What is 786?
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sachin4islam
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Assalam Alaikum: I never grasped meaning of ''786". In my city almost 90% of Muslim owned shops,houses,vehicles,........etc put this label of ''786". Some Muslims write 786/110. The latest label trend in my city amongst Muslims is KGN (Khawaja Gharib Nawaz).
Regards.
Regards.
:salam2:
You are right. It is not significant.
However some misled people do believe that it is of high virtue as the alphabets of 'Bismillahi arrahmani arraheem' add up to 786. Numerology is not from Islam in any way or manner.
It is so unfortunate that some people even write '786' on pages of books instead of using the Basmalah. It is a needless innovation and makes little of no sense. If each alphabet were assigned different numbers in ascending order, they would add up to more than 786. So would it make this new number 'holy' or 'significant' as well ?
You have most likely come across a deviant website about Islam where you encountered such things written about '786'.
May Allah protect us from such matters. Ameen
Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
sachin4islam
Junior Member
Assalam Alaikum:
BTW,now a days a new label of No.24 is prefixed to those Muslims who directly adhere to Sunnah of Muhammad (SAW).
Hope ''BrotherInIslam7'' shed a light on this innovation also.
Regards.
BTW,now a days a new label of No.24 is prefixed to those Muslims who directly adhere to Sunnah of Muhammad (SAW).
Hope ''BrotherInIslam7'' shed a light on this innovation also.
Regards.
:salam2:
Astagfirullah.. This Khawaja Ghareeb Nawaz was neither able to benefit humans nor any other makhluuq while alive, so how can he benefit or provide anything to any human now when he is in his grave ? :astag:
La Hawla Wa La Quwata Illa Billah !.. I beg Allah azz zawajal to remove such believes & practices of Shirk & Kufr from our lands. Ameen..
Allah is Our Sole Provider and Our Sole Sustainer..
Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
There is no basis for such numerological summation in our religion from the Quran and Sunnah. People associating themselves with such numbers, symbols etc are doing it out of their own ignorance, failing to recognize that there is nothing in the deen regarding 786 or 24 or any such numerological findings. It is prohibited to associate such things with our deen. Our deen which is based on 'revelation' (wahee) and not on desires and such strange innovations.
It just shows how far people have become from knowledge of Quran and Sunnah, easily misled and misguided by such petty things. Allahu Musta'an.
Wasalaaamalaykum
alf2
Islam is a way of life
Lol, Jazakallah khair as always for your information.
It wasnt really a website, it was a tank top in an "Islamic Clothing" section and said "786 - MUSLIM"
Then upon Googling I found a confusing site about how this "miracle" was discovered with numerology and bismillah. And I was like.."Huh? Still confused.. GO, GO TTI!"
sachin4islam
Junior Member
Assalam Alaikum: Br.
It really pains being witness to innovations by our own brothers in Islam. I left far far behind these anthropological contaminations in the religion. But those blessed with Muslim parenthood, so much astray,May Allah show them path to pure Islam of Muhammad (SAW)
Regards.
saifkhan
abd-Allah
salam alaikum warahamtu-llah
subhan Allah.
these coding and numerology is from Taweez or amulets or talisman.
I've seen some amulets/taweez in coding, where they have even encoded surah, ayatul kursi(wa-llahu a'lam these are surah or something else, coz I'm not a decoder) and top of that coding, there is written '786' so called bilmi-llah
astaghfir Allah, la haula wala quwwata illa bi-llah
It is something greater than innovation, some people deliberately do and some just use unknowingly.
stay away from these khutwatush shaytan.
may Allah save us from innovations and these things
wa alaikum salam
PS: you can even search for google image, you'll find some example, I stated above.
subhan Allah.
these coding and numerology is from Taweez or amulets or talisman.
I've seen some amulets/taweez in coding, where they have even encoded surah, ayatul kursi(wa-llahu a'lam these are surah or something else, coz I'm not a decoder) and top of that coding, there is written '786' so called bilmi-llah
astaghfir Allah, la haula wala quwwata illa bi-llah
It is something greater than innovation, some people deliberately do and some just use unknowingly.
stay away from these khutwatush shaytan.
may Allah save us from innovations and these things
wa alaikum salam
PS: you can even search for google image, you'll find some example, I stated above.
sachin4islam
Junior Member
Assalam Alaikum: Dear Saif.
Few months back son of a familiar Muslim to me was hospitalized for suffering from Guillain-Barre syndrome. The son was totally bed ridden as muscular movements were nearly paralyzed.
One day some Muslimah came for the visit to the patient. One of them brought with her a Taweez and tried to hang it around the neck of the patient. Seeing this the Christian nurse present in the room at once said:No Tabeez No Tabeez ,pray only God: Isn't it amazing those blessed with Islam so ignorant that they need to be reminded of Tawheed.
Regards.
