.

Shaykh al-Fawzaan said in al-Bayaan li Akhta’ ba’d al-Kuttaab (268-270):

The commands in the Qur'aan and Sunnah to follow that which has been prescribed by Allaah and His Messenger and the prohibition against introducing innovations into the religion are well known. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to mankind): “If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur’aan and the Sunnah), Allaah will love you and forgive you your sins”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:31]

“[Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) to these idolaters (pagan Arabs) of your folk:] Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord (the Qur’aan and Prophet Muhammad’s Sunnah), and follow not any Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers who order you to associate partners in worship with Allaah), besides Him (Allaah). Little do you remember!”

[al-A’raaf 7:3]

“And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path”

[al-An’aam 6:153]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected.” According to a version narrated by Muslim: “Whoever does any deed that is not part of this matter of ours will have it rejected.”

Among the innovations that people have introduced is celebration of the Prophet’s birthday (Mawlid) in the month of Rabee’ al-Awwal. There are various ways in which they celebrate this occasion:

Some of them simply gather to read the story of his birth, or they listen to speeches and qaseedahs (odes) on this occasion.

Some of them make food and sweets etc, and offer them to the people who attend.

Some of them hold these celebrations in the mosques and some hold them in their houses.

Some of them do not limit themselves to what we have mentioned, rather their gatherings include haraam and evil things such as men mixing freely with women, dancing and music, or acts of shirk such as seeking the help of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and calling upon him or seeking his support against their enemies, and so on.

Whatever kinds of celebrations they are and whatever form they take, they are undoubtedly bid’ah and haraam innovations that were introduced long after the time of the best generations.

The first one who introduced this innovation was Abu Sa’eed Kawkaboori, the king of Irbil, at the end of the sixth or beginning of the seventh century AH, as was mentioned by the historians such as Ibn Katheer, Ibn Khalqaan and others.

Abu Shaamah said: The first one who did that in Mosul was Shaykh ‘Umar ibn Muhammad al-Mulla, one of the well known righteous men, and the ruler of Irbil and others followed his example.

Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah (13-137), in his biography of Abu Sa’eed al-Kawkaboori:

He did the Mawlid in Rabee’ al-Awwal and celebrated it with a great celebration. … Then he said:

Al-Sabt said: Some of those who attended the feast given by the king on some of the Mawlids said that this feast included five thousand roasted heads, ten thousand chickens, one hundred thousand bowls and thirty thousand plates of sweets. And the Sufis sang from Zuhr until Fajr, and he himself danced with them. End quote.

Ibn Khalqaan said in Wafiyaat al-A’yaan (3-274):

When the first of Safar came, they would adorn those domes with all kinds of fine adornments, and in every dome there was a group of singers and a group of puppeteers and musical players, and they did not leave any dome but they installed a group there. End quote.

But most of what these innovators do on this day is making food of various kinds and distributing it and inviting people to eat. If a Muslim joins in this action, eats their food and sits in their gatherings, then undoubtedly he is taking part in keeping the innovation alive, and is cooperating in it, and Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Help you one another in Al‑Birr and At‑Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allaah”

[al-Maa’idah 5:2]

Hence the fatwas of the scholars state that it is haraam to eat food that is distributed on this day and on other innovated festivals.

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked the following question in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (9/74):

What is the ruling on meat that is slaughtered for the Mawlid?

He (may Allaah have mercy on him) replied:

If it is slaughtered (as a sacrifice) to the one whose birthday is being celebrated, then it is major shirk, but it is slaughtered just to be eaten, there is nothing wrong with that. But it should not be eaten, and the Muslim should not attend (the feast), so as to denounce them in word and in deed, unless he attends in order to denounce them without joining them in eating or anything else. End quote.

And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/89693

 

[abu'muhammad]

:

The first topic I want to bring up is Fatiha/Niaz on food. You know, where people read duas and blow on food, and then eat some and give some to the poor.

So a little about my background. Since childhood, on certain days (Muharram, Prophet's birthday, Shabebaraat), my mom makes a certain food and my dad does the fatiha on it. This year, since I knew better, I tried sooo very hard to stop my parents from not doing this on Milad un Nabi, but I tried and tried and couldn't convince anyone. It broke my heart very much.

So what's the reasoning why not to do this??

JazakAllahu khair sister binte shafi for posting beneficial read.

