What makes a shiekh a shiekh?

Isra

aka Tree2008
As salamo alaikome

Inshallah all of my brothers and sisters here at TTI are in good health and Iman.

I have been curious for some time now about this question. I mean what qualifications does a person need to become a shiekh? Who is more qualified a shiekh or a scholor? Who is more qualified an Imam or a shiekh?

Inshallah you can cure my confusion on this topic. Thanks

wa salam
 

twas19

Junior Member
Wa alaykum salam ,if you are complete qualified individual having all sorts of knowledge regarding Islam like Quran and Hadith than you are entitled scholar i dont think so that both terms have any much difference .I hope it satisfies your question
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Wa Alaykum Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,

In Arab culture, a Shaykh is any man over age of 40. In the Islamic sense, a Shaykh is a learned Muslim scholar.

Unfortunately there is a great deal of ignorance and misconceptions about who exactly is a Shaykh. - There are many "celebrities" who come on the various Islamic Satellite TV channels, on Youtube and websites and who either openly use the label Shaykh or let others call them that, whereas in reality they may not even be students of knowledge and may spread incorrect ideas or have weak understanding of the Deen.

Ibn Mas'ûd - Radiallâhu 'anhu - said: "You are in a time whose Scholars are many and its speakers are few. After you will come a time whose Scholars are few and its speakers are many." [related by at-Tabaranî in al-Kabîr (8066) and al-Bukhârî in Adab al-Mufrad (789) and declared to be Sahîh (authentic) by al-Hâfidh Ibn Hajr in Fath al-Bârî (10/510) ]

Also from The Piece of Advise 'Ali Radiallâhu 'anhu gave to Kumail ibn Ziyâd

"The people are of three classes:

The righteous Scholar, the student of Knowledge being upon the path of salvation and the confused rabble who follow everyone who calls out - bending along with every wind - they are not enlightened by the light of Knowledge, nor do they lean upon a firm support." [Part of a lengthy piece of advice - as is reported by Abû Nu'aym al-Asbahânî in Hilyatul-Awliyâ (1/79-80).]


The ascribing of titles is dangerous because those who really deserve them, who really are oceans of knowledge and wisdom have their words and explanations compared and contrasted with those people who are not scholars. The people of knowledge are not of equal levels, some have much more knowledge than others. Some have permission to teach and give fatawa, whilst others do not.

This does not mean you should not respect your Imam or any person explaining Islam. But, to be careful and know who you are taking your knowledge from.

Here are some previous threads which I hope will help you to learn more about who we should take our knowledge of the Deen from.

Why Manhaj? (methodology) By Shaykh Saalih bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25431

"The Scholars are those who have sat and studied with ulema of Ahlus-Sunnah for many years. They are those who derive their Islam from the clearest of sources and who are known by the scholars and given permission to teach from them. Even, a person can not claim to be student of a Shaykh unless he is actually said by the Shaykh to be his student. We have unfortunately, some people especially in the west who make these claims, but in reality, their manhaj is not same as those they claim to be students of and certainly, are far from that which came from prrevious generations of Muslims."

Becoming a Scholar
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6769

The Prophet said:, “The virtue of the scholar to a worshipper (Aabid) is similar to the virtue of the moon when it is full to the rest of the stars. And verily the scholars are the inheritors of the Prophets. Verily the Prophets did not leave behind dirhams and deenars, but rather they left behind knowledge. Thus whoever takes it, takes it as a bountiful share.” – Authentic, narrated by Abu Dawood, tirmidhi, and Ibn Majah.

List of some of the Scholars and Imams of Past till the Present Day
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25434
 

Idris16

Junior Member
Bismillâh

Can anyone agree with me that it would be better if someone called himself ''Student of Knowledge'' before rushing to the title ''Shaykh''?

Many people think that ''Student of Knowledge'' simply means ''Student'', which is wrong.
 

Isra

aka Tree2008
Jazakallah khairan brother Mabsoot for the information you posted for me to read. May Allah reward you for taking the time to look up the other threads with the information. Ameen.

I have been curious about this subject for some time now and when I asked a few people nobody seems to really know the answer except to say it is a person with much knowledge of Islam. Well that could just about be anyone who reads so that didnt make much sense to me! Also in my own studying of Islam I have come across more than a little wrong information even in some books that I have read and later found to have incorrect information. Islam is not a religion to be taken lightly and forgotten later. I have come to realize it is much more complicated than at first glance but each new discovery in it makes me realize just how beautiful and perfect is this our religion.......Islam! Amhamdulillah! Its amazing to learn that as much as I THINK I know about Islam there is still SO MUCH to know! It brings joy to my life to discover more each day! Allahu Akbar!!!! :tti_sister:

wa salam
 
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