Tabassum07
Smile for Allah
:salam2:
I have never been able to make any sense of this weird innovation - I remember asking my relatives what it meant when I was little, and the way everyone's face lit up and they said it's a code for Bismillah, and then when I said I didn't understand, they said they weren't sure, but that's how it is. Needless to say, I never grasped what it meant - but I have seen people standing in line at the bank demanding that they get a bill/note which has the number 786 on it. And if they get that particular note/bill what that particular number, they think its good luck! Astaghfirullah, astaghfirullah, astaghfirullah. Alhamdulillah that Allah guided me to the truth - I pretty much had to unlearn everything that was taught to me when I was little. <frown>
I have never been able to make any sense of this weird innovation - I remember asking my relatives what it meant when I was little, and the way everyone's face lit up and they said it's a code for Bismillah, and then when I said I didn't understand, they said they weren't sure, but that's how it is. Needless to say, I never grasped what it meant - but I have seen people standing in line at the bank demanding that they get a bill/note which has the number 786 on it. And if they get that particular note/bill what that particular number, they think its good luck! Astaghfirullah, astaghfirullah, astaghfirullah. Alhamdulillah that Allah guided me to the truth - I pretty much had to unlearn everything that was taught to me when I was little. <frown>
As-salaamu `alaykum
It is totally stupid. To learn about the origins of this, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad_numerals.
The abjad numeric system was a way of counting and doing sums prior to the invention of Arabic numerals, by assigning different numerical values to letters. The Basmalah (i.e
) happens to add uo to 786 according to this system... So let's add a bit of sense to the picture. All it means is that the Basmalah, if used to represent a number, then it would represent 786. But that would be foolish to use because the easiest way to achieve 786 would be (ذ ف و), which is a great deal shorter I'm sure you'd agree.
How that somehow makes 786 a holy number is beyond me. What's sad is that its reached a point where it's almost like a means of seeking blessing. Change your mobile phone pin to 0786 and you won't get jacked, likewise your briefcase! On the contrary, here in the UK we could always guess another Pakistanis pin number... Yes, it was 0786 (or 0000 lol). What the people don't seem to realise is that one could construe a totally blasphemous term that also adds up to 786 in the abjad system. What do you do them? 786 doesn't become a holy number anymore does it?
It is totally stupid. To learn about the origins of this, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad_numerals.
The abjad numeric system was a way of counting and doing sums prior to the invention of Arabic numerals, by assigning different numerical values to letters. The Basmalah (i.e
) happens to add uo to 786 according to this system... So let's add a bit of sense to the picture. All it means is that the Basmalah, if used to represent a number, then it would represent 786. But that would be foolish to use because the easiest way to achieve 786 would be (ذ ف و), which is a great deal shorter I'm sure you'd agree.How that somehow makes 786 a holy number is beyond me. What's sad is that its reached a point where it's almost like a means of seeking blessing. Change your mobile phone pin to 0786 and you won't get jacked, likewise your briefcase! On the contrary, here in the UK we could always guess another Pakistanis pin number... Yes, it was 0786 (or 0000 lol). What the people don't seem to realise is that one could construe a totally blasphemous term that also adds up to 786 in the abjad system. What do you do them? 786 doesn't become a holy number anymore does it?
Salaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi,
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abu'muhammad
Junior Member
Assalaamu alaykum,
The thread has it all, however let me write as what i have read in this regard --
The adhkaars and the hamd-sanaa have to be read or spoken as to what is the right guidance for it. In your mentioned question, the one who will speak or read as no matter how many times 786, has no meaning other than that as repeating a number ! And do not make up the act of sawaab or ajr. But contrarily, as alhamdulillah the one who says the ‘bismillah….’ then has it all.
The abbreviated transformation into a numerical value for adhkaar, dua or hamd-sana has no support in Islaam. The same consideration is for the number of ayats in quraan, the number of surahs and the mention of number 7. The misguidance is even prevalent of viewing those numbers as holding some owe and reverence! unfortuantely.
The scholarly outlook is not believing such contexts and moulding them the other way they lose their meaning, the way etc.
May Allaah reward you sister Alf for puttng up the question. BarakAllaahu feek.
And From Islamqa as under...
Salam
What does the number 786 mean. Please be detialed. I heard it does not mean Bimillah and I would like to know why not..
Salam
The number 786 means 786 and nothing more !
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/259/number 786
The thread has it all, however let me write as what i have read in this regard --
The adhkaars and the hamd-sanaa have to be read or spoken as to what is the right guidance for it. In your mentioned question, the one who will speak or read as no matter how many times 786, has no meaning other than that as repeating a number ! And do not make up the act of sawaab or ajr. But contrarily, as alhamdulillah the one who says the ‘bismillah….’ then has it all.
The abbreviated transformation into a numerical value for adhkaar, dua or hamd-sana has no support in Islaam. The same consideration is for the number of ayats in quraan, the number of surahs and the mention of number 7. The misguidance is even prevalent of viewing those numbers as holding some owe and reverence! unfortuantely.
The scholarly outlook is not believing such contexts and moulding them the other way they lose their meaning, the way etc.
May Allaah reward you sister Alf for puttng up the question. BarakAllaahu feek.
And From Islamqa as under...
The number 786 means 786 and nothing more
Salam
What does the number 786 mean. Please be detialed. I heard it does not mean Bimillah and I would like to know why not..
Salam
The number 786 means 786 and nothing more !
When Allah or His messenger want to teach us something, they do so in the clearest way, far from puzzles and mystery numbers. All the efforts made by some Muslims to count letters and relate them to numbers are nothing but a waste of time. Sometimes they do so with good intention to show that our deen is great. Indeed our deen is great, and not in need of such erroneous approaches