Bidah distorts and weakens the true religion that Allah sent upon prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and it is mis-guidance that leads to hell, as it is not what Allah ordered to do. The only guidance is quran and sunnah of prophet, who adheres to this will never deviate from the right path. Whenever there is any religious duty or obligation ,quran and authentic sunnah should be referred for scrutinity, but most of time this is not possible because of limited knowledge. Then the other way is to ask to scholars of ahlus-sunnah. or ‘people of sunnah’ (Which is the only group or jamaat upon the true teachings of Islam. And irrespective of nationality,colour, race, caste or region etc and ‘obey Allah and His messenger’. Take forward true teachings and strictly follow understanding of pious first three generations of Islam - sahaabah, taabein, atba at taabein.. )

The sunnah and hadeeth reports transmitted from companions to later generations and then onwards to other generations. There were many ups-down in the political and regional front during those times. And many other factors that worked , (which a scholar could explain thoroughly). Due to these people added or adopted new ways and methodologies in Islam that was not in original Islam. Allah sent many scholars , revivers and Allamah who revived the sunnah and establish the deen which was in times of prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and upon the understanding of pious predecessors. These people fought against bidah, kufr, shirk and other things that crept in muslim society and staunchly protected the sunnah.

Why the understanding of Pious predecessors ? the pious predecessors are salaf as-saalih. It includes all companions of prophet, taabeins and atba at taabeins. the companions like the four khalifas, wives of prophet- mother of believers, and companions like Ammar yasir, Ibn masood, Abu hurayrah, Zaid and others who have spent most of their life time with Prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) and learnt the deen. Like Ibn Masood spent 10 to13 years, Ammar yasir was among the first muslims whose mother Sumaiyah was the first shahida. (May Allah be pleased with all companions ) These people and other companions of prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) learnt deen . revelations came in their presence at many times . They saw miracles at the hands of prophet (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him). most of the above things, they had the company of Prophet. so they understood deen better than any others. This is because of principle ‘watching is better than hearing’. The rest of generations heard the reports, ahadeeth and authentic sunnah from them and then later generations, than later, than again later. Such transmission and receiption will go until qayamah.

Now those people (salaf-as-saalih) have never celebrated Mawlid, refer for mawlid In detail : http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/249/mawlid or observed the vows, niaz, nadrs that were against quran and authentic sunnah.
To know which vows are to be kept and which not according to quran and sunnah , refer : http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/2587/niaz .


So After knowing that certain act is bidah, muslim should resist ownself and guide others to stay away from that, as its deviation has proved. And should not part in that as muslim loves sunnah the most and contrarily hates bidah the most. If one has done bidah in ignorance and repented sincerely and asked for Allah’s mercy and forgiveness, than Allah is the most merciful and forgiver.

“But whosoever repents after his crime and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allaah), then verily, Allaah will pardon him (accept his repentance). Verily, Allaah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful [al-Maa’idah 5:39 – interpretation of the meaning]

“O you who believe! Turn to Allaah with sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will expiate from you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise)” [al-Tahreem 66:8]

“…your Lord has written (prescribed) Mercy for Himself, so that if any of you does evil in ignorance, and thereafter repents and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allaah), then surely, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-An’aam 6:54 – interpretation of the meaning]

And may He correct the affairs of muslims and shows the straight way.

Texts from Quran , hadeeth and pious generations about bidah

“It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allaah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error”
[al-Ahzaab 33:36]

“Indeed in the Messenger of Allaah (Muhammad) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for (the Meeting with) Allaah and the Last Day”
[al-Ahzaab 33:21]

‘And let those who oppose the Messenger’s (Muhammad’s) commandment (i.e. his Sunnah legal ways, orders, acts of worship, statements) (among the sects) beware, lest some Fitnah (disbelief, trials, afflictions, earthquakes, killing, overpowered by a tyrant) should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them’
[al-Noor 24:63].”

“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”
[al-Maa'idah 5:3]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that every innovated kind of worship would be rejected and thrown back at the one who does it, no matter what it is. He said: “Every action that is not in accordance with this matter of ours [i.e., Islam] will be rejected.” Narrated by Muslim, 1718, from the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her).

The Sahaabah, Taabi’een and imams issued many warnings against innovation.

Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan said: Every act of worship which the companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do, do not do it.

Ibn Mas’ood said: Follow and do not innovate, for the religion is complete. Adhere to the old way (i.e., the way of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and Sufyaan ibn ‘Uyaynah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Bid’ah (innovation) is dearer to Iblees (Satan) than sin, because a person may repent from sin, but not from innovation.

 

[Muslim18]

:salam2:

I made another thread because i couldnt find this one to repost lol anyway i wanted to ask is it a bidah to read the quran from book (mushaf) while in salah??? iam not sure i have seen people do it but iam unsure if it is sunnah hope someone can help here no response at my thread :shymuslima1:

jaza kallahu khair sis

 

[stiks]

:salam2:

I made another thread because i couldnt find this one to repost lol anyway i wanted to ask is it a bidah to read the quran from book (mushaf) while in salah??? iam not sure i have seen people do it but iam unsure if it is sunnah hope someone can help here no response at my thread :shymuslima1:

jaza kallahu khair sis

Asalaamualaykum,

You can't do this in fardh salah (fajr, dhuhr, asr, maghrib, isha), but i'm not sure if you can or not read from the mushaf in the nawafil salah.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Asalaamualaykum,

You can't do this in fardh salah (fajr, dhuhr, asr, maghrib, isha), but i'm not sure if you can or not read from the mushaf in the nawafil salah.

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Allaah knows best, I think there's a bit of differing on this issue.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Before enquiring about certain practices and if they are innovations and why, I think it's best to remind ourselves on the status of the sunnah in Islaam, and what we have been commanded with by our Lord. Nothing is more powerful a proof, and better in admonishing the Muslims, then Allaah's book and the Sunnah of His Messenger, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam. So perhaps by learning/memorising these words, not only will they be a shield for you, but a base for your discussions, and a gateway to your da`wah towards your family. Allaah says in the Qur'aan,

"Say (O Muhammad): 'If you love Allâh then follow me, Allâh will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.'"
[Soorah Aal `Imraan 3:31]

"And obey Allâh and the Messenger that you may obtain mercy."
[Soorah Aal `Imraan 3:132]

"But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept them with full submission."
[Soorah An-Nisaa' 4:65]

"Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord (the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad's Sunnah), and follow not any Auliyâ' (protectors and helpers etc.), besides him*. Little do you remember!"
[Soorah Al-A`raaf 7:3]​

*The translation indicates that this pronoun refers to Allaah, yet Tafseer Ibn Katheer seems to point to the fact that we shouldn't follow besides the Messenger. Allaah knows best

"It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error."
[Soorah Al-Ahzaab 33:36]​

The above aayaat clearly state that opposing the Messenger's, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, decree, is disobedience and going astray. And what are some of the decrees and commands of the Prophet? He, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam said,

"Whoever introduces into this affair (the religion), that which is not from it, will have it rejected"
[Saheeh Al-Bukhaaree]

"Whoever does a deed, that is in accordance with our affair, will have it rejected"
[Saheeh Muslim]

"Upon you is to follow my sunnah, and the sunnah of my rightly guided khulafaa' after me, and cling on to it with your molar teeth. And beware of newly invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation (bid`ah) and every innovation is misguidance."
[Jaami` At-Tirmidhee]​

And there's the famous Khutbah Al-Haajjah, reported in many collections,

"Verily the best speech is the speech of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad, `alayhi sallaatu was-salaam. And the worst of affairs are the newly invented matters, for every newly invented matter is an innovation (bid`ah) and every innovation is misguidance, and all misguidance is in (leads to) the fire."​

Allaah has completed the religion of Al-Islaam for us, it is perfected. That which is perfect does not need any additions, deletions or alterations. Allaah says,

"This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you and have chosen Islaam as your religion."
[Soorah Al-Maa'idah 5:3]​

Maa shaa Allaah, look at the below statement/argument of `Abdur-Rahmaan Al-Adarmee (or Al-Adharmee according to some scholars) regarding innovation. It is said that he was speaking to Ibn Abee Duwaad at the time, the infamous innovator who had Imaam Ahmad, rahimahullaah, persecuted a number of times.

"Muhammad Ibn `Abdur-Rahmaan Al-Adharmee said to a man who was speaking of innovation and calling the people towards it: "Did the Messenger of Allaah, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, Abu Bakr, `Umar, `Uthmaan or `Alee have knowledge about it or did they not have knowledge about it?" He said: "They did not have knowledge of it." He said: "So something which they had no knowledge of, you know?!" The man said: "Then I say that they did have knowledge of it!" He said: "Was it sufficient for them that they not speak about it nor call the people towards it, or was it not sufficient for them?" The man said: "Of course it was sufficient for them." He said: "So something that was sufficient for the Messenger of Allaah, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, and his khulafaa' is not sufficient for you?!" So the man refrained (from his call) and the Khaleefah, who was present there said: "May Allaah not suffice the one who is not satisfied by what they* found sufficient.""
[Lum`ah Al-I`tiqaad of Ibn Qudaamah Al-Maqdisee]​

*Meaning the Messenger and his Khulafaa'. To a greater extent one could include the companions and/or the salaf.

Anyway, I hope this helps. When we develop and understanding of sunnah and bid`ah in general, with proof, often we can discern stray and foreign practices in Islaam, and have something to challenge them with. Allaah knows best, I'm sure there's a great deal more worthy of being said in this issue.

Was-salaam

 

[nabeelahmad18]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Research on bid’ah and shirk in Detailed

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7475

Wasalaam

 

[Almeftah]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

dear brothers and sister..

At the last Hajj of his Prophet peace be upon him, Allah Tala said: This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islâm as your religion. But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin (such can eat these above mentioned meats), then surely, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Quran5:3)

And even though there have been some changes done by Sahabah of the prophet Peace Be Upon them all, And many of the Khalifats afterwards, It was all made by their own understanding to the teaching of Islam and the teaching of our Prophet Peace Be Upon Him.

And despite of those differences in the ways of understanding, We can not say that they were wrong, since they were true Arabs who had the ability to understand the scripts of Quran and Hadith better than modern Ulamah and Scholars.

These types of differences were to offer choices for the Muslim man/woman of which makes it easier to practice Islam where it way be almost impossible for one to commit to certain teachings.

The propblem is when some ignorant men misunderstood a certain script and make fatwah based on misunderstanding, OR creat a Fatwah only because it goes with what they please, And that makes it Bida'ah.

It is the nature of humans to sin, for we are weak against our desires and most of us lack the knowledge no matter how well informed, thats how we were created. But for one to make Bida'ah, is like Challenging the will of Allah, Insulting His Powers and all knowledge, And denying His teachings.

We can only warship Allah they HE wants us to, Not the way we please.

(Quran 5) And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Īsā (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen). (116) "Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allâh) did command me to say: 'Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world). (117)

This is almost what Shia (And all people of Bida'ah) are doing, little by little they became warshippers of Ali and his sons without even knowing it.

The Sunni constitution of islam is perfect, And needs no changing. It provides everything we need in this life and in the hereafter. But it is the sick, weak, ignorant and infatuated people who are enslaved by their desires and passions, those are the ones who are willing to Tamper with what Allah has given us in order to fulfil the illusion of reaching false and temporary happiness this life offers us.

(Surat Al-Maeda 5) And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'ân) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures)[]. So judge among them by what Allâh has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allâh had willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so compete in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allâh; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ (48) And so judge (you O Muhammad SAW) among them by what Allâh has revealed and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad SAW) far away from some of that which Allâh has sent down to you. And if they turn away, then know that Allâh's Will is to punish them for some sins of theirs. And truly, most of men are Fâsiqûn (rebellious and disobedient to Allâh). (49) Do they then seek the judgement of (the days of) Ignorance?[] And who is better in judgement than Allâh for a people who have firm Faith. (50)

And Allah is all knowing.

 

[PARVEZ SHAHIDI]

:salam2:

So a little about my background. Since childhood, on certain days (Muharram, Prophet's birthday, Shabebaraat), my mom makes a certain food and my dad does the fatiha on it. This year, since I knew better, I tried sooo very hard to stop my parents from not doing this on Milad un Nabi, but I tried and tried and couldn't convince anyone. It broke my heart very much.

So what's the reasoning why not to do this??

Lol, please no arguing. Let's be peaceful here, inshallah. .

:salam2: sister,

Please do not get angry/frustrated with your parents. We can only try but HYDAYA comes from Allah SWT.

Some Bidahs have taken such deep roots in our society that it will be really difficult to remove them. But we will be rewarded for our efforts Insha-Allah.

When your parents were growing up , they did not have all the information you now have at your fingertip.

Please ask your parents politely which part of the Quran or Hadith they are following when they are doing Fathiha the way they are doing.

In the mean time please read and listen to different knowledgeable Shaykh and increase your knowledge.

Insha-Allah, Allah SWT will give you knowledge and patience to convince your relatives to move away form all Bidahs.

When you have time Please listen to the following khuba, if you have already not done so

http://islamactive.com/audio/talks/294

May Allah SWT forgive me if I have written something wrong.

 

[unitedmuslim_73]

shabebaraat-the misconception

salaam brother

i know the problem you must be facing but you misunderstand the situation completely. You are not being heard by your family because you are saying something contrary their belief...Your age doesnt matter, just because the topic is against their beliefs, you feel kept aside but remember our prophet (PBUH), he faced numerous problems in preaching islam and his sons ( Imam Hassan, Hussein, AL jaffar, Muhassan, Ali ....) peace be upon them, was assasinated because they supported the truth. So you dont have the right to abondon because you have the responsibility to save your family from the fire of hell.

And i know well about shabebaraat. This is bidaah, infact its name indicate clearly to you that this is indian origin. Shab-e-baraat, this is an indian word and this had been invented 7 century after the departure of our prophet.

 

[ahmed_indian]

,

1. its a general thinking that if you are young you could be good in science, business but not in religion. better to let them listen to sheikhs and ulama who can have better impact.

2. they have thought innovations as Islam, so when you tell them to leave bidah, it seems to them as if you are telling them to leave Islam:astag:

3. its hard to change in old age when since childhood they believed wht they believed.

4. keep doing reformation but make Dua because it is Allah WHo guides.

 

[weakslave]

Jaza Allaahu Khairan everyone here who has provided sound information.

There is one general rule in Islaam one can apply to all situations, and it really makes things very easy:

Worldly things are all lawful, except that which we have been told to avoid (all things haraam).

Everything pertaining to religion (such as dua/time of dua, prayers, and anything else that a person believes will bring them closer to Allaah) is haraam unless there is clear evidence for it in the Quraan and Sunnah.

You see, Allaah doesn't want us to worship Him the way we want, it is the way He wants and that is the only way He will accept. Imagine some believe they know better than Allaah how He should be worshipped! SubhanaAllaahi wa-bihamdih, subhanaAllaahi al'atheem.

 

[arzafar]

:salam2:

i came across the following hadith (transaltion) in Sahih muslim.
Book 034, Number 6466:

Jarir b. Abdullah reported that some desert Arabs clad in woollen clothes came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). He saw them in sad plight as they had been hard pressed by need. He (the Holy Prophet) exhorted people to give charity, but they showed some reluctance until (signs) of anger could be seen on his face. Then a person from the Ansar came with a purse containing silver. Then came another person and then other persons followed them in succession until signs of happiness could be seen on his (sacred) face. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He who introduced some good practice in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who introduced some evil practice in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.

Isn't that biddah?

 

[BrotherInIslam7]

:salam2:

The above Hadith talks about giving in charity which is a noble act. Therefore, if someone started a charitable initiative and people followed him and continued on with his initiative, the person who initiated it would still get the reward without it being diminished.

I think there are some issues with regards to translation of this Hadeeth from Arabic to English. Maybe you can read the Arabic version of the Hadeeth and ask someone well-versed in Arabic if it translates as 'good practice' or something else.


Also, Bida'ah constitutes innovations that are introduced in matters of worshipping Allah.

1. Definition of bid’ah.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “According to sharee’ah, the definition is ‘Worshipping Allaah in ways that Allaah has not prescribed.’ If you wish you may say, ‘Worshipping Allaah in ways that are not those of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his rightly guided successors (al-khulafaa’ al-raashidoon).’”

Please read the link mentioned above in this thread :-
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7475

I hope my explanation was of some help.

Wasalaamalaikum waa rahmatullahi

 

[arzafar]

:salam2:

The above Hadith talks about giving in charity which is a noble act. Therefore, if someone started a charitable initiative and people followed him and continued on with his initiative, the person who initiated it would still get the reward without it being diminished.

I think there are some issues with regards to translation of this Hadeeth from Arabic to English. Maybe you can read the Arabic version of the Hadeeth and ask someone well-versed in Arabic if it translates as 'good practice' or something else.


Also, Bida'ah constitutes innovations that are introduced in matters of worshipping Allah.



Please read the link mentioned above in this thread :-
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7475

I hope my explanation was of some help.

Wasalaamalaikum waa rahmatullahi

but zakah is a form of worship too i think.
ill wait for somebody else to answer